The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I have just decided. I am going to make the game mega interesting by going into the editor and making every player, manager and backroom staff, unemployed/Free agents. So there will be a free for all for every club. It going to be interesting on who goes where. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnio_422 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Sounds interesting, keep us updated. Be interesting to see the sort of contracts as well - everyone needs a club but so much competition between clubs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Judging by how many players are in FM, that may take you until FM13 is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 lol you can do group changes in the editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyscarab Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Sounds fascinating Welsh Lad. Keep us up to date Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusano Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Judging by how many players are in FM, that may take you until FM13 is released. People > Search without any characters inputted > Shift + Click All > Player Information > Contract > None It's that easy. I kinda wanna do it considering how easy it would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 People > Search without any characters inputted > Shift + Click All > Player Information > Contract > NoneIt's that easy. I kinda wanna do it considering how easy it would be. I don't think it will be that easy as the editor limits the number of search results it can return in an attempt to stop the type of search you describe taking about 10 minutes. Will have to repeat the action quite a large number of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusano Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I just noticed only 500 at a time. The most players you can have in a game is about 130,000. Good luck loading the players about 2600 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I just noticed only 500 at a time. The most players you can have in a game is about 130,000. Good luck loading the players about 2600 times. Then only do it for the players in Europe, 60,000 or so players. Going on one search every minute it is about 2 hours work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Got a way round the limitations. I'll be doing it country by country, so I have a list now of all 251 countries, I think a few wont have people but had to write them all down so I don't miss anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Then only do it for the players in Europe, 60,000 or so players. Going on one search every minute it is about 2 hours work. There is over 300,000 people in FM, don't know how many are agents, but every manager, assistant, coach, physio, scout, and player will be made unattached. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusano Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Got a way round the limitations. I'll be doing it country by country, so I have a list now of all 251 countries, I think a few wont have people but had to write them all down so I don't miss anyone. either way, some countries still have thousands of players. Divide the number of players for a country by 500, and then multiply that by 251 countries would still add up to around 2600. Actually more considering staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankylars Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Quite an endeavor. Keep us updated. If you find that doing everyone takes too long, perhaps you could just release players/staff at the 100 richest clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Settings Max Records for Search = Unlimited No time at all doing it Thank you, thank you. *bows* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballManagerBlog Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This is gonna be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Worst thing is I just cant put in non-player for the backroom staff due to Chairman, Directors etc. so it is going to take slightly longer because I have to search the backroom staff for each separate role. Oh I should add all national jobs will be vacant, all loans cancelled and future transfers cancelled, if they aren't hard wired into the game but I'm leaving bans and injuries in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Don't forget to fix the results limit as outlined above to save some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raybouldinho Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Will be a good test of the AI's capability of squad creation and management, especially with youth players. Are you just going to holiday the game or actually manage a team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah, I already knew about the ability to change the search limits but the unlimited search is the same has unlimited text messages like where I have free unlimited texts as long has I don't send over 1000 in a month. There are 297,879 people register has players in the editor but it only displays the first 50,000. So, I will have to filter the search by either nationality or position depending on which works best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Will be a good test of the AI's capability of squad creation and management, especially with youth players.Are you just going to holiday the game or actually manage a team? Umm I haven't thought that far ahead yet. May just holiday for the sake to see how things turn out and then maybe start again and actually manage a team. I do know I will be turning of transfer budgets in the first window, Unticking Add players and staff to teams. It just a shame the game automatically gives every team U18s even when Add players is unticked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raybouldinho Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Turning off transfer budgets wont make any difference will it? As all the transfers will be free transfers? If turning off transfer budgets disables any transfers totally (I dont know I've never done it before) none of the teams will be able to sign anyone and wont have any players at all until the January transfer window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Turning off the transfers will stop the teams signing the U18s from other teams that the game automatically gives because that is hard coded in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 sounds like fun, enjoy the 600000 million unread emails per click Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawstraljan11 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Will you be uploading the database somewhere? I might be interested in trying this as a second save just for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah I'll post it in the Challenges when I'm finished sorting everything out. I've done all the staff just going through the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawstraljan11 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Great thanks buddy. Make sure to post here too so I don't miss it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Will do mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusano Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 you should create the england rules so that they don't allow free transfers outside of transfer window. then at new game, untick allow first window transfers. england with no players lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I've just been working through this myself and I think I found the easiest way. Filter it by age, so do it 1 year at a time. There don't seem to be more than 30,000 players at any age, so you can get each age on a single search. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 There was a free player database on an older FM but it failed massively. A lot of the big European sides signed less then 12 players Man Utd for example signed seven players. Hope it's different for FM12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusano Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 There was a free player database on an older FM but it failed massively. A lot of the big European sides signed less then 12 players Man Utd for example signed seven players. Hope it's different for FM12. Wouldn't it be interesting, though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlaGunna Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Great idea, Im waiting to see what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Wouldn't it be interesting, though? It was interesting to see Fiorentina sign Messi and a host of world class players and for a holiday game it would be good. The trouble is as a game to play it is way too easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laneo Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 You could do that on 09 by going on Tools or something couldn't you? I tried it once and, like AcidBurn said, most clubs signed about 10 players by the time the season started. I wasn't bothered cuz I was on a network game with my mate and, by the end of the first season, all clubs had full squads. As an aside John Terry refused to join any club at all - I even tried taking over as Chelsea and re-signing him just to make sure England still had their captain but he refused point blank and retired after a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptl93 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I hope you manage to do this. Would be very intresting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Here you go. Every single player and staff member (not including club boards, so only managers, assistants, coaches, scouts, physios), released on a free transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Just an update on how things are going... well slowly than anticipated, the Editor for some reason want to use up nearly all my Physical Memory, so when trying to group change players over about 1000 it take for ever to change. All the Staff have been made unemployed. I'm about half way through changing the players to freebies. Hopefully it wont take me to long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Here you go.Every single player and staff member (not including club boards, so only managers, assistants, coaches, scouts, physios), released on a free transfer. Cheers mackem. Like I said mine was going rather slowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Here you go.Every single player and staff member (not including club boards, so only managers, assistants, coaches, scouts, physios), released on a free transfer. Haven't bought FM12 yet as i have a lot of uni deadlines to meet over the next month (really bad timing!) But would the database work for FM11 so i can have a little experiment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulroney Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Has anyone played a game doing this yet then? I'm intrigued...sounds like Fantasy Football Manager lol. Would Ronaldo still demand £250k a week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich2086 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This should be interesting, keep us posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Haven't bought FM12 yet as i have a lot of uni deadlines to meet over the next month (really bad timing!)But would the database work for FM11 so i can have a little experiment? I don't know. Just give it a go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Megaupload link Another mirror for people that need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robilaz Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Lol this is mental, but hilarious. Love it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbVictory Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 It will all just be be wage based I imagine - highest bidder wins. Lucky agents, all their christmas'... Any screenies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blidly Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Fm12 or fm11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 OK I've been around here far too long to be asking such a noob question but where do I put this and how do I go about starting a game with this database? EDIT: Never mind, I worked it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football_Manager08 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Lol, it's kind of like Football Manager live.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampler Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 great! :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
perpetua Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 You might end up having a little trouble at the start since clubs have limited wage budgets set over their current budget in the db rather than the entire wage budget. So suppose the player salaries are 50 million and another 3 million Euro wage budget is entered in the db to give you 53 million Euro budget in the game. When you remove the players, the club's budget will probably be around 3 million Euro in the first season. So whichever team has the highest budget entered, will get ahead the furthest in the first year. Well, at least until January or so when clubs get bigger budgets due to earning lots of income and not having enough expenses. Worth a try anyway though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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