the edge Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 This is a great file! Thanks mackemforever With regards to the wage budgets, my first load of the game revealed quite unbalanced squads. But using FMRTE to mass edit the clubs' remaining wage budgets seems to have balanced things out and it doesn't take that long either. What you do is: 1 Create a new game and save it 2 Load FMRTE, press mass edit 3 Filter clubs by reputation (e.g. 8500 - 10000) 4 Enter e.g. 2000000 £ for remaining wage budget and apply 5 Save in FMRTE 6 Repeat steps 3-5 with varying reputations and values There will obviously still be some odd transfers, but much more acceptable/fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrosiemaisie Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 OK I've been around here far too long to be asking such a noob question but where do I put this and how do I go about starting a game with this database?EDIT: Never mind, I worked it out! I haven't found where to put the *.dbc file. Help please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I haven't found where to put the *.dbc file. Help please. Create a folder under C:\Users\<your username>\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football manager 2012 called "editor data" and put it in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I've had a go with this and there is a problem with the wage budgets. I started as Dortmund and I've got a €60k wage budget (total!) so I can't relly sign any decent players. I think what will happen is most players won't sign for clubs because no clubs can offer them a decent wage. I wonder if anything can be done about this either using the editor or FMRTE (that probably doesn't exist yet for FM12?) EDIT: I switched to Man City and I can offer €58k now so maybe Dortmund are just poor, or maybe only the very richest clubs will be able to sign players, not sure yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I've had a go with this and there is a problem with the wage budgets. I started as Dortmund and I've got a €60k wage budget (total!) so I can't relly sign any decent players. I think what will happen is most players won't sign for clubs because no clubs can offer them a decent wage. I wonder if anything can be done about this either using the editor or FMRTE (that probably doesn't exist yet for FM12?)EDIT: I switched to Man City and I can offer €58k now so maybe Dortmund are just poor, or maybe only the very richest clubs will be able to sign players, not sure yet See perpetua's post above. You might end up having a little trouble at the start since clubs have limited wage budgets set over their current budget in the db rather than the entire wage budget.So suppose the player salaries are 50 million and another 3 million Euro wage budget is entered in the db to give you 53 million Euro budget in the game. When you remove the players, the club's budget will probably be around 3 million Euro in the first season. So whichever team has the highest budget entered, will get ahead the furthest in the first year. Well, at least until January or so when clubs get bigger budgets due to earning lots of income and not having enough expenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile_paul Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Quality - Man Utd just appointed Steve McLaren as manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootoo22 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Can someone post a screenie of Crystal Palace's complete squad as a season begins with this edit on? I'd love to see what it would look like! ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm really tempted to have a go at this! How are people finding it so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrosiemaisie Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Create a folder under C:\Users\<your username>\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football manager 2012 called "editor data" and put it in there. Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Right I re-started with Ajax and things are going pretty well. Got a €500K wage budget so I'm trying to keep wages down to around €30k max so I'll have enough to go around! If you're going to have a go at this make sure you untick the "Add players to playable teams" checkbox. You can untick the "add key staff" as well if you want. I did but it's a bit of a pain because it means you start with no staff whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawstraljan11 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Lol awesome gotta try this. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Christian Gross new Chelsea manager lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seo1990 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Andre Villas-Boas in Sunderland manager on mine. Will create a thread with seasonal updates on signings, how teams do if anyone would be interested ? i'll be holidaying obviously will be pretty quick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Andre Villas-Boas in Sunderland manager on mine. Will create a thread with seasonal updates on signings, how teams do if anyone would be interested ? i'll be holidaying obviously will be pretty quick. As a Sunderland fan that is much better than the manager in my game which is Glenn Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seo1990 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 As a Sunderland fan that is much better than the manager in my game which is Glenn Roeder. Haha Roeder's at WBA on mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I did this on FM10, wasn't as fun as it sounds as no sod signed any players apart from me, I got to the start of the first season and remember Man Utd signing 3 goalkeepers and that was it. I stopped playing and holidayed it for a couple of seasons, and still alot of clubs didn't have a full XI and had to use greyed players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I did this on FM10, wasn't as fun as it sounds as no sod signed any players apart from me, I got to the start of the first season and remember Man Utd signing 3 goalkeepers and that was it.I stopped playing and holidayed it for a couple of seasons, and still alot of clubs didn't have a full XI and had to use greyed players I tried it on FM11 and it was a similar story, however it looks a lot better in this version I'm only part way through August and most clubs that I've looked at are well on the way to having decent squads. I'll have a proper look when the transfer window closes and post some info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I did this on FM10, wasn't as fun as it sounds as no sod signed any players apart from me, I got to the start of the first season and remember Man Utd signing 3 goalkeepers and that was it.I stopped playing and holidayed it for a couple of seasons, and still alot of clubs didn't have a full XI and had to use greyed players The AI does seem much better at squad building in this game. What I did when I was testing this database was as follows: Join the team I wanted to play as. Build up my own squad. Resign. Holiday for a season to give the AI a chance to fill out their squads. Retire & create a new manager to take over the club I was at to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi2 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Does this work with stream based FM12? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafino Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Does this work with stream based FM12? Yes it does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi2 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yes it does Probably should have been more specific, I mean using the data base uploaded a couple of post above? or if you mean that, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootoo22 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This is a great file! Thanks mackemforeverWith regards to the wage budgets, my first load of the game revealed quite unbalanced squads. But using FMRTE to mass edit the clubs' remaining wage budgets seems to have balanced things out and it doesn't take that long either. What you do is: 1 Create a new game and save it 2 Load FMRTE, press mass edit 3 Filter clubs by reputation (e.g. 8500 - 10000) 4 Enter e.g. 2000000 £ for remaining wage budget and apply 5 Save in FMRTE 6 Repeat steps 3-5 with varying reputations and values There will obviously still be some odd transfers, but much more acceptable/fun I'm having trouble with this. I've followed all the steps but it isn't applying it in-game. Am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Right the transfer window has just closed in the first season in my game and it looks as though the AI squad building is much improved. Lets have a look at some squads then: Note I have not edited anything in FMRTE. Wage budgets are as they are set by the game. Ajax Amsterdam (me) Feijenoord Rotterdam PSV Eindhoven Bayern Munich Arsenal Man Utd Man City Chelsea Liverpool Real Madrid Barcelona Internazionale Milan Lyon Here are listings of European clubs and their new managers! Belgium England France Germany Italy Netherlands Portugal Spain If anyone wants me to post a particular squad list or find out where a particular player/manager has gone just let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaestro Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Where did Messi go?? Can't see him at any of those clubs?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipo2525 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Milan's squad is looking pretty impressive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield Sunday Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Some of those squads look fantastic. I think the AI has been tweaked in the right direction on this one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Apart from the fact that Real have signed Abidal, Iniesta and Keita... it's just never gonna happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Right the thing with Messi, and a lot of other big name players is they haven't found new clubs yet. I think this is related to the wage budget issue (i.e. clubs cannot, or will not, offer the massive wages that they ask for). If you look at Man Utd for example, their highest paid player is on €29k per week, Man City's is on €58k. Messi et al are asking for 80-90k+ so it looks like most of the new managers are sticking to quite strict wage structures. Having said that, Iniesta is on over €200k a week at Madrid so I'm not sure. There are tons of good players still without clubs, I've listed some of them here: Iker Casillas Samuel Eto'o Lukas Podolski Rafa van der Vaart Roque Santa Cruz Kolo & Yaya Touré Wesley Sneijder Zlatan Ibrahimovic Carlos Tevez Nemanja Vidic The list goes on. It'll be interesting to see how this develops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryzymillzy84 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 can you post the Hartlepool United squad please? Also whos the manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrosiemaisie Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Interesting in Robzilla's experiment that Man Utd resign Diego Forlan! Did he do any better this time around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Any chance of a screenshot of Sunderlands squad please. Also, Villas-Boas kept going to Sunderland when I was testing this too. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 can you post the Hartlepool United squad please? Also whos the manager? Sorry I'm only running the top division in eight countries: England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Belgium, Portugal. No details on lower league clubs I'm afraid. They have no manager. Interesting in Robzilla's experiment that Man Utd resign Diego Forlan!Did he do any better this time around? He's doing OK. Not a first-team regular but has made 5 appearances so far (6th October) and has 3 goals, 1 assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Any chance of a screenshot of Sunderlands squad please.Also, Villas-Boas kept going to Sunderland when I was testing this too. Weird. Sunderland look like they've been hampered by the wage budget. Only managed to sign a few players, and on low wages: Sunderland Squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribster Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 is it a trend teams building grom gk -> def -> mid -> forwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizza Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Strange that Joe Hart's last club shows as Shrewsbury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield Sunday Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I saw that on a couple of players. As the players have all been made free - no record of their current RL club exists in the database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Strange that Joe Hart's last club shows as Shrewsbury? Yeah, I just noticed Ian Bennett's says Sheffield United... the league's right, even the shire although not the county is right... but the club should be Huddersfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the edge Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm having trouble with this. I've followed all the steps but it isn't applying it in-game. Am I missing something? It's hard to tell, I feel I've listed the steps as I've done it. But I'm a novice at FMRTE, so it took me a bit of trying to figure it out as well. At least you can always reload the game and start over. How can you see that it's not working? Are you searching for the clubs in FMRTE afterwards and see their old "Remaining Wage Budget"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase19 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 quite interesting lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the edge Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Right the thing with Messi, and a lot of other big name players is they haven't found new clubs yet. I think this is related to the wage budget issue (i.e. clubs cannot, or will not, offer the massive wages that they ask for). If you look at Man Utd for example, their highest paid player is on €29k per week, Man City's is on €58k. Messi et al are asking for 80-90k+ so it looks like most of the new managers are sticking to quite strict wage structures.Having said that, Iniesta is on over €200k a week at Madrid so I'm not sure. The proper way to set up this file would be to remove all the "Remaining Wage Budget" settings from the database. If I search for major clubs (rep over 8500) in the official editor, Real Madrid, Milan, Inter and Juventus don't have this setting enabled at all, meaning that in a new game without any players the wage budget as a whole is done properly. With all the others, the wage budget ~ remaining budget. It may be tweaked a bit by the AI but it's still a limitation, which corresponds to the things you've seen on your save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootoo22 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 @the edge - I'm looking at my club (Crystal Palace's) weekly wage budget afterward and it still says £1,080. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Inter have signed Messi, a snip at €105k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the edge Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 @the edge - I'm looking at my club (Crystal Palace's) weekly wage budget afterward and it still says £1,080. Are Crystal Palace in the reputation range that you're trying to edit? Anyway, I'll try to do it in a more detailed manner This is from my memory. 1 Create a new game and save it 2 In FMRTE, Press Load Game (do a search for clubs with a certain reputation first and look at some just to see what the existing budget is like for comparison) 3 Press mass edit -> a pop-up will come 4 Press "Press me to filter" -> a 2nd pop-up will come 5 Do a search just like any, for instance set reputation between 8500 - 10000 6 Now you're back at the 1st popup and to the bottom right it says something like "Filtered (8 clubs)" 7 Now go to the club finances, don't edit anything else and in the Remaining Wage Budget insert an amount, e.g. 2500000 £ 8 Press Apply 9 Press Save in the main FMRTE window. (do a normal search for clubs with a reputation between 8500 and 10000 and look at some to verify they have the same Remaining Wage Budget) 11 Repeat steps 3-9 with varying reputations and values Hope it helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 @ Robzilla, could you post a screenie of the Norwich squad please mate? Glad to see the AI is doing a better job of squad building on this one, may have a crack at this myself at some point then, as I was disappointed that it wouldn't work properly in FM10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Messi signed for Valencia on my game and is on 60k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 @ Robzilla, could you post a screenie of the Norwich squad please mate? Glad to see the AI is doing a better job of squad building on this one, may have a crack at this myself at some point then, as I was disappointed that it wouldn't work properly in FM10. Norwich Squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJDD Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 how is one supposed to play a year with a squad of only 15 players or so?? are the squads bigger with the given FMRTE routine? can anyone post a database where this routine has already been applied? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the edge Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 how is one supposed to play a year with a squad of only 15 players or so??are the squads bigger with the given FMRTE routine? can anyone post a database where this routine has already been applied? I'm working on it at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This has worked better on FM12 than it did last time I tried it. Most Spanish sides have squads of well over 20 players, English between 15 and 20, German between 17 and 25, Italian 20 plus, Turkey at least 22, Holland between 17 and 25, Ukraine 20-25, Russia is the worst they only have around 10 players the rest are grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Norwich Squad Cheers mate, looks like we are getting relegated then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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