Coldberg Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 It's still a 6 point swing though in the games between us. Comparing results against the bottom sides doesn't show a definitive picture either because it depends on the time of season a team played them (United might've already won the league, they may have been relegated etc). United have consistently averaged well over 2 points a game against teams in the bottom half each season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Man Utd do it every season duh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 It's still a 6 point swing though in the games between us.Comparing results against the bottom sides doesn't show a definitive picture either because it depends on the time of season a team played them (United might've already won the league, they may have been relegated etc). United have consistently averaged well over 2 points a game against teams in the bottom half each season though. It doesnt matter what the swing is. Apart from twice a season. If you beat us twice, you arent 12 points clear of us you are only 6. Of course there are 6 less points for us to play for to catch you up, but the importance of that foregone 6 points is variable depending on the number of games gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Can pretty much that argument against why you got so many this season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yes but I was saying that if the results had been opposite this season (i.e. United win both) then that's a 12 point swing. Of course it's all if's & but's. In one of my (much) earlier posts I was pointing out that the reason the gap was smaller this season was mainly down to results against the other big 3. Am I right in thinking if you had lost one of the games against Chelsea then they would've finished second? Just shows how much of an affect the big games can have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Ive already said that the stats are pretty much meaningless anyway. Im just trying to convince Coldberg of the same. Doesnt matter where you get your points from, as long as you get more of them than everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkeat Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'm not sure what praise I gave you on otf2 or what your username there is, but I wouldn't care if fernando torres had made that post it'd still be twattish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 A moran? That really is special yes, you are a book store owning drunk! that is what i was implying...honest. anyway, how about addressing the rest of the post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 There's nothing to address? I don't think you'll get 14/18 next season which means you'll be further back unless you improve 3 or 4 other results on this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 That depends massively on you gaining as many points against lower opposition as you did this season, but, there's no evidence to suggest you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Despite all the previous seasons where we've consistently gotten over 2 points a game against the lower teams? I think i've passed go a fair few tmes, where do I collect my £200? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Football365 reporting that liverpool and man city have both agreed to pay 25m for tevez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I reckon he'd come to us over City, unless they offered a ridulous (sp) amount of money, which they most likely will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 For the sake of argument you have to go back to 04/05 to find us with less than 2.00pts a game. Whether you consistently get over 2 points a game or not you have to admit that getting as many as you did this season is an anomoly. Much like our 14/18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxCatxx Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Football365 reporting that liverpool and man city have both agreed to pay 25m for tevez. Liverpool echo says we haven't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Tevez is a good player and be nice to get him and dissapoint the man utd fans but for £25 million dont know if I rather go for a more natrual wide man. What do you guys make of our finances which has been released, is it better than you thought or worse and £84 million in debt do you think that is a lot or quite small compared to Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7-MAN Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'm torn between Tevez and Silva. Tevez because he's proven, Silva because he looks to be alot more like what we actually need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 With the sale of some squad players I reckon we'll end up with both Tevez and Silva. I think the question is over whether we'll get Gareth Barry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I cant see them giving Rafa nothing at all, he's got to have something to work with without selling players. And if that something is the 7m we got from the Keane sale, then thats probably what we're getting Barry with. If we go for Barry that is. Question though, would you take Silva/Tevez and Barry for Alonso? I would (based on us getting about 20m for Alonso, and as i said earlier for Barry) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 for the love of god bell use your special powers & ban coldberg from this thread please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Not sure if it's been posted but Nando got married earlier this week. Sorry lads. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/187434-fernando-torres-secret-marriage-shock-ceremony-is-not-in-ok-magazine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Ah jesus christ, I thought we had signed someone when I saw we had moved pages Coldberg, I would suggest its more likely that we will win those drawn games against lesser teams next season than it is likely we drop points v yourselves. During those drawn games we were much the better side and deserved to win, whilst against you lot we gave you a goal start twice and still battered you twice. You weren't unlucky to lose against us on either occasion as you were outplayed both times, so the likelihood of this scenario repeating itself next season is MORE likely than it is we draw at home to Stoke, Fulham, Hull etc again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 whoever was asking - eider would get plenty of games, probably looking at a similar amount to yossi got this year, maybe a bit less but im sure enough to keep him happy. wouldn't be surprised to see him pushed out left though. btw there hasn't actually been any rumours, i just saw he is probably leaving and asked in here if anyone else would like him here. can understand people not wanting him for his past though.ugh, one look at those chelsea players line up and i just can't bring myself to support them. come on 0-0 with an extra time everton winner. The thing is, signing Eidur would distrupt the core of our squad, seeing as Gerrard, Carra and Xabi hate him. Football365 reporting that liverpool and man city have both agreed to pay 25m for tevez. I think he will only come if Xabi leaves tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Lewis - have you got LFC TV on Setanta? Right now Rafa is doing a review of this season and was asked about whether Alonso will be staying or not. His reponse was along the lines of: "I want to make it very clear that we DO NOT want to sell Xabi, and we do NOT need to sell him to raise money. He has been very good for us and is an important part of the team" Xabi is going nowhere - FACT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Guys you watching the Rafa season review? Rafa says Alonso does not need to be sold to fun for other players, talks are ongoing with his agent. Rafa also talked about Babel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Lewis - have you got LFC TV on Setanta? Right now Rafa is doing a review of this season and was asked about whether Alonso will be staying or not. His reponse was along the lines of:"I want to make it very clear that we DO NOT want to sell Xabi, and we do NOT need to sell him to raise money. He has been very good for us and is an important part of the team" Xabi is going nowhere - FACT Rafa does not want to sell Alonso but all this talk with the agent makes you wonder if it is Alonso who wants to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Has he himself said anything about this whole thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Rafa does not want to sell Alonso but all this talk with the agent makes you wonder if it is Alonso who wants to leave. Xabi was in the press a couple of weeks ago quoted as saying he didn't want to leave. Really is no story here tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yes I do but I am not watching his season review. Like I said though, I can ONLY see Tevez coming in IF Xabi goes. I am no saying for definite if he stays or goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 liverpool make fresh bid for lavezzi. setanta.. Liverpool target Ezequiel Lavezzi is the subject of a bid from a major English club, according to his agent. Rafa Benitez has been strongly linked with a move for the Napoli striker, and the player’s agent, Alejandro Mazzoni, claimed earlier this month that The Reds had seen an offer rejected. However, Mazzoni has now revealed that a fresh offer is on the table and, as the 24-year-old Argentina international is unhappy with the way he has been treated by club president Aurelio De Laurentiis, he has suggested that the deal may be likely to go through. "His stay depends entirely on Napoli, but I think that the club is now intending to sell him," he told Radio Kiss Kiss. “Napoli have not kept the promises they made to Lavezzi. “I'm waiting for a call from [Napoli sporting director] Pierpaolo Marino about a meeting with the president, so it's a bit difficult for us to know what Napoli want. “The last time I saw the director, I told him that there had been a bid from a foreign club for Lavezzi. “The president, though, has not even responded.” Asked if the offer was from Liverpool, he said: “I am not authorised to talk about it, but I can say that there was a genuine offer and Marino rejected it. “What counts, though, is what happens with Napoli and, at the moment, we do not have any relationship with them at all. “Marino had promised Lavezzi an improved contract, but we have not heard anything since.” He added: “Today there is an offer for the player and I have the impression that the club wants to sell him. “I would like to stress that Napoli are important to Lavezzi, but we are talking about an English club in the Champions League and, moreover, they are offering him three times what he earns now. “Players are not slaves – they are people.” Source Setanta news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
why? Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I wonder how much he is slaving away for at the moment? A good few thousand Euros a week one suspects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Rafa said on the season review that Babel has potential and he would like him to fufil it at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFraser Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I think Coldberg's points can be reduced to this: You finished the season on the high that you did because United failed to turn up against you at Old Trafford. So long as that anomoly is addressed next season we can all be happy that the status quo will return, where you guys finish third and we win the league by a clear margin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
why? Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 No-one cares mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Why is it United failed to turn up? Maybe we were just better than you, or can you not accept that? If not come back when you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Got this from the Liverpool messageboard, dont know if any truth. Man City believe they have won the race to sign tevez and barry 42mill By DAVID HARRISON, 30/05/2009 MANCHESTER CITY believe they have won a £42million race for Carlos Tevez and Gareth Barry. The richest club in the world are ready to rubber-stamp a £32m deal to steal Tevez away from city rivals United. And they will offer £10m-rated Barry £90,000 a week to see off Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs. The move for Argentinian striker Tevez, 25, also blows Liverpool and Chelsea out of the chase with City happy to meet Kia Joorabchian's £32m asking price. Liverpool's bid for the former West Ham forward was the lowest offer received. Boss Mark Hughes will also pay Tevez nearly £140,000 a week in a four-year deal. Joorabchian will have one final meeting with Old Trafford chiefs this week to find out whether Sir Alex Ferguson sees Tevez as anything more than a bit-part player. Those assurances are unlikely - leaving the way clear for City. Hughes is in the Middle East to talk about transfer targets with City's Abu Dhabi owners and has made it clear he sees Tevez as vital to the club. City are much further down the road with Tevez than Barry. But they are confident their financial clout will get them the Aston Villa captain. Liverpool felt they were in pole position after their abortive attempt to land Barry, 28, last summer. But the Reds are unable to match the Arabs' vast wealth.Barry could yet decide he values Champions League football over money but Eastlands officials are confident of getting their man. headlne on alot of back pages tomorrow ***** city Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 City will sign all the players this summer iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Hmmm, last player to move from United to City? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Hmmm, last player to move from United to City? Big dane Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 http://www.bestway4you.com/cart/detail.asp?id=1420 Not sure if it is genuine or not but it has the correct logos and stuff so it is probably made in an Indian sweatshop or something like that. But still, the new Liverpool away kit for 8 quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 http://www.bestway4you.com/cart/detail.asp?id=1420Not sure if it is genuine or not but it has the correct logos and stuff so it is probably made in an Indian sweatshop or something like that. But still, the new Liverpool away kit for 8 quid. I'm fairly sure it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Why was my writing all grey then? Yeah I doubt it is but still, worth a punt I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxCatxx Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 http://www.bestway4you.com/cart/detail.asp?id=1420Not sure if it is genuine or not but it has the correct logos and stuff so it is probably made in an Indian sweatshop or something like that. But still, the new Liverpool away kit for 8 quid. They aren't real, but they are really good quality. I've used them a few times, worth buying a few 'cause the P+P is a fair bit iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James07? Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Big dane Pete Not directly. The last was Terry Cooke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Aren't those shirts the ones they make after hours on the sly from the proper factory? Sure I heard someone saying that on these forums, going to take a chance anyway on a few of the spanish shirts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 The thing is, signing Eidur would distrupt the core of our squad, seeing as Gerrard, Carra and Xabi hate him. First I've heard about that, any info on specifics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just-Wool Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 What our resident manc idiot fails to realise is that until this season our problems have been both not being able to win enough against the small teams AND losing to the mancs, Arsenal and Chelsea. Now we have the monkey off our backs of winning our first league games under Rafa against said teams, especially drubbing the mancs 4-1 at their place and ending Chelsea's unbeaten run at theirs we no longer have to go in those games in the hope to get a point. We can genuinely expect to go there and fight for the win. The problem has been not beating the diddy teams who just want to camp on our goalline this year, of which the mancs didn't have a problem with because the diddy teams were either too scared of Ronaldo or the mancs got a lucky penalty/goal disallowed decision in their favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 http://www.bestway4you.com/cart/detail.asp?id=1420Not sure if it is genuine or not but it has the correct logos and stuff so it is probably made in an Indian sweatshop or something like that. But still, the new Liverpool away kit for 8 quid. ive got a few of these which i use for 5 a side. they are probably fake but its hard to tell for £8 you cant complain. like cat said the p & p is high which is why i got 3 last time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Todays rumours Chelsea and Liverpool are battling it out for Paris St Germain midfielder Stephane Sessegnon - who is rated at around £12m. (Full story: News of the World) Liverpool's players have told manager Rafael Benitez that he should bring Newcastle striker Michael Owen back to Anfield. (Full story: The People) Sunday Mirror claims Tom Hicks and George Gillet are going to commit to the club by landing a £350 million refinancing deal. The move could also bring an improved summer budget. Javi Martinez has also issued a come and get me plea according to the paper. Tom Hicks and Georgoe Gillet feel they can manage a new loan quite easily aftere the club increased its profits to a record £40 million. Deal will hinge on Gillet and hicks pouring more of their own finance into Anfield and the pair are looking to raise funds by selling some of their other sporting assets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Hahahahahahahhahahaha Which knucklehead player of ours said to bring Owen I wonder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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