Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I have been liverpool 5 times and been sacked every time on most occasions i was 4th pushing 3rd and no lower than 6th in the league with over ten games to go. But the worst has just happend, I just finished third in the league behined man u and man city, man u lost 1 game all season and it was against me, then i drew away to them on the last day had over 80 points and was happy woth my season and got sacked, how can i possibly compete with these two teams in the first season, getting sacked is so unfair! I was happy with third in the league, the only reason i didnt win the fa cup is because i got man u at old trafford which is almost unwinnable. What on earth do i have to do to keep my job, look at the league table in real life man u and man city are running away with it, if liverpool finish 3rd will dalglish get sacked? No chance! Everyone knows liverpool have half a new team at the start and they need time to blend so performances are not going to come straight away and yet i had only a few flat results all season, which everyone has. Ive never had this problem on previous games they have always been patient, and yet the season after our lowest league finish in years the expectations are higher than ever.... Ive wasted so much time on this This needs to be addressed in an update has anyone else had this problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyfoot Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Everyone keeps complaining about Livepool, I am really considering starting playing with them - might be the only challenging job in the start of the game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 What were the board expectations at the start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 A title challnege, oh by the way, arsenal finished 6th, does wenger get sacked? NO! I understand the fact im putting sunday league footballer as past experience so it adds to pressure but im trying to be as realistic as i can but still want to manage liverpool which is the point of the game.... the fact that we can get the chance being so obsecure... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 and the board dont even warn you that your under pressure, never got one warning all season.... not even from the press! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I basically cant play this game anymore unless its edited on an update as i have no desire to manage any other team, im a liverpool fan i want to manage liverpool... im not an ex international footballer (although i wish i was) so im not going to give myself a fake headstart by saying i am one.... does anyone have any idea if SI or looking into fixing this? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I just checked my messages and i got a warning off the media on matchday which i didnt notice as their is something wrong with the alerts that seems to skip the first message or something, ALSO i was on a 20 match league un beaten run, lasted all 2012, setting defensive records as i went and had +47 gd ARE YOU JOKING!? I beat Chelsea 4-1 at home beat man u at home (with ten men) beat arsenal at home and drew with man city at home even though suarez had a torn calf muscle and i still went unbeaten, beating spurs at home and everton at home Look at that record... Im devastasted.... What a waste of time in my life.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave9ffc Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Have you tried asking the board for more time to turn things around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 The "challenge for title" expectation has to be too high for Liverpool in season 1. For realism, surely it should be "qualify for Champions League". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I would have asked for more time if i new i was under pressure there was nothing to be turned around and i didnt notice the media matchday warning as the processing skipped it, like it did the same when my ass man left for blackburn, it didnt even tell my i done a search filter and it said if it s a bad result, a draw away to man u who are champions and i am the only team to beat em all seaon is not a bad result In real life if your player gets sent off away to west brom and you then go 3-1 down because of it and end up drawing 3-3 is that a bad result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Yeh there needs to be STOPS in the media for when coaches are approached, And when the board are issuing warnings. It's been like this for years and it's disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 if i add up the poor results and make them into wins, like flat draws, i still couldnt have caught 2nd because they win evey match!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 my very last board update was they where satisfied with me, then i beat everton and drew away to man u and got sacked, theres no chance if this happens this season in real life kenny will be sacked, alls the board want is CL football its been well documented in the media! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phidelta42 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 If you reduce Liverpool's rep from 8650 to 8600 the expectation is Champions League qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 If you reduce Liverpool's rep from 8650 to 8600 the expectation is Champions League qualification. Handy tip, thanks. Wondered if there was anything you could tweak to bring back down to something more realistic. Was put off managing Liverpool because of so many getting sacked too easily, but will try it in future save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf1488 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I basically cant play this game anymore unless its edited on an update as i have no desire to manage any other team, im a liverpool fan i want to manage liverpool... im not an ex international footballer (although i wish i was) so im not going to give myself a fake headstart by saying i am one.... does anyone have any idea if SI or looking into fixing this? Thanks You dont want to give yourself a fake headstart by saying your an ex international? Although... you are willing to give yourself a fake head start by selecting Liverpool as your club to manage when you have a Sunday League reputation. Never once seen a Sunday League manager take charge at Liverpool... Anyway, there is no need for a fix. All you need to do is start the game with a team thats worthy of your reputation, maybe start unemployed... Then once you work your way high enough you can take the Liverpool job and not worry about getting sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 You dont want to give yourself a fake headstart by saying your an ex international? Although... you are willing to give yourself a fake head start by selecting Liverpool as your club to manage when you have a Sunday League reputation. Never once seen a Sunday League manager take charge at Liverpool...Anyway, there is no need for a fix. All you need to do is start the game with a team thats worthy of your reputation, maybe start unemployed... Then once you work your way high enough you can take the Liverpool job and not worry about getting sacked. Graeme Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 You dont want to give yourself a fake headstart by saying your an ex international? Although... you are willing to give yourself a fake head start by selecting Liverpool as your club to manage when you have a Sunday League reputation. Never once seen a Sunday League manager take charge at Liverpool...Anyway, there is no need for a fix. All you need to do is start the game with a team thats worthy of your reputation, maybe start unemployed... Then once you work your way high enough you can take the Liverpool job and not worry about getting sacked. Are you having a laugh? There is a reason its a game and not real life.....? There is a reason we pay good money for it, we want to be ourselves and manage are favourite team, if its not going to work why give the option i new someone would say this, hence why i said its the point of the game, as an obsecure person can manage their favourite team, besides what had mourinho done before managgment he was just a tranlsaotr, not a footballer... he got his chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 and if i start unemplyed, which i have done before, by the time i get the liverpool job i cant use my favourite players or devlop the current youth as they will all be to old thereofe its not as fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 And also, how realistic is it if i set myself as an ex international footballer when i would be english and 25 and never heard of....? Not realistic either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 The "challenge for title" expectation has to be too high for Liverpool in season 1. For realism, surely it should be "qualify for Champions League". Or "avoid relegation" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingken Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I have been liverpool 5 times and been sacked every time on most occasions i was 4th pushing 3rd and no lower than 6th in the league with over ten games to go. But the worst has just happend, I just finished third in the league behined man u and man city, man u lost 1 game all season and it was against me, then i drew away to them on the last day had over 80 points and was happy woth my season and got sacked, how can i possibly compete with these two teams in the first season, getting sacked is so unfair! I was happy with third in the league, the only reason i didnt win the fa cup is because i got man u at old trafford which is almost unwinnable. What on earth do i have to do to keep my job, look at the league table in real life man u and man city are running away with it, if liverpool finish 3rd will dalglish get sacked? No chance! Everyone knows liverpool have half a new team at the start and they need time to blend so performances are not going to come straight away and yet i had only a few flat results all season, which everyone has. Ive never had this problem on previous games they have always been patient, and yet the season after our lowest league finish in years the expectations are higher than ever.... Ive wasted so much time on this This needs to be addressed in an update has anyone else had this problem? exact same scenario to me finished 3rd and still they wernt happy, so just counting days till sacked although managed to just sign tevez and affelay, what confused me most was when i was 3rd for most of the season it said my players are concerned about underachieving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat1974 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 i got sacked 3 times as liverpool manager.then in my new game i signed samba and shawcross to strengthen my defence and won the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjiDavidson Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 You dont want to give yourself a fake headstart by saying your an ex international? Although... you are willing to give yourself a fake head start by selecting Liverpool as your club to manage when you have a Sunday League reputation. Never once seen a Sunday League manager take charge at Liverpool.... I was going to say essentially the same thing, It's a game at the end of the day Campbell1892 but it is realistic that if an inexperienced Sunday league manager promised to win the title and only managed to bring them 3rd then they would be sacked. Infact most managers who fail to meet their expectations regardless of "past experience" will come under pressure from their players and their chairmen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFC Rule Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Don't set the expectations so high. I'm into my 5th season as LFC manager. Each year only promise Champions League qualification. Despite the fact that I've only won the Lg Cup and Europa Lg I've never been put under pressure because I aslways finish in top four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Don't set the expectations so high. I'm into my 5th season as LFC manager. Each year only promise Champions League qualification. Despite the fact that I've only won the Lg Cup and Europa Lg I've never been put under pressure because I aslways finish in top four. Do you get choice of expectations at game start with Liverpool?? Assumed it was "challenge for title" or bust, never having tried it. If you set "challenge for title" yourself when given a choice then tbf that's setting yourself up for a fall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Yeh I always say top four too. I would love to say title challenge every year. But it just doesn't work out that way sometimes. Top four gives a nice budget and expectations are reasonable. I'd only use Title Challenge in Spain, where it's a 2 horse race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginga-Assassin Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'm finding no such problem. My starting reputation was Sunday League Footballer, and I finished 2nd in my first season, 3 points behind United. My tip would be to drop Carra straight off the bat. In my experience he's a bit of a liability, especially given the masses of small, fast strikers in the league now so I tend to use Coates with Agger from the start. Though if you're really annoyed at this and find it to be an imbalance then just increase your reputation. That's as close to a "Difficulty level" as I've found in the game, it can buy you an extra season sometimes. Do you get choice of expectations at game start with Liverpool?? Assumed it was "challenge for title" or bust, never having tried it.If you set "challenge for title" yourself when given a choice then tbf that's setting yourself up for a fall. You get a choice, but "Title Challenge" is the minimum. It's either that, or guarantee you win the title. Or, as was said earlier, just decrease Liverpool's reputation by 50 and you can get Champions League Qualification as a target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFC Rule Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I checked it out and you're right jibby123 the least expectation in season 1 is title challenge. I came second and in the second season I was given the option of Champ Lg qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjiDavidson Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Liverpool are Dreamers though, they set out each season thinking they are going to win the league, so it is not unrealistic that this is their minimum ambition lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I was going to say essentially the same thing, It's a game at the end of the day Campbell1892 but it is realistic that if an inexperienced Sunday league manager promised to win the title and only managed to bring them 3rd then they would be sacked. Infact most managers who fail to meet their expectations regardless of "past experience" will come under pressure from their players and their chairmen. i didnt fail to meet expectation it was title challenge and i finished third... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Isn't it a bug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Liverpool are Dreamers though, they set out each season thinking they are going to win the league, so it is not unrealistic that this is their minimum ambition lol. As previously written, its been well documented this season that the board have asked kenny for champions league qualification not the title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 on my save liverpool were top by 5 points and unbeaten on boxing day :/ i think the boards get a bit hasty, steve kean was sacked for being 13th O.O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 First season with Liverpool is challenging. The board have unrealistic expectations and it is very easy to get sacked, regardless of what you set your starting reputation as a result. All jokes aside, I don't think there's a Liverpool fan on the planet, in real life, who expected us to challenge for the title this year. Kenny might survive only delivering Europa League at the end of the season, in game world, securing Champion's League qualification should be enough to keep your job and it just isn't. Maybe non-Liverpool fans of FM/CM will claim rough justice as the perception was that we had it easy for many versions but back in the real world most of us are actually realistic, so when you get sacked for taking Liverpool second or third, even fourth in the Premier League it, justly, feels like you're being hard done by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Liverpool isnt that hard, just won my 3rd League title in a row. Currently it's the 2013/14 season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jri Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 the first season was hard to get through but very enjoyable. I only wanted champions league qualification and finished second - 4 points behind United. I only realised at the end that they wrre 'disappointed i didn't challenge!' and they were considering sacking me before they gave me a new contract. that would have been ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krald Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 You could try retire your first manager and add a new one after the first season too, from what I hear second season expectations are lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 i got sacked 3 times as liverpool manager.then in my new game i signed samba and shawcross to strengthen my defence and won the league. who did you have to sell to get the money for those two? i've set first transfer window to OFF, but only got 6mill for january. brought in adam johnson for 5.5mill and he got injured for 5 weeks after just 45 minutes of play i'm now relying on brining in quality loans. Christian Maggio at Right Midfield in january and Draxler as an attacking midfielder at the start of the game.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairosTheKing Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Best thing to do is to adjust you budget, then ask for a higher % of transfer revenue and then ask for higher wage budget, then transfer all that to transfer funds. Kuyt £14million Agger £18million replace with shawcross Reina around £50 million and replace with a german kid called ter stegen. Max £5million Skrtel £10million You can make quite alot. The only way really to keep your job is to keep tabs on top teams and make sure you get to FA cup final. The one I have just done I won league cup, lost in FA cup final and finished 3rd in league and even then my job was insecure but I did not get sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 just won the League Cup against Stoke. was 2-0 up and ended up conceeding in the final minute to go 2-2. finished a 4-2 win I did go through 3 losses in a row though, just before that League Cup win. hopefuly that will be enough for me to keep my job. currently sitting 4th, 3 points behind Spurs in third place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P O\'D Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I basically cant play this game anymore unless its edited on an update as i have no desire to manage any other team, im a liverpool fan i want to manage liverpool... im not an ex international footballer (although i wish i was) so im not going to give myself a fake headstart by saying i am one.... does anyone have any idea if SI or looking into fixing this? Thanks And how many unknown managers who player sunday league football have got the Liverpool job. You won't set your experience as its unrealistic but you take the job as an unknown which is just an unrealistic. Either make yourself better or if you want realism EARN It. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidFury Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 And how many unknown managers who player sunday league football have got the Liverpool job. You won't set your experience as its unrealistic but you take the job as an unknown which is just an unrealistic. Either make yourself better or if you want realism EARN It. I agree that the expectations of the Liverpool job are too high in season one, but I agree with this too. To the OP, if you feel that an international footballer is 'too unrealistic', then why not professional footballer? Nation reputation is infinitely more plausable than local reputation, and then you won't have the stigma of having represented your country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky1989 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Liverpool are Dreamers though, they set out each season thinking they are going to win the league, so it is not unrealistic that this is their minimum ambition lol. Grow up and stop talking rubbish. I doubt the vast majority of Liverpool fans this season or last thought we'd have a shot at winning the title. This season most have been aiming for 4th place and would be extremely happy if we got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuullddoogg Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have been liverpool 5 times and been sacked every time on most occasions i was 4th pushing 3rd and no lower than 6th in the league with over ten games to go. But the worst has just happend, I just finished third in the league behined man u and man city, man u lost 1 game all season and it was against me, then i drew away to them on the last day had over 80 points and was happy woth my season and got sacked, how can i possibly compete with these two teams in the first season, getting sacked is so unfair! I was happy with third in the league, the only reason i didnt win the fa cup is because i got man u at old trafford which is almost unwinnable. What on earth do i have to do to keep my job, look at the league table in real life man u and man city are running away with it, if liverpool finish 3rd will dalglish get sacked? No chance! Everyone knows liverpool have half a new team at the start and they need time to blend so performances are not going to come straight away and yet i had only a few flat results all season, which everyone has. Ive never had this problem on previous games they have always been patient, and yet the season after our lowest league finish in years the expectations are higher than ever.... Ive wasted so much time on this This needs to be addressed in an update has anyone else had this problem? This is mean but...I'd love to have seen the look on your face when you read that you'd got the sack! LOL! In all seriousness though, that is ridiculous and very unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have been liverpool 5 times and been sacked every time on most occasions i was 4th pushing 3rd and no lower than 6th in the league with over ten games to go. But the worst has just happend, I just finished third in the league behined man u and man city, man u lost 1 game all season and it was against me, then i drew away to them on the last day had over 80 points and was happy woth my season and got sacked, how can i possibly compete with these two teams in the first season, getting sacked is so unfair! I was happy with third in the league, the only reason i didnt win the fa cup is because i got man u at old trafford which is almost unwinnable. What on earth do i have to do to keep my job, look at the league table in real life man u and man city are running away with it, if liverpool finish 3rd will dalglish get sacked? No chance! Everyone knows liverpool have half a new team at the start and they need time to blend so performances are not going to come straight away and yet i had only a few flat results all season, which everyone has. Ive never had this problem on previous games they have always been patient, and yet the season after our lowest league finish in years the expectations are higher than ever.... Ive wasted so much time on this This needs to be addressed in an update has anyone else had this problem? they wanted the title you failed, it was a bit harsh on them to sack after first season but its not a bug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menion Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I managed to finish 5th and kept my job...I did finish on 81 points though (that's title winning points there). After a rocky start to the season I steamrolled the rest. Me hitting form after Christmas may have saved my job. Helps when you win the FA Cup and get to the League Cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evora69 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Are you having a laugh? There is a reason its a game and not real life.....? There is a reason we pay good money for it, we want to be ourselves and manage are favourite team, if its not going to work why give the option i new someone would say this, hence why i said its the point of the game, as an obsecure person can manage their favourite team, besides what had mourinho done before managgment he was just a tranlsaotr, not a footballer... he got his chance. I don't think that's correct. When he was picked to manage Benfica he already had several years experience as Coach and Ass Man in teams like FC Porto and Barcelona with coaches like Bobby Robson and Van Gaal, that's much more experience than the majority of the managers that get a job in a big club only because he was a great football player... He played football at junior level in Portugal in Vit. Setubal, but as he said "he wasn't very good", so he went to college getting a degree (something related with psycology in sport or something, I can't remember). His father was football Manager in Vitória de Setúbal and some other teams of the Portuguese 1st division (now called Liga Sagres), so he had the genes in him just nedeed an oportunity. And it came when he started to work at Sporting (POR) with Bobby Robson essencially as a translator, but that didn't last long as Bobby Robson immediatelly saw many qualities in him and started to give him more responsabilities. When they both went to FC Porto he was no longer a translator. He was responsable for making the tactical report of the opposition teams. With Van Gaal in Barcelona he reached the post of Ass. Man. Only them Benfica hired him as Manager. Unfortunatly for Benfica fans that didn't go very well. He was sacked because the Benfica president was stupid. This is just a game, it tries to simulate reality but sometimes it doesn't do it very well, so why wouldn't you cheat a litlle and give yourself more reputation or the club less? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdrawmer Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Are you having a laugh? There is a reason its a game and not real life.....? There is a reason we pay good money for it, we want to be ourselves and manage are favourite team, if its not going to work why give the option i new someone would say this, hence why i said its the point of the game, as an obsecure person can manage their favourite team, besides what had mourinho done before managgment he was just a tranlsaotr, not a footballer... he got his chance. Exactly the point being made. On one hand you say it's a game, and on the other hand you're setting your reputation to sunday league footballer. If it's a game just set it as international footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Exactly the point being made. On one hand you say it's a game, and on the other hand you're setting your reputation to sunday league footballer. If it's a game just set it as international footballer. Except it won't change anything. The expectations will still be the same and he'd still get sacked for not 'challenging' for the league which in game terms means finishing at least 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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