AbsoluteGenius Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 In real life it appears that Sol Campbell is quitting Notts County after playing only one game for the club. The problem is not lack of first team football, difficulties adjusting or relationships with staff/players. He simply regrets joining and immediately wants to leave. Should this type of scenario be implemented into Football Manager? For example, if you are managing a small club and land a big player, should it be possible that they immediately want to leave? As far as I am aware it is currently impossible in the game. Players never immediately want to leave a club after only one game. Players want to leave clubs all the time in FM, but never straight away. In light of the Sol Campbell situation, should changes be made? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Have you seen any other examples irl? I have seen players wanting to leave immediately if they "feel they were brought to the club under false pretences". That's well okay, but for other reasons I don't remember seeing that elsewhere ever. We should not start introducing this as a feature after it has happened irl just once in a blue moon. It would lead to happening in the game way too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Players who join you and state that your club is just a stop in he's way to glory (under this you guess that high profile teams are involved) are stating almost the same. Those are the players which you hardly can keep more then 2 seasons which in my opinion is bad business unless you get a huge profit out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazingSteve Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I think this happened to Hamilton this season as well. I believe they signed a guy who decided after a week or so that he didn't fancy Scotland so they let him go again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ely-matty Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 but are few exceptions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 i have just signed a player in the close season and when i took a closer look at the start of the season he was'nt really any better than what i had got. so i have only played him in 1 game and now 8 games into the new season he wants to leave. not quite the same as sol but close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardjarvie Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Am i right in saying if Sol leaves Notts County he can't sign for another team until Jan 1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 You do get players wanting to leave almost immediately, if they feel they were "brought to the club under false pretences" and i think thats sufficient in the game tbh. this kind of situation hardly ever crops up irl, so no need to include it in the game. bearing in mind the thread thats floating around in here saying the game is "cheating" cos players want to move to bigger clubs, can you imagine the response if a player did a sol?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Am i right in saying if Sol leaves Notts County he can't sign for another team until Jan 1? if they release him on a free then i think he can still sign for another team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Mutual termination? That's the player and the club agreeing to end the contract, exactly what looks like is going to happen here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 If a player feels hes "brought to the club under false pretences", he should always accept a mutual termination and everyone can be happy. It makes no sense for a player to want to leave the club and then refuse when you let him leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 if they release him on a free then i think he can still sign for another team. I dont think they can, if a player has played for a club after the window has closed, he cannot sign for another club even on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 If a player feels hes "brought to the club under false pretences", he should always accept a mutual termination and everyone can be happy. It makes no sense for a player to want to leave the club and then refuse when you let him leave. That's actually a good point. It's always kind of frustrated me how some players won't accept a mutual termination even though they aren't happy for reasons such as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLLMEISTER1 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Have you seen any other examples irl?I have seen players wanting to leave immediately if they "feel they were brought to the club under false pretences". That's well okay, but for other reasons I don't remember seeing that elsewhere ever. We should not start introducing this as a feature after it has happened irl just once in a blue moon. It would lead to happening in the game way too often. hameour bouazza at sivasspor in turkey now at blackpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I dont think they can, if a player has played for a club after the window has closed, he cannot sign for another club even on a free. ok. also does the 2 clubs in a year thing apply or is that just for loans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reisse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 so does this mean sol campbell will be in notts county squad in FM 10? can anyone confirm this? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardjarvie Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I think he will be a free agent but unavailable to play until Jan 2010 but dont quote me on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I think he will be a free agent but unavailable to play until Jan 2010 but dont quote me on it. i just did!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reisse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 ok thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I think he will be a free agent but unavailable to play until Jan 2010 but dont quote me on it. Quoted and sued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 according to teletext, the football league have confirmed he CANNOT sign for another club til january.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 This is pretty good news, now he's previously signed for County he should be fairly easy to snap up for other teams around the bottom end of the football league, unless Toon and other big Championship clubs decide they want him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 makes you wonder why he said he wants to leave now and not wait at least until the end of the year if he cannot sign for another club. maybe he just wants christmas off this year!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardjarvie Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Or maybe he heard fm2010 is getting released soon and wants time off to play it.doubt it mind you LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfawcett Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 it does happen more often. remember didi hamann signed for bolton then went to city the next day. david unsworth was at west ham(?) for about 30 days. there was something with kevin campbell in turkey i dont know how long he was there for but he left quite quickly after the chairman called him a canabil(sp). i could see this being introduced but it would have to be a rare occurence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAmzz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 dieter hamamn changed his mind about joining bolton almost straight away, he didnt kick a ball for the club and man city had to pay 500k to break his contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 it does happen more often. remember didi hamann signed for bolton then went to city the next day. david unsworth was at west ham(?) for about 30 days. there was something with kevin campbell in turkey i dont know how long he was there for but he left quite quickly after the chairman called him a canabil(sp). i could see this being introduced but it would have to be a rare occurence. was it villa that unsworth signed for and then said his wife did'nt like it in the midlands or something and quickly moved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfawcett Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 was it villa that unsworth signed for and then said his wife did'nt like it in the midlands or something and quickly moved on. yeh i wasnt sure if it was villa or west ham but just a few examples. theres always the magical ali dia example at southampton was it 23 minutes or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 yeh i wasnt sure if it was villa or west ham but just a few examples. theres always the magical ali dia example at southampton was it 23 minutes or something. Did'nt he claim to be the cousin of george weah and graham souness put him on the bench and sent him on, based on that one claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardjarvie Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I remember him.souness put him on as a sub then i think he took him off 10 mins later because he was cack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 On the mirror football blogs website there is list of the top ten shortest transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted September 23, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted September 23, 2009 In real life, he can't sign for another football league club, or a Blue Square Premier side til January. We think it applies to the Prem too, although we haven't had confirmation on that from anyone. He could, potentially, move abroad, depending on the rules for a particular league. Basically, a player isn't allowed to sign permanently for 2 clubs in England in one window. In FM, he'll be starting on a free, and available to sign, as he hasn't actually signed for anyone in FM (has been much debated today!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 i expect notts county are quite relieved tbh. 40k a week (even if money is no object) could be used to paid 3 or 4 good players to get them through the leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 In real life, he can't sign for another football league club, or a Blue Square Premier side til January. We think it applies to the Prem too, although we haven't had confirmation on that from anyone. He could, potentially, move abroad, depending on the rules for a particular league. Basically, a player isn't allowed to sign permanently for 2 clubs in England in one window.In FM, he'll be starting on a free, and available to sign, as he hasn't actually signed for anyone in FM (has been much debated today!). this is the most sensible approach and also offers the fun element of being able to sign campbell if you take over the reigns of a lower prem/good championship side. much like when taribo west started on a free a few versions back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2goody Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I knew you weren't allowed to play for more than three clubs in a season, but not that you couldn't sign for two in one transfer window. Oh well I hope Sol goes abroad for a few months then comes back. Maybe he could play for Leeds Oh, speaking of which, we signed David Livermore a couple of years ago, then he left within a couple of days for Hull I think. The fee was exactly the same though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_da_best Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Players who join you and state that your club is just a stop in he's way to glory (under this you guess that high profile teams are involved) are stating almost the same. Those are the players which you hardly can keep more then 2 seasons which in my opinion is bad business unless you get a huge profit out of them. This is what Lassana Diarra Did at Portsmouth, and probably what Defoe, Crouch, Kranjcar, and Johnson had in mind also, except Diarra was the only one to state it when he joined, so if this feature was implemented in FM, I'd like to see a news message about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theres only one ALI DIA! Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I remember him.souness put him on as a sub then i think he took him off 10 mins later because he was cack. No he was not cack! Souness was a cack manager! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I knew you weren't allowed to play for more than three clubs in a season, but not that you couldn't sign for two in one transfer window.Oh well I hope Sol goes abroad for a few months then comes back. Maybe he could play for Leeds Oh, speaking of which, we signed David Livermore a couple of years ago, then he left within a couple of days for Hull I think. The fee was exactly the same though. leeds don't need campbell we have kisnorbo!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 according to teletext, the football league have confirmed he CANNOT sign for another club til january.... Teletext? What decade are we in here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Teletext? What decade are we in here... maybe he ment the red button on bbc or the text service on itv, dont know if its still called teletext? or is it just itv text, i never use it because it is sooooo slow compared with the bbc service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_ellis_19 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 If he's on a free i might re-sign him for Notts County on fm10 but he's 35, but would still be good for League 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Teletext? What decade are we in here... My old man still uses teletext. Finds it easier than typing and shizz. If he's on a free i might re-sign him for Notts County on fm10 but he's 35, but would still be good for League 2 He's still good enough for the Premier League imo. I'd have him at Brum and many clubs around us would say the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 He's still good enough for the Premier League imo. I'd have him at Brum and many clubs around us would say the same. You must not have seen his Notts Co performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I've seen it happpen to quite a few now. Denilson at the viatmese team Hameur Bouazza at The Turkish Team Sol Campbell - Notts County. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 You must not have seen his Notts Co performance. I didn't. Different league though isn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I didn't. Different league though isn't it. Precisely, if he didn't play well in a League 2 club, then there's no hope in The Prem, I agree match fitness etc, but I'm sure he's not Prem standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Precisely, if he didn't play well in a League 2 club, then there's no hope in The Prem, I agree match fitness etc, but I'm sure he's not Prem standards. It was only one game in fairness. It was a different team, a different league and he was against different types of opposition, he was never going to set the game alight that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Precisely, if he didn't play well in a League 2 club, then there's no hope in The Prem, I agree match fitness etc, but I'm sure he's not Prem standards. 35 year old Sol > Frank Quedrue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 35 year old Sol > Frank Quedrue Franks been really good this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Franks been really good this year. Did he play last night? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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