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Is this game still being supported? Seriously, haven't heard anything in months. It feels like its been 3-4 months since I heard that 1.5 was in the works, then I haven't seen a dev post since then.

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Riz's last post was two weeks ago https://community.sigames.com/profile/24596-riz-remes/content/

 

The lack of ongoing public communication and significant explanations regarding future plans has been sporadic since EHM1 was released two years ago, doesn't seem anything's different currently IMO (I get the impression it's still Riz doing the best he can with very limited time to work on EHM)

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FYI - Riz posted on the HFBoards EHM Thread today: "My time to develop EHM is limited and I've been focusing the little time I have had mainly on the editor, so I've got a big list of gameplay things I want to look at for 1.5 update. As before, this update is "ready when done" since there is a lot to do and test before it can be released." http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=132120733&postcount=111

 

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Yes, EHM is still very much in development but as time is limited, I tend to only post sporadically here nowadays. Work is ongoing for the 1.5 update still, ready when done.

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2 hours ago, FootballManager89 said:

Crazy 10 months can pass by without an update. I definitely feel like we were mislead into thinking this game was going to be an actual series instead the game is just dead now.

What caused you to think the game was going to be a series?

I've been actively involved with EHM since 2010 as a volunteer tester/researcher and the game was actually "dead" from 2010-2015 (there wasn't even a Forum on this site for it, no updates at all, no comments at all from Riz/SI, etc) but that's not the case now.....a game that you paid $20 for that is still being updated over two years later seems like a good deal to me

AFAIK the new EHM was never presented as anything other than the resurrection of a dead game that Riz would work on in his spare time/sporadically.....I have no idea how anyone could think they were misled; as for the 10 month delay, are sports simulation games usually still being updated years after release? isn't it usually 6-8 months after release all work on the game stops as they move to the next in the series? with never another update again?

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7 hours ago, Nino-33 said:

What caused you to think the game was going to be a series?

I've been actively involved with EHM since 2010 as a volunteer tester/researcher and the game was actually "dead" from 2010-2015 (there wasn't even a Forum on this site for it, no updates at all, no comments at all from Riz/SI, etc) but that's not the case now.....a game that you paid $20 for that is still being updated over two years later seems like a good deal to me

AFAIK the new EHM was never presented as anything other than the resurrection of a dead game that Riz would work on in his spare time/sporadically.....I have no idea how anyone could think they were misled; as for the 10 month delay, are sports simulation games usually still being updated years after release? isn't it usually 6-8 months after release all work on the game stops as they move to the next in the series? with never another update again?

Why defend something you don't want? Don't you want them to give frequent updates? Then why would you defend them for not giving you want you want and what we all want.

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3 hours ago, FootballManager89 said:

Why defend something you don't want? Don't you want them to give frequent updates? Then why would you defend them for not giving you want you want and what we all want.

What makes you think I wouldn't want more frequent updates? IMO it's not about what you or I want, it's about being realistic (if I'm going to wish for things with no sign of being realistic I'll wish for something like world peace or to win the lottery)

And you never answered what made you think it was going to be a series [and I wasn't defending infrequent updates, I was defending the idea that they never said there'd be a series and the idea that the game wasn't dead...I think they've been totally upfront from the beginning about the limited time EHM is getting (so it doesn't seem "crazy" at all to me that the time between updates is so long sometimes), and regardless of how infrequent a $20 game still being updated three years later seems impressive to me]

Edited by Nino-33

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On 11/4/2017 at 09:49, FootballManager89 said:

Crazy 10 months can pass by without an update. I definitely feel like we were mislead into thinking this game was going to be an actual series instead the game is just dead now.

 

There hasn't been any misleading. This was what SI said on the day of the original release of the Early Access version (link):

 

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3. Is there an estimated time frame as to when the Early Access period will cease? Will the game continue to be developed afterwards?

It will be months rather than years, but we haven’t set anything concrete. As for post ‘release’ development? That depends on the situation we find ourselves in. If it does well, then it becomes a fully licensed annual release. If it doesn’t, then that depends on whether Riz and the other members of the team have time to add to it in their spare time.

 

The game was in early access for around 8 months and since then it has been developed by Riz in his spare time (just as they said would be the case if the game didn't sell enough).

Edited by Archibalduk

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The situation at the moment is the same as before. As explained above, all the major updates since the game went from Early Access to Full Release have mainly been worked on by me alone. And for the last few months this year, I've been extremely busy with FM18 development cycle, which has meant there has been little time for EHM unfortunately. But the work on 1.5 update is still very much ongoing and once FM18 is out, I'm hoping to put some more time and effort on it.

And yes, the 1.5 update is not just the built-in editor, but will again feature a bunch of gameplay improvements and bug fixes. There are not going to be any more big new features added at this stage, outside of the editor but general gameplay improvements and tweaks are being done.

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I love the game Riz.  I've poured a lot of hours into this version of EHM, and you've definitely given me my money's worth.  I've been playing since the freeware days and have some fun memories going all the way back to it.  I wish hockey fans around the world would all get into this game the way football/soccer fans do the FM series so you could get a full team working on the annual release everyone on this forum would so like to see.  I truly appreciate your labor of love.

As a father of three (9,5,& 3 years old) I'd say spend as much time with your children as you can.  I can't believe how fast they grow!

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On 12/9/2017 at 19:35, filip_croatia said:

RIZ - will 1.5 update bring new format for Champions hockey league ? :)

Yes, the plan is to add support for the new format in 1.5 as well (it's actually next on my to-do list after I finish a small Olympics related tweak I'm working on). I'm hoping to also add some more customization for the licenses given to include teams in continental comps to allow people to have more say in what leagues take part etc.

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1174 hours on steam. But who's counting, eh? Love the game, Riz, as it stands, and any extra stuff is sweet, whether we wait for it for a week or a year!

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On 12/11/2017 at 14:39, filip_croatia said:

I assume that Olympic tweak is to have non-NHL-ers at Olympics ? :)

Not sure if you've seen my tweet about it, but yeah the Olympics related functionality tweak was to add a new extra rule that can be added to custom North American leagues to prevent them from sending players to participate in the Olympics. 

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7 hours ago, SoftyPants said:

1174 hours on steam. But who's counting, eh? Love the game, Riz, as it stands, and any extra stuff is sweet, whether we wait for it for a week or a year!

Much appreciated :)

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7 hours ago, Riz Remes said:

Not sure if you've seen my tweet about it, but yeah the Olympics related functionality tweak was to add a new extra rule that can be added to custom North American leagues to prevent them from sending players to participate in the Olympics. 

I am not much of twitter guy, although I have an account :)

One more thing to add - Triple Gold club (OG Gold, WC Gold and SC ) :)

 

 

14 hours ago, SoftyPants said:

1174 hours on steam. But who's counting, eh? Love the game, Riz, as it stands, and any extra stuff is sweet, whether we wait for it for a week or a year!

Near 800 hours :)

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On 2017-12-14 at 02:57, SoftyPants said:

1174 hours on steam. But who's counting, eh? Love the game, Riz, as it stands, and any extra stuff is sweet, whether we wait for it for a week or a year!

Yeah, I'd like to thank the devs (IE Riz, I guess) and the TBL-crew for EHM and all support around it. I still love this game. I only wish I had more time to play it.

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Perfect game, played it veeeeery very long. But posted 2 crash reports in last month and there is zero reply to that. If you could at least write, that you will check it. Then we will see, it is not dead. 

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Any update news Riz? Also, (having played FHM 4, I do prefer EHM), is there any chance of making the game run quicker? I'm got a average-above ave spec laptop and it's painfully slow running a handful of leagues compared to newer Football Manager games (with far bigger databases/leagues) and FHM 4. 

Do appreciate it's a one man band, but a nice update would be gratefully appreciated and welcomed! 

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On 06/07/2018 at 02:52, Riz Remes said:

Sorry for the lack of updates here, but this year has been a hectic one for me with regards to FM work, which has meant very little time allocated for any EHM development since early on in the year. The 1.5 update is still very much in the works, even though progress has been even slower this year than the year before.

Unfortunately due to my work commitments with FM this year, any major works on the EHM update would have required me to work outside of normal office hours (much like I did earlier to bring EHM back to Steam). However, as noted before, that has not been possible as we have a little daughter now in the family and family time supersedes any personal EHM dev time still. I'm hoping that once the FM19 cycle eases up a bit later in the year, I will again have more time to work on EHM and finally finish the 1.5 update.

Congrats on the family expansion Riz! I missed that when it was first announced.

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On 06/07/2018 at 08:52, Riz Remes said:

Sorry for the lack of updates here, but this year has been a hectic one for me with regards to FM work, which has meant very little time allocated for any EHM development since early on in the year. The 1.5 update is still very much in the works, even though progress has been even slower this year than the year before.

Unfortunately due to my work commitments with FM this year, any major works on the EHM update would have required me to work outside of normal office hours (much like I did earlier to bring EHM back to Steam). However, as noted before, that has not been possible as we have a little daughter now in the family and family time supersedes any personal EHM dev time still. I'm hoping that once the FM19 cycle eases up a bit later in the year, I will again have more time to work on EHM and finally finish the 1.5 update.

Just wanted to voice my support and gratitude at the beautiful game EHM. :applause:

And a little idea - what if you licensed the best roster updates from EHM-TBL or others and sold them as 'official roster update DLC' via Steam? I think a lot of people (like myself) would gladly pay 3-4 € every 4-6 months to get updated rosters and meanwhile support the game. It could be a nice little revenue stream that you guys could share with EHM-TBL without much work on your side.

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17 hours ago, Yankee112DK said:

Just wanted to voice my support and gratitude at the beautiful game EHM. :applause:

And a little idea - what if you licensed the best roster updates from EHM-TBL or others and sold them as 'official roster update DLC' via Steam? I think a lot of people (like myself) would gladly pay 3-4 € every 4-6 months to get updated rosters and meanwhile support the game. It could be a nice little revenue stream that you guys could share with EHM-TBL without much work on your side.

I doubt SI has a license to generate revenue off of a data update that has real leagues/players in it. And acquiring that license would likely negate any revenue from sales.

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