Macca_SAFC Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 We ended our interest in Goian over the price tag apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Dave Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I heard strong rumours Heerenveen is pretty close to signing Tim Krul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yeah I know. Wish he'd stay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 http://nufcblog.com/2008/07/22/newcastle-news/tim-krul-i-love-the-newcastle-united-club/ This news has made my day. Sorry Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magick beatty Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Krul's kicking is possibly the worst I've ever seen from a gk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Dave Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 http://nufcblog.com/2008/07/22/newcastle-news/tim-krul-i-love-the-newcastle-united-club/This news has made my day. Sorry Dave Don't feel sorry for me, I'm no Heerenveen fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMexico!! Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 That crap paper the Sun linking us with a move for Aiden McGeady today in a player plus cash deal, that player being N'Zogbia. Keep N'Zogbia me thinks, as i'm not sure how good McGeady actually is. Thoughts on the unlikely deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Extremely unlikely. Considering N’Zogbia’s looking for a move to London why on earth would he move even further up north? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Who on earth would start the bidding for a 26 year old England international with four years left on his deal, at £2m? Oh, nvm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Fish Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Who on earth would start the bidding for a 26 year old England international with four years left on his deal, at £2m? Oh, nvm... What is the situation with Warnock? Likely to leave? How well did he play last season? Would he really want to come to us and potentially be second choice left back anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hasn't McGeady literally just signed a 5 year contract at Celtic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hasn't McGeady literally just signed a 5 year contract at Celtic? Yup - am sure I read that over the last few days. It's just more lazy journalism from the tabloids. Re-hashing a link which surfaced about 3-4 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 What is the situation with Warnock? Likely to leave? No. How well did he play last season? Very Would he really want to come to us and potentially be second choice left back anyway? I don't think he'd want to come as first choice (And he's better than what you have, which your management seems to agree with), which is why this baffles me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Fish Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I just get the feeling that we are not going to hear any transfer news til the transfer has actually gone through. Anything else is mere speculation. Frustrating at times... To be honest, everyone can see the squad needs strengthening - I can't believe, despite the numerous conspiracy theories ppl keep peddling, that Mike Ashley, even if he wants to sell the club, could think that we can enter the season with the squad as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Fish Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 No.Very I don't think he'd want to come as first choice (And he's better than what you have, which your management seems to agree with), which is why this baffles me. Well... that's what is odd though. Enrique played well towards the end of last season and has the potential to be a very good left back indeed. So I am not entirely sure why we even need Warnock. Would be a strange move. Enrique needs some competition. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I just get the feeling that we are not going to hear any transfer news til the transfer has actually gone through. Anything else is mere speculation. Frustrating at times...To be honest, everyone can see the squad needs strengthening - I can't believe, despite the numerous conspiracy theories ppl keep peddling, that Mike Ashley, even if he wants to sell the club, could think that we can enter the season with the squad as it is. I agree - it would be suicide to go into the new season, with squad that we have at the moment. It's just too small. This coming season seems to be more about cost cutting/streamlining the club, so I reckon the best we can hope for is a mid-table finish, with the possibility of a cup run (if luck goes our way) It is frustrating, but maybe's it's no surprise after the boom and bust years of Shepherd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Fish Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 What do you reckon we need? I'm thinking: a LB a CB a creative midfielder a defensive midfielder a striker Having said - that would leave us with quite a few midfielders on our books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Don't think we need a defensive midfielder tbh. Where does Seb Larsson play in the midfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Fish Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Don't think we need a defensive midfielder tbh. Where does Seb Larsson play in the midfield? I think we need someone to potentially take over from/rotate with Butt. Unless we groom either Guthrie or Barton to play that role. Maybe not a priority this season, but certainly something I would like to see happen by next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted July 23, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 23, 2008 I'd say we could also do with a RB, as the only other back-up we seem to have is Geremi or a CB playing there. We certainly need 2/3 CM's, depending on Barton's situation, unless Milner will play this season in the middle (which isn't the worst idea ever as his work-rate is spot on). We do need a playmaker type though, someone who can dictate tempo and play decent through balls to our quick strikers and wingers. Also agreed with the LB, CB and ST. Basically the only positions we seem okay are the wings and GK. Will just have to wait and see, but from the soundbites from Keegan he's certainly keen and certainly looking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Just hope we don't panic buy on 31st August Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Enrique needs some competition. That's all. If it's just "competition" you want for him, then surely there'd be better ways to go about it than paying £5m+ (Because that's what it'd take as a minimum) for Warnock. And as someone who's just broken into the England team, and is a starter at a currently better team, it'd just make no sense for either party. Unless Keegan wants him to replace Enrique, or Enrique wants to leave. Either way, I hope our chairman tells you (Again) that he's unequivocally not for sale. And hopefully you'll listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy_Bum Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 My dad sent me a text this morning saying Newcastle have had a bid of 10 million from Liverpool for Milner. Dunno if its true. He heard it from Shepherd's brother who he is mates with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 The Milner story was in yesterday’s gossip column from a story in the Daily Star. Wouldn’t read too much into it. I can’t see Liverpool splashing out on anyone until they’ve got Barry sorted (if they ever do). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted July 23, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 23, 2008 Just to go back to Warnock, everything I've seen of him suggests he's a very good footballer, and we know Keegan still has an affinity with Liverpool, so one of their old boys would probably be an ideal signing for him. I know Enrique encouraged with his performances last year (and by all reports he's slimmed down over the summer, maybe even has a few extra yards of pace!) but if Warnock came, it would be a proper battle for the position, probably Warnock slightly ahead. Basically that could go one of two ways, Enrique sulks on the bench and eventually demands a move, or he improves his play, gets his head down and tries to force his way back into the team. Why not find out if he's actually got a bit of character? Warnock would be a good signing IMO, although surprised nothing has been made of the links to Shorey, who I also feel could be a good signing. Did anyone on here go to the 'pool game, I was at a festival so only caught the late write-up on NUFC.com. Heard Shola missed a sitter and Duff actually looked a player again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael F Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Emre has officially left now, fee undisclosed, rumoured to be a mars bar, two packets of cigs and a turkish delight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Not sure I subscribe to the theory that you should have two players battling it out for the same position. Managers will always say it’s the type of problem every manager loves to have but is it really? We’ve shown time and time again that when it comes to choosing between players we tend to bottle it and accommodate them all, sometimes disrupting the formation as a result. I prefer a system where you have your best 11 where everyone is aware of what your best 11 is, playing to the same formation and the remaining players are either backup (and are both aware and comfortable with this), or youngsters coming through who will be looking to eventually cement their place in the starting 11. It’s not so bad in positions where there’s more than one player, like centre half or central midfield, but in positions where there is only one player like full back it’s a nightmare. Having two players of similar ability who are both pushing for the first team won’t be a good thing, despite the talk about competition being healthy and upping their game. They’ll either chop and change the side, preventing it form settling or one will end up getting upset and disrupting the side. I’m struggling to think of many sides who mange this effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucampe Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I agree with you. If you look at Chelsea's left back situation, it could be described as 'two players battling for one position,' but it's pretty clear that Bridge is a second choice player who will still get plenty of games. If you're a team that's playing every season in the Champions League and making longer runs in the cups, it's easier to get games to accommodate your second-choice player. Also, a team like Chelsea can afford to trot out Bridge against teams like Stoke or Hull (well, any team really, Bridge is hardly a poor player) to get him league starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You've just got to look at Liverpool to show that the rotational policy and trying to keep everyone happy doesn't work, but when they played a set 11 (Torres every week) they started winning games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucampe Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I think that defensive positions are even less suited to rotation as well. Your back 5 should be a lot more settled and able to work together as defending requires more co-operation. Obviously Torres is far superior to any of Liverpool's striking options, that's why he should be starting as many games as Benitez thinks he can get away with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 On some fan websites, Sunderland and Boro fans are in a jubilant mood because they beat us to the signature of two players which we wanted (Digard and Chimbonda). They seem to think that we aren't the biggest club in the North-east anymore :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted July 24, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 24, 2008 I agree with what you're saying in regards to rotation, I totally disagree with that, but if two players push each other to be even better, especially if one if relatively inexperienced and can pick things up, surely that can only be a good thing? But I suppose you're right, other than Bridge/Cole, I can't think of many other on-a-par fullbacks at the same club, certainly not in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Fish Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I agree with what you're saying in regards to rotation, I totally disagree with that, but if two players push each other to be even better, especially if one if relatively inexperienced and can pick things up, surely that can only be a good thing?But I suppose you're right, other than Bridge/Cole, I can't think of many other on-a-par fullbacks at the same club, certainly not in the Premiership. I think it very much depends on the two players you have fighting for the place as you say. I don't think that buying Warnock for a sum of over 3.5 million makes any sense, when he is 5 or 6 years older than Enrique and a very similar standard. You would then have spent a fair amount of our budget on a player who brings little more, if anything at all, than Enrique currently does. Enrique has the potential to be very very good. By all means, get someone in to challenge him - but I can't see the sense in buying Warnock. However, I would like to see us buy a young (ie 18-22 year old) defensive midfielder who could provide cover for Butt and push him for a 1st team place - whilst learning from Butt. The same goes for a 'target man' centre forward who could learn from Viduka. That's how I envisage most Premiership teams outside of the top 4 should work their '2 players for every position'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMexico!! Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Just had delivery of the new change shirt. a medium but its huge. now got a few weeks to decide who to have on the back of the shirt. also got my free newcastle v valencia ticket for saturday 9th august. looked a times for trains and fares. will cost me a nice £88 there and back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Apparently Steven Taylor is raring to go. Has Taylor mentioned that he's raring to go? I reckon he's raring to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted July 24, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 24, 2008 He likes his steak rare to go? Chronicle sinking to new depths.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You've just got to look at Liverpool to show that the rotational policy and trying to keep everyone happy doesn't work, but when they played a set 11 (Torres every week) they started winning games The way I would look at it is that because we rotated our better players earlier in the season they were fresh enough to play a lot of games in a row at the back end of the season. Thats how rotation should work in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Oba Martins' mother has died. R.I.P Mrs Martins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Just following up on Oba's mother http://nufcblog.com/2008/07/25/players/obafemi-martins/oba-martins-mother-tragically-dies-in-fire/ If cba to look at the link, it says that his mother was parked next to a petrol tanker. The tanker set on fire and she went to move her car and she died in shock. She was planning on moving to Newcastle this September too. He was very close to his mother and KK has given him as much time as he wants to stay in Lagos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 We're being linked with Coloccini again. Haven't seen anything of him, but I reckon he'd be a great signing simply because it would stop me having to make him my first signing in FM every time I start a new game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu1892 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 cool hair too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael F Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Great post on N-O in the have we been punching above our weight thread Firstly, it does make me wince a bit when people say that Ashley should put his hand in his pocket. He's already cleared £90m of debt, which in the medium to long-term, is a fantastic bonus for the club. Ever since the first Keegan era, I've had this sense that the club has been desperate to get back to the top, but not been realistic about what it takes. It's like there's a belief that it only needs one or two big signings, or a change of manager, to restore us to our supposedly rightful position. There's been an atmosphere of desperation that hasn't helped. The new Board is taking the IMO entirely correct position that we have to be build from where we are, not from where we'd like to be, and that in the current times, you can spend £100 million and still finish outside the top four. A certain ex-Thailand Prime Minister is going to find that out the hard way. The other problem is we missed the chance to establish ourselves in the top four, during the Sir Bob era. At a crucial point, when we should have kicked on, Sir Bob wasn't backed, and we started sliding back again. It's now more difficult to get up there than it was 10 years ago, and we just have to face that. What's important is that we start to establish an upward momentum. It doesn't have to be meteoric. We just need a sense that the club and the team is improving. ------------------- I agree with this tbh, discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Sounds fair enough. I reckon we'll try and follow Villa's blueprint, which has been established under Randy Learner and Martin O'Neill. Small steps, but looking to progress all of the time. Malcolm Macdonald make a good point (for once!) on the 3 Legends, tonight. He said that in the past few years, we've been known for handing out daft wages to get so called 'top players' to come here and who ultimately haven't delivered. And when push comes to shove, you can't keep on doing that. Things have to change. In saying that - we still need 3/4 new bodies in before August 16th! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 From nufc.com: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The transfer of Plymouth Argyle youngster Aaron Spear to Newcastle United "is now close to being finalised", said the Championship club on Thursday. And the 15 year-old striker has been named in a 38-strong England U16 development training camp next month. Meanwhile, United have moved to secure another 15 year -old prospect, with Velje defender Niels Bisp Rasmussen arriving from his native Denmark for a week-long trial. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- More youngsters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToMexico!! Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 More youngsters What is the problem with more youngsters? We're building for the future and if the scouts have singled out these players as potentially good propects to take the club forward then why not sign them when they are this young, you could never know in 3/4/5 years time they could be potentially worth millions and will have more interest from other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I didn't say it was a bad idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsMonk Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Is todays match on the radio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Don't think its on radio as I think Durham are on instead. Just regular updates. Being linked with Burdisso, another Argentine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 We lost 1-0. Our triallist Bassong played too. Number 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Sorry for triple post: We are being linked with Senderos this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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