ReggaeBwoy Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What are peoples views on Hazard? Is Jose to blame for his poor form this season, or is the blame on Hazard himself? Looks a shadow of himself so far this season and doesn't seem to be used differently unless he is as I don't see all of Chelseas games. Well obviously he needs to improve but I think the whole team morale is affecting him too. Maybe it is the manager. He just does not seem to be bothered. When we were poor last leason he always took the game on his own initative. This season not too much but I don't think he has been as bad as people make out. He just has not done it over the 90 mins this season which has been frustrating. It is like he decides when and when to do his magic when I want it over the whole game. Swansea second half when we were down to 10 he was absolutely fantastic. WBA second half, same thing. Arsenal he was fantastic and second half against Newcastle he stepped up. Not as if he has been poor but because of his standards he set last season people will not take that in to consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It's essentially the same squad which coasted to the league last season, so to give sole blame on the players is pretty blinkered. Probably. That being said, wouldn't mind having Carlo back. If it's the same squad which coasted to the league last season, then it's clear that the manager isn't the problem because he hasn't bought in many new players, he's got the same guys who simply aren't performing. It'd be different if Jose bought and sold a lot of the team from last season but he hasn't, the core of the team is the same. That being said, wouldn't mind having Carlo back. Good luck trying to get back Carlo, the manager who was informed in the middle of a corridor that he was getting sacked, or so I've heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What are peoples views on Hazard? Is Jose to blame for his poor form this season, or is the blame on Hazard himself? Looks a shadow of himself so far this season and doesn't seem to be used differently unless he is as I don't see all of Chelseas games. Hazard's head isn't in the game. His season can be summed up by his penalty earlier in the season, he was lethal at taking penalties last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hazard is fat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well Klopp left Dortmund when they were heading towards the relegation zone did he not? What the Did you miss the second half of last season? We were in the bottom three at the winter break but rebounded to 7th place at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFootballManager Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well Klopp left Dortmund when they were heading towards the relegation zone did he not? He left at the end of the season where he literally took them from relegation to 7th when they went on a magnificent run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Apologies, read he left when they were heading to towards the relegation zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 If it's the same squad which coasted to the league last season, then it's clear that the manager isn't the problem because he hasn't bought in many new players, he's got the same guys who simply aren't performing. It'd be different if Jose bought and sold a lot of the team from last season but he hasn't, the core of the team is the same. Why isn't the accountability stand with the manager? Sure, there are players under-performing but is it the players' fault for Mourinho's ridiculous blame game - which conveniently means the buck never stops with him - this season and his atrocious behaviour in the whole Eva debacle (something which the players seemingly took issue with)? Who's to blame for the dubious (at best) on pitch decisions, like some of the awful lineups he's come up with this season which was most clear against Porto, and I think that for instance the whole Matic thing against Southampton essentially emphasised in a nutshell that he's run out of ideas and doesn't know what to do with this team anymore. Add to that that someone like Ivanovic has been atrocious yet undroppable, the shuffling of the CB pairings constantly, the **** football we've generally been playing, the poor transfers done under Mourinho's entire reign this time round etc etc I totally understand in general that manager's should be allowed leeway, and that players deserve more flak than what they usually receive but I don't think sole responsibility is on the players when it comes down to our dreadful start to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Apparently Mourinho at Spain/Ukraine watching Yarmolenko yesterday. I saw a pic of him under a hood ... top secret, you see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted October 13, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 13, 2015 It's almost as if we're playing Dinamo Kiev in that stadium next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ah yeah, could be that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 What is happening with Pedro at the moment? He didn't start the last game and I am wondering if I should be looking to get rid of him from my fantasy football team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted October 14, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 14, 2015 Don't pick any Chelsea players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Don't pick any Chelsea players. I would second that. Chelsea are very inconsistent atm. Plenty of other more consistent teams who have more predictable line ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I would second that. Chelsea are very inconsistent atm. Plenty of other more consistent teams who have more predictable line ups. The word you're looking for is *****. (rhymes with bright) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah we've been consistently bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Anyone else not expecting a win today? Villa were our bogey team for a while, we've beaten them the last couple of times but I can see them drawing / beating us today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Me. Losing could be Jose's last game too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hmm, I was chatting with a few people at work about this. General thoughts were that it's his behavior that's going to get him in trouble and run through Abramovich's patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So depressing watching Arsenal and City play and seeing how dull we are. I know we won but I want to see flair and some excitement. Our style of football from start to front has become so poor. Do we actually have any FB that are naturally attacking? Hazard being dropped because of his defensive performances apparently. He is on 0 goals. Is that because of his form or because of the way Mourinho is setting up the team? I think the latter. We are not getting the best our of our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Needed to get a win today, so I'm ok with how dull that game was tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yeah, I think it's important to win, but it's just papering over the cracks. The upset players aren't going to suddenly become happy off the back of a win over Villa, particularly with Mourinho's behavior and treatment of some players. The stories about some unhappy players aren't just rumors, but hopefully it's mostly down to the situation and we can get a run of wins now which will put some of these troubles behind us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Why was RLC subbed off after an hour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Not doing enough defensively apparently. So depressing watching Arsenal and City play and seeing how dull we are. I know we won but I want to see flair and some excitement. Our style of football from start to front has become so poor. Do we actually have any FB that are naturally attacking? Hazard being dropped because of his defensive performances apparently. He is on 0 goals. Is that because of his form or because of the way Mourinho is setting up the team? I think the latter. We are not getting the best our of our players. I for one am fuming that a team way off form and low on confidence only won 2-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Not doing enough defensively apparently.I for one am fuming that a team way off form and low on confidence only won 2-0. Against a team who is as low on confidence. The match stats were so similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Why was RLC subbed off after an hour? Subbed off at half time for more defensive solidarity. Thought he was pretty good in the first half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Subbed off at half time for more defensive solidarity. Thought he was pretty good in the first half Sorry I meant half time. And absolutely bizarre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He was playing as AM with Rami and Cesc behind him. Jose put Matic in for him and put Cesc up so yes was a defensive sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Not really sure what's caused the Mourinho-Fabregas bromance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 For all his defensive shortcomings he is the only one who makes excellent passes and was still at it last game. Can see why we need that type of player in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Would've taken a draw at the start looking at Dynamo's recent and home record. They were pretty **** though, so disappointed not to win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted October 20, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thought they actually looked more likely to score, especially in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Two clean sheets in a row. Improving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted October 20, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2015 Sure, if we look at the outcome rather than the process. Better performances in spells but the clean sheets weren't because of exceptionally improved defending, Villa missed at least one sitter and Kyiv had their good moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It was a slightly sarcastic comment, yet at the same time still true of course. Results more important than performances right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ivanovic's return can't come soon enough imo, Zouma not a fullback and Rahman got destroyed by Alan Hutton (not that I'm writing him off but he clearly needs more time and to maybe come in in better situations, hardly set the world on fire against Maccabi or Walsall and can't be fit yet after the timing of his move). Bit of time to rest and coming back into a team whose midfield seems to be functioning better hopefully means he's less exposed and we can work towards getting back to how we were last season. Still not good but it at least feels like we're getting somewhere now which is more than could be said a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlander Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Would've taken a draw at the start looking at Dynamo's recent and home record. They were pretty **** though, so disappointed not to win Is this some sort of joke? Their last 2 game Ukraine are 0-3 and 0-4. And before that they lost to Maccabi 0-2. They conceded 2 or more in their last 6 out of 7 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Is this some sort of joke?Their last 2 game Ukraine are 0-3 and 0-4. And before that they lost to Maccabi 0-2. They conceded 2 or more in their last 6 out of 7 games. Actually it was 0-3 (first game lost in Ukraine since early spring 2014) and 4-0. Plus we won against Maccabi. But 0-3 against local rival was truly upsetting and nobody really expected a tremendous game today. Waiting for London in two weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Is this some sort of joke?Their last 2 game Ukraine are 0-3 and 0-4. And before that they lost to Maccabi 0-2. They conceded 2 or more in their last 6 out of 7 games. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Is this some sort of joke?Their last 2 game Ukraine are 0-3 and 0-4. And before that they lost to Maccabi 0-2. They conceded 2 or more in their last 6 out of 7 games. They beat Maccabi... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlander Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Actually it was 0-3 (first game lost in Ukraine since early spring 2014) and 4-0. Plus we won against Maccabi.But 0-3 against local rival was truly upsetting and nobody really expected a tremendous game today. Waiting for London in two weeks. Yeah, sorry. Your official site is very weird with the results page. Usually, in such cases when all the games are for the same team and only one team column in the list(opponent), their scores are always to the left. On Dynamo website they are to the right for away games and to the left for home games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybob Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Ivanovic's return can't come soon enough imo, Zouma not a fullback and Rahman got destroyed by Alan Hutton (not that I'm writing him off but he clearly needs more time and to maybe come in in better situations, hardly set the world on fire against Maccabi or Walsall and can't be fit yet after the timing of his move). Bit of time to rest and coming back into a team whose midfield seems to be functioning better hopefully means he's less exposed and we can work towards getting back to how we were last season. Still not good but it at least feels like we're getting somewhere now which is more than could be said a few weeks ago. I'm hoping for the opposite. Having Ivanovic in the team this season has been like playing a concrete post at right back, opposition just run past him without even having to think about it. Baba has looked pretty iffy and made a few **** ups, but nowhere near as bad as Ivanovic has been so far. Also means we get to play Azpilecueta at right back as he has made a few mistakes on the left but looked more solid in his natural position on the right when played there. Agree about Zouma though, definitely not a full back though unfortunately doubt it's the last time we see him there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yeah, sorry. Your official site is very weird with the results page. Usually, in such cases when all the games are for the same team and only one team column in the list(opponent), their scores are always to the left. On Dynamo website they are to the right for away games and to the left for home games. Yeah, official web-site and statics there are crazy) Soccerway is your friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Who needs Stones when there is Christensen. Hearing he bossed the Juve attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Carroll's goal went in and I just didn't care at all. Not had that feeling since Benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Carroll's goal went in and I just didn't care at all. Not had that feeling since Benitez Only care when you're winning, eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 No, I'm usually fuming (or on occasion, laughing) when we lose Just felt nothing today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Losing quickly grows on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Knew we'd concede a header to Carroll, wasn't surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Every team now looks good against us and we can't even attack properly let alone defend decently. wtf is this crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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