And3rs0n Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 can someone give a different link to the tactic??? mediafire is down atm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 New defensive Tactic will be uploaded today. I can't promise that it will be better than this one but it certainly seems better for me in defence and attack so hopefully that will happen to you as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBlueEagle Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 New defensive Tactic will be uploaded today.I can't promise that it will be better than this one but it certainly seems better for me in defence and attack so hopefully that will happen to you as well. Trigger mass amount of posts asking "when will you release?" ;-) Great stuff Mr Hough, looking forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEO-BAHAMUT- Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Beautiful. Looking forward to testing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Changed the formation slightly to give me that extra stability in hard games against big opposition. What i might do is release 2 versions of this defence tactic. Here is what they both will look like. Normal Tactic - For All teams that are not Playing the top 4, Say if you are Wolves - Q.P.R - Norwich I would use this Tactic for the Majority of games but against Arsenal, Man Utd Tottenham.... Use The Other Version. Extra Defensive Tactic - Like i have said above, I have Tested with Wolves and even though i use 2 DM's this tactic is still very good going forward due to the attacking nature of the ST's As you can see the Defensive mature is there for you to see in 2 DM's now in the ME they do stay back and not go forward like the 1 CM, That is what i was after Especially in Away games when the opposition is more like to come at me. I will be uploading both these new tactics later on today I did want to post pictures but it looks like i have exceded my Limit on Photobucket, I'm not paying for Pro F*ck That! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Changed the formation slightly to give me that extra stability in hard games against big opposition. What i might do is release 2 versions of this defence tactic.Here is what they both will look like. Normal Tactic - For All teams that are not Playing the top 4, Say if you are Wolves - Q.P.R - Norwich I would use this Tactic for the Majority of games but against Arsenal, Man Utd Tottenham.... Use The Other Version. Extra Defensive Tactic - Like i have said above, I have Tested with Wolves and even though i use 2 DM's this tactic is still very good going forward due to the attacking nature of the ST's As you can see the Defensive mature is there for you to see in 2 DM's now in the ME they do stay back and not go forward like the 1 CM, That is what i was after Especially in Away games when the opposition is more like to come at me. I will be uploading both these new tactics later on today I did want to post pictures but it looks like i have exceded my Limit on Photobucket, I'm not paying for Pro F*ck That! use imageshack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Two DMs? Sounds promising, that formation would sooo fit my team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEO-BAHAMUT- Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Also when uploading.. Mr Hough try multiupload. That gives you 5-6 different download sites and is really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Changed the formation slightly to give me that extra stability in hard games against big opposition. What i might do is release 2 versions of this defence tactic.Hat! Mr. Hough.. Is god ideia "transform" the STR and STL in Wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
penza Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 am currently 3rd season and now it seems teams got used to the tactic, bought even stronger players but drawing too much and losing, gonna try to switch to another tactic and see how it goes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBlueEagle Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 am currently 3rd season and now it seems teams got used to the tactic, bought even stronger players but drawing too much and losing, gonna try to switch to another tactic and see how it goes... If you read a couple of posts up, Mr Hough is releasing a new tactic today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbithell1984 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I hope so because today is nearly over....LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hold up, so there is no new tactic which works for all teams, including the top 4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbithell1984 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I am hoping that Mr Hough uploads both new defensive tactics soon, really looking forward to trying them out!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I simply can't use the current tactic due to it's lack of effectiveness away from home. It truly is a liability. It's a shame because at home the tactic is great but away it is sometimes painful and infuriating to watch for me. I'm AC Milan and my away form is costing me so many games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMisBAD2010 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 well after raging so much at this tactic being crap in defence i tweaked it to be alot better imo with a decent team that i have now. won the league got to the champions league final and fa cup final lost to both man city and united... the ONLY teams that rly bother me in the prem now. but ive noticed pretty much every team now plays 4-2-3-1 formation against me and its to counter me and its working rly...but like EVERY team kinda pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamees691 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Ok I have had a good time with this tactic, I’m at the start of January in my 2nd season, and I have 20million to spend in the January transfer window. Where should i make the changes, I think I need new central midfield and a new right back but not sure who to sign anyone help me out? Will take all advice on-board. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage75020 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 well after raging so much at this tactic being crap in defence i tweaked it to be alot better imo with a decent team that i have now. won the league got to the champions league final and fa cup final lost to both man city and united... the ONLY teams that rly bother me in the prem now. but ive noticed pretty much every team now plays 4-2-3-1 formation against me and its to counter me and its working rly...but like EVERY team kinda pointless. can you give a link to upload your tactic please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 i'm using a 4-1-2-2-1 that i tweaked from your 4-1-2-3,i'm using man utd but the results are ridiclious,it's just far to easy,i'm 10 league games in,winning all 10,scoring 42 conceding 2,big results are beating chelsea at home 8-0 and just recently beat arsenal at home 7-0,all games i am just about in full domination. but the help i'm after and i know people in this thread will know,is team talks,as i am a new guy inexperienced at old trafford it's difficult to get positive reactions from players like rooney,vidic,carrick,the more senior high profile players,their morale is currently superb,an easy home game iam expected to win,i say agressive or sometimes assertative expect win,rooney for example goes negative and shuts off? even after a good win i passionately say well done,i get no response from him so do an individual praise and he shuts off,i'm finding it hard to get any slight positive reaction from most of the players. in my old save i was a highly rated manager and team talks were comfortable and always ended up with a positive reaction from players after team talk then a individual talk,any ideas or reccomendations what i can do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 i'm using a 4-1-2-2-1 that i tweaked from your 4-1-2-3,i'm using man utd but the results are ridiclious,it's just far to easy,i'm 10 league games in,winning all 10,scoring 42 conceding 2,big results are beating chelsea at home 8-0 and just recently beat arsenal at home 7-0,all games i am just about in full domination.but the help i'm after and i know people in this thread will know,is team talks,as i am a new guy inexperienced at old trafford it's difficult to get positive reactions from players like rooney,vidic,carrick,the more senior high profile players,their morale is currently superb,an easy home game iam expected to win,i say agressive or sometimes assertative expect win,rooney for example goes negative and shuts off? even after a good win i passionately say well done,i get no response from him so do an individual praise and he shuts off,i'm finding it hard to get any slight positive reaction from most of the players. in my old save i was a highly rated manager and team talks were comfortable and always ended up with a positive reaction from players after team talk then a individual talk,any ideas or reccomendations what i can do? Can you post the image from your formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 i'm using a 4-1-2-2-1 that i tweaked from your 4-1-2-3,i'm using man utd but the results are ridiclious,it's just far to easy,i'm 10 league games in,winning all 10,scoring 42 conceding 2,big results are beating chelsea at home 8-0 and just recently beat arsenal at home 7-0,all games i am just about in full domination.but the help i'm after and i know people in this thread will know,is team talks,as i am a new guy inexperienced at old trafford it's difficult to get positive reactions from players like rooney,vidic,carrick,the more senior high profile players,their morale is currently superb,an easy home game iam expected to win,i say agressive or sometimes assertative expect win,rooney for example goes negative and shuts off? even after a good win i passionately say well done,i get no response from him so do an individual praise and he shuts off,i'm finding it hard to get any slight positive reaction from most of the players. in my old save i was a highly rated manager and team talks were comfortable and always ended up with a positive reaction from players after team talk then a individual talk,any ideas or reccomendations what i can do? upload it mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 as people say on here you can win the title with the standard 4-4-2 with man utd,man city etc which i think is cr*p,this tactic just destroys the opposition big time,like i said a few tweaks to the mighty houghs 4-1-2-3 jobs a good one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasanowa Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 and... FA CUP 4th: !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 as people say on here you can win the title with the standard 4-4-2 with man utd,man city etc which i think is cr*p,this tactic just destroys the opposition big time,like i said a few tweaks to the mighty houghs 4-1-2-3 jobs a good one only change of formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayward Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Lol, there's 60 folk watching this thead right now! Come on Dave, we're all waiting, my poor Aberdeen team needs a kick... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrizzitD Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Keep telling him to not make promises he cant hold.... but oh well will be back looking tomorrow thank you again for the hard work you put into these Dave! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think it's better to just do surprise releases, then no one is expecting anything and won't moan about it I still don't really see any defensive problems with this tactic though.. might be because my squad is rather good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have been stunned by this tactic. Great job Mr. Hough!!! Took over Torino, in Serie B and achieved promotion first year. I was expected to finish 2nd, so it's not a big surprise but i completely destroyed opposition. I have not lost a game before i achieved the promotion. After that i used a lot of youngsters and lost and drew a few. This is 11 games into the second season right after being promoted. Both draws were really unlucky for me. Should have won both. You have to get the right players and make tweaks if they don't meet the requirements of the tactic. KUTGW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here is the Link to the More Defensive Tactic, I'm 6 and a half hours over my deadline because i was feeling poorly so went to be extremely early, Like 6.30 English Time so that's why i never released it last night. Now this isn't gonna make your defence superhero's or anything like that but it will provide some better stability in there and hopefully results like 2-1 and 3-1 will be more like 2-0 and 3-0. My main objective was to stop the Opposition scoring that annoying 1 goal when i have won the game 4/5-0, That's one of the most annoying things about the game for me, Hopefully i have done that. http://www.mediafire.com/file/75vymmsr25wlsyj/Mr Hough Rolls Back The Years FM12 Defensive Tweaked (Man Utd, Nov 2011).tac I am still working on a 2DM extra defensive tactic but that isn't ready yet so bear with me on that one. Thanks for the Support. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khoahq Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 What about TeamTalk ? Mr Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 What about TeamTalk ? Mr Hough I honestly do not have a clue about team talks, I use my assistant thats it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibasta18 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I honestly do not have a clue about team talks, I use my assistant thats it. match prep still the same attacking movement and high???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadsawee79 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Mr. Hough ... You are the superhero .. You are the best there is ... the best there was and the best there ever will be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teggit Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thanks Dave. I will try your new tactic today. Been using the old one and took over HSV(hamburger) when they were 15th in Dec, now 2nd in April. Only made one signing- Defoe who scores 2 goals every game and even gets a few headers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehanzeb Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Anyone else experiencing worse performance with the new tactic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Nope, not at all. Just beat Lyon 3:1 away with Hugo Lloris getting MoM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerni Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 First season with this tactic: Uploaded with ImageShack.us Pre-match with Real Madrid Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 only change of formation? no 4 or 5 tweaks i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 upload it mate only on houghs say so,it's basically his tactic but just my tweaks,so all credit goes to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Nope, not at all. Just beat Lyon 3:1 away with Hugo Lloris getting MoM. I am at work and cannot see the formation in the new tactic. Can you please post a screen with it? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 only on houghs say so,it's basically his tactic but just my tweaks,so all credit goes to him I have no problems at all mate if wanna upload it, I will have a look aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBlueEagle Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It's a 4-1-2-3 (1 DM, 2 MC and 3 central stikers) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 It's a 4-1-2-3 (1 DM, 2 MC and 3 central stikers) So, no formation change, just tweaks. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 heres the 4-1-2-2-1 tweak from houghs 4-1-2-3 it was a while when i tweaked so off the top of my head can't 100% remember them,but the width changed with team mentality and several changes to the fullbacks http://www.gamefront.com/files/21197145/4-1-2-2-1+tweak+from+mr+houghs+4-1-2-3%21%21+%28Man+Utd%2C+Dec+2011%29.tac ANY HELP OR ADVICE ON TEAM TALKS PLEASE,IJUST CAN NOT MAKE SENSE OR GET ANYTHING FROM THEM,ASSISTANT ONES END UP IN PLAYERS HAVING BAD REACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 heres the 4-1-2-2-1 tweak from houghs 4-1-2-3it was a while when i tweaked so off the top of my head can't 100% remember them,but the width changed with team mentality and several changes to the fullbacks Just to confirm, is the striker still the main goalscorer like in Mr Houghs versions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Cheers Hough - have downloaded the new tactic and will try it out later tonight. Will keep you update on progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Just to confirm, is the striker still the main goalscorer like in Mr Houghs versions? amr valencia has 9 from 18 starts and 1 sub appearance,nani 0 from 5 aml wellbeck 3 from 8 starts and 7 sub appearances,young 9 from 14 starts and 2 sub appearances sc rooney 19 from 17 starts and 3 sub appearances,hernandez 22 from 6 starts and 14 sub appearances(super sub) so yes the striker grabs a majority of the goals but the players i play in amr and aml get a decent amount too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iocounty Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 i'm having a very basic problem.... how do you switch between tactics? i now have both tactics in my match prep, but i'm not cear on how to select which one i want to use for different games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBlueEagle Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Click the little triangle "play" button which makes it the starting tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibasta18 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 heres the 4-1-2-2-1 tweak from houghs 4-1-2-3it was a while when i tweaked so off the top of my head can't 100% remember them,but the width changed with team mentality and several changes to the fullbacks http://www.gamefront.com/files/21197145/4-1-2-2-1+tweak+from+mr+houghs+4-1-2-3%21%21+%28Man+Utd%2C+Dec+2011%29.tac ANY HELP OR ADVICE ON TEAM TALKS PLEASE,IJUST CAN NOT MAKE SENSE OR GET ANYTHING FROM THEM,ASSISTANT ONES END UP IN PLAYERS HAVING BAD REACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! what match prep you reccome??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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