trueblue Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Havent seen any threads on this guy, and as he has been a regular goal scorer for me later on in the game (Season 7), thought I would give him a thread. I paid around 4mil i think for him direct from his real life club of Newcastle, however that was a few seasons in, and as you can see now in my 7th he still only 22 ,,,so he could well be a real snip early on before he develops. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has tried him,, he signed for Newcastle youth team a year ago from plymouth Argyle , and was dubbed as a new wayne roony, (another one) ,, So as the toon no that flush presently we might even see him make an appearance in a season or so in real life,, who knows. In game he scores regular for my gers,, i have used him mainly as a poacher and as an advanced forward ,, tho he has pretty much got goals in all forward roles,, you can see from his stats first team and the reserve ones that he is fairly prolific Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEinchy Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I've been tempted to use him on occasion however I've never seen him turn out very well under AI. In that shot he looks quite good. Looks to be a strong and difficult to handle striker, like a Scottish Drogba I suppose. Mentally though he looks quite average. Perhpas if you get him early enough they can develop better. Might give him a crack in my next save game. He's a -9, isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmason122 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I played a game as Newcastle manager, and got 6 seasons in and currently he rotates with Milevyski upfront, he's pretty good of your patient with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGougan33 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I dont think his pa is that high JEinchy - doesnt develop well in any of my games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batty1 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I dont think his pa is that high JEinchy - doesnt develop well in any of my games JEinchy is right his pa is -9 . Poor managment on your part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGougan33 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Haha no doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamzarie Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 One of my favourite striker in my dons... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batty1 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Jesus, he looks great there Hamzarie, what training did you have him on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamzarie Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Jesus, he looks great there Hamzarie, what training did you have him on? I use Dan's Training before.. but now im using Sfazer's Training.... He is so good... Now he is regular England's striker... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGougan33 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Is sfrasers training better than tugs then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batty1 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Is sfrasers training better than tugs then? I'm using it and tbh I think it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Robbie Rob Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to do individual training schedules for each player, simply because so many have different stats. There are fast defenders, strong defenders, passing defenders and weaker/slower defenders, each one will need different training schedules to train to their weaknesses. I often find with other people's training schedules they go from one extreme to another and there is little out there that provides training to make 'complete' players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile Ranger #30 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Who would be a good tutor for this guy if I were to start as Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Looking at his stats it's hard to see any strikers at Newcastle who would be good tutors for him. Having said that, had a look at him in 2014 - he was shocking. Only worth £1million. Does he usually explode and become immense after that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Woah, his international record is amazing on hamarie's screenshot ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Who would be a good tutor for this guy if I were to start as Newcastle? If you retrain Alan Smith as striker (which shouldn't take long), he would be a good choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 An AI-developed Spear in the game. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 If you retrain Alan Smith as striker (which shouldn't take long), he would be a good choice. sadly this dont seam all that good anymore with smith now siting on the "stay back at all time" ppmwill be intresting to see what i can get out of this kid on the new patch, i bet the first task would be to find a fitting mentor, a striker with good mental stats, break offside trap....and no pointless ppm's..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setsuna Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I hope he picks Scotland over England in a few years time if he's as good in real life as he is in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Wow, he can become a top-class striker, certainly has done in some games on here. Still at Newcastle (who I have just taken over) in my game in 2016 and scored some important goals in keeping us up at the end of last season. Never really considered him first choice. Might give him a shot now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Has his PA/CA been adjusted or anything in the latest patch because he looks immense in a few of the screenshots posted in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokey1988 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Don't think so. He was a -9 on 10.2 and he still is on 10.3. His CA on my 10.3 game was about 68 or something like that, so you have to put in the work to make him world class. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflection22 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 He looks pretty awesome on my game at 18. I just signed him for my Hibernian team in January 2012, I've already got Lukaku, Kadlec, Neymar and Liedson though so he'll be 5th choice for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Bringing this thread back from the dead to show him off to you all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc1 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 ^^^ Nice work mate. Looks top class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I was searching for a Ivica Olic replacement and I think I found the one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 What training did you have him on there Sam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilo_G Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Surprised he hasn't scored more goals with such high finishing and composure. To think he still has a couple of years to improve is scary. Well done! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1892 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 When did you introduce him into the first team? I'm currently starting season 3 with Newcastle and I'm wondering whether to loan him out or have him as back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 When did you introduce him into the first team? I'm currently starting season 3 with Newcastle and I'm wondering whether to loan him out or have him as back up. if you are to stand any chanse in evolving this guy you need to keep him on rotation in your first team, otherwise he wont get the match expriance and mentoring needed to evolve (he needs alot work to be half decent...even if the potential surly is there) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 What training did you have him on there Sam? My own training schedules, featuring high physical training, high tactics training, high ball control training and low defending training (as strikers really don't need any of the defensive attributes imo). Of course the key to his development is first team football though; and the fact that he must be just about at the top of his variable PA. Also, Newcastle now have nearly all the best coaches on the game and maximum training facilities. Surprised he hasn't scored more goals with such high finishing and composure. To think he still has a couple of years to improve is scary. Well done! ha, he has a very successful season in 2015/2016. Screenies below When did you introduce him into the first team? I'm currently starting season 3 with Newcastle and I'm wondering whether to loan him out or have him as back up. I tried to introduce him first season, but I just couldn't as I'd already completely changed my Newcastle squad with weaker but younger players. I had to focus on their development and getting promoted as a priority. 1st season in the PL I didn't play him at all, due to trying to survive with my very inexperienced squad. 3rd season however, he got some games, bagging 6 goals in 11(11) appearances. Not great, I know, but his attributes were still very low. 4th season he got less games but more goals, and he was starting to improve more with the training I had him on and with the coaches I was brining in. In the 2014-2015 season he properly broke into the first team though. In 2015-16 he'd nearly reached his full potential and was bagging the goals for fun, finishing top scorer in the premier league. Here he is a season later than the earlier screenshot I posted: and here's his history: I'm especially proud of his shots on target stats for both seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Sweet, always gets a alright PA on my game though and turns out mediocre. Would love to be able to make him good but it looks like a lot of effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 It wasn't that much effort I suppose. I wanted him to play for England (whom I'm manager of in the game) too, so there was plenty of motivation I probably could've given him more game time in the championship, but I find players don't progress very well in that league at all unless they are performing really well. Advice would be just to give him 10-15 games a season until he becomes decent. Then stick him in the first team as a poacher and watch him improve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I think it's a little late for me anyway, I'm in the 2013/2014 season with Leverkusen so I can only imagine newcastle have ruined him. Also just looked at his PA and it's a decent 166 He hasn't even got great ambition or professionalism so I can't be asked to develop him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisy Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Looks okay in my game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1892 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Pity he's Scottish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanH91 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I've started a new game with Newcastle, and one of my aims is to get our youngsters developed to the best of my ability. Spear and Vuckic are probably the best of the lot, will post some screenshots of Spear as he progresses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rmat Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 He's English actually - just eligable for Scotland if he happens to choose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonming Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I got this guy for 250k then sold him later at 25million to udinese over a contract dispute. He was scoring lots of goals for me and is a great prospect. The fans were up in arms against me but i figured, better to lose him for 25million in 2021 then for free. Right now, ritchie rutter is doing a great job for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Luria Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I like him as he's currently training under Andres Iniesta and Xavi. He can really be a star if you give him a lot of training and support. He is currently getting ready to go on loan for $8 million at ManUtd. If he improves will first team time, I think he'll sell for a quarter or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilo_G Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Shouldn't cost much at all, even though he is a decent prospect, Newcastle are abundant with strikers. Barcelona or Real Madrid are usually interested from the start of the game. Haris Vuckic attracts a bit of interest from a couple of big clubs, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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