Harryseaess Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 As we all know, he has played upfront a few times this season, so does that mean that in FM10 he will have the striker position as accomplished? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Major Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Probably competent. He didn't really play well up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmytom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 He played their as a youngster so I really think he should be competent at least. Then again...Glen Johnson was a youth striker, I don't think he is a striker with any conviction on FM? But yeah, he has played upfront this year, an FM give the player the place they play in their club sides normally, so its more than likely. Gary Doherty is still a CB/FC right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay thanks guys. IIRC, Rio Ferdinand was a striker at youth level but I don't think this is shown on FM09 is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmytom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I dont believe it is. I kind of wonder why, but then again, imagine the nightmare of tracing back through to see where every player played at youth level! Rio's handy finishing should be enough to see him through. Is Rooney still partly classed as a keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The answer will depend on the Blacburn researcher- you can ask in the Blacburn thread in the Data Issues forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckers4 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The perfect example of this is Jamie Carragher. He was the top scoring striker in his younger days and now he couldnt hit a barn door with a banjo. Samba should be able to play there in emergencies but like someone pointed out, he hasnt been that good whilst playing up front. If he had banged in 10 goals then i would expect him to have that position as accomplished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 The answer will depend on the Blacburn researcher- you can ask in the Blacburn thread in the Data Issues forumOkay mate thanks, I will do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay thanks guys. IIRC, Rio Ferdinand was a striker at youth level but I don't think this is shown on FM09 is it? Just to be pedantic, but I thought he was a midfielder. Seem to remember Harry Rednapp saying in an interview he was told by his youth coach at West Ham that he "had to come watch the best midfielder to come through the academy". Wasn't Joe Cole a striker, tipped as "the new Michael Owen"? Stevie G was a DMC originally, and although he can still technically play that position, he's more of an AMC now. And I seem to recall Roy Keane was a DC at Forest. Interesting - how many players swap positions and make them their own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Just had a look and wikipedia says that Rio was a AMC. I'm not sure about the other players though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockney Hammer Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Samba has been doing rubbish there really. Glen Johnson used to be a striker for us when he was in his very young youth days but Tony Carr thought he was better right back. Cant argue with the man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wasn't Ashley Cole a striker in his early days at Arsenal as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmack Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Most top class centre backs played as centre forwards in the youth set ups of their respective clubs, because they were massive and all the 16 year old defenders couldn't touch them. They should all be competent at playing a very simplistic type of forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubey84 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Earmack is correct. Sol Campbell was actually a striker for the entirity of his youth, before reverting to centre-half. And it was simply because he was bloody huge. Samba and any centre-half in that ilk that is used in that role for any reason should have the ability "Ineffectual" because they generally are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyFun Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Michael Carrick started as a striker before going to West Ham iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobbo12 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Nando Torres was a keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubey84 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Nando Torres was a keeper Yeah I can imagine he'd like handling balls to be honest... ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satanasangel Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Fabian Barthez was originally a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yeah I can imagine he'd like handling balls to be honest... ^^ Fantastic Quite a few players change positions, Samba isn't one of them. He is filling in a gap that no one else can fill, and not doing a great job imo. Like said before, ineffectual would be best for him. Certainly not accomplished, as this suggests he is almost natural there. Which he, quite clearly, isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Then again...Glen Johnson was a youth striker, I don't think he is a striker with any conviction on FM? I didn't know that. I knew he played centre back for the West Ham youth team, was it before that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Gary Neville played central midfield for Man United's youth team (featuring Scholes, Butt, Beckham and Savage). He even took the free kicks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmytom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I didn't know that. I knew he played centre back for the West Ham youth team, was it before that? Aye, I believe so. I either read it in a back issue of FourFourTwo or saw it just prior to the Liverpool West Ham game on Setanta recently. Either way, I can just about confirm that as fact. (I think its been mentioned above that Tony Carr, (if he is the West Ham academy fella) was the man who switched him to the defensive role.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternhawk2 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Theo Walcott was a goalkeeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Someone beat me to Sol Campbell, I remember he scored a great goal for Arsenal from a 20-30 yards from goal not too long ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmytom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think this is an argument for players that come to your Under 19's having no true natural position, but you have to assign them one when they first come through to your squad. I hate that in long term games, every defender in the lower English leagues has: 13 tackling 13 marking 13 heading Or there abouts. Surely there would be the occasional one that can really finish too, I mean, they weren't all born as complete defenders only, surely? I could make a big argument for this, but, I think the member Dave C did a fair while ago (haven't seen him recently, is there a name change or what have I missed?) and plus I really should be revising... I did an addictive behaviour exam a few weeks ago and cited that FM is my personal addiction satisfying many of the clinical research criteria. Damn you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieKins Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Gomes was a striker untill he was 18. He went to a tournament with his youth team and they had no goalkeeper so he filled in. Funny the useless information watching Barclays Premier League World gives you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 just because samba gets chucked up front due to his physical ability and size it doesn't mean hes any good as a striker. so i dont believe he should have any rating for a striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpunk Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 just because samba gets chucked up front due to his physical ability and size it doesn't mean hes any good as a striker. so i dont believe he should have any rating for a striker Maybe ineffectual would be more appropriate? Seeing as he has spent some time playing there but has overall been 'ineffectual' in a strikers duties - scoring goals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 john terry and ledley king were both all action box to box midfielders in their youth. pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The answer will depend on the Blacburn researcher- you can ask in the Blacburn thread in the Data Issues forum As FrazT says that is the place for discussion of this type, therefore closing this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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