UNVEILED: The final 2022 World Cup squads

[GunmaN1905]

Just now, DJ said:

No Cillissen, no Flekken. Surprising. 

I guess LvG is sticking with 3 at the back system?

Something like:

Timber-De Ligt-VvD at the back

Dumfries/Hateboer and Malacia/Blind as wingbacks

De Jong and Koopmeiners should start in the middle?

And front three seems random. Gakpo is in the best form, with Depay being the highest reputation player. Third one is questionable? Maybe Bergwijn?

Or just stick another midfielder and go with 3-5-2?

[DJ]

Yes, that seems to be the idea. De Vrij may be ahead of de Ligt though. 

[GunmaN1905]

No Thiago, as expected.

Did Ramos retire from NT? He's also not on the list.

Edited November 11, 2022 by GunmaN1905

[Barry Cartman]

2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Did Ramos retire from NT? He's also not on the list.

but experience ffs!!

[Astafjevs]

Luis Enrique didn't pick him for the Euros when he raced back from injury, so although not officially retired he is until the coach changes. Like De Gea

[GunmaN1905]

Chosen people just released their list in cyrillic only, here's the translation.

Spoiler

Goalkeepers:
Marko Dmitrović,  Predrag Rajković, Vanja Milinković-Savić

Defenders:
Stefan Mitrović,  Nikola Milenković, Strahinja Pavlović, Miloš Veljković, Filip Mladenović, Strahinja Eraković, Srđan Babić

Midfielders:
Nemanja Gudelj, Sergej Milinković-Savić, Saša Lukić, Marko Grujić, Filip Kostić, Uroš Račić, Nemanja Maksimović, Ivan Ilić, Andrija Živković, Darko Lazović

Forwards:
Dušan Tadić, Aleksandar Mitrović, Dušan Vlahović, Filip Đuričić, Luka Jović, Nemanja Radonjić

[DJ]

Hummels not selected. According to the Postillon (German version of the Onion) he doesn't care. They 'quote' him saying he wanted to boycott Qatar anyway  

[Jeroen Thijssen]

32 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

I guess LvG is sticking with 3 at the back system?

Something like:

Timber-De Ligt-VvD at the back

Dumfries/Hateboer and Malacia/Blind as wingbacks

De Jong and Koopmeiners should start in the middle?

And front three seems random. Gakpo is in the best form, with Depay being the highest reputation player. Third one is questionable? Maybe Bergwijn?

Or just stick another midfielder and go with 3-5-2?

No Hateboer - Frimpong.

Depay is not fit to start for the first 1-2 games

 

 

[Smallen]

How come Thiago doesn't make the Spain squad?

[Barry Cartman]

No Gerard Moreno either, Enrique doesn't give a **** about experience 

[EnterUsernameHere]

9 minutes ago, Smallen said:

How come Thiago doesn't make the Spain squad?

Luis Enrique doesn't seem to be a fan, barely used him at the last Euros and rarely calls him up.

[adhikapp]

6 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:

No Gerard Moreno either, Enrique doesn't give a **** about experience 

He has Busquets and Alba who both are not so good anymore. Alba's not even a starter for Barcelona these days.

[pearcey_90]

If Enrique wasn't in charge, Ramos would be homing in on 200 caps More than some people play club football.

[Smallen]

Just now, EnterUsernameHere said:

Luis Enrique doesn't seem to be a fan, barely used him at the last Euros and rarely calls him up.

Bizarre. 

[Barry Cartman]

1 minute ago, adhikapp said:

He has Busquets and Alba who both are not so good anymore. Alba's not even a starter for Barcelona these days.

Alba has started 7 of the last 8 La Liga games 

[EnterUsernameHere]

1 minute ago, Smallen said:

Bizarre. 

Aye. He's always been his own stubborn man, for better or worse.

Spain are stacked in midfield though anyway so shouldn't matter too much.

[Astafjevs]

He seems like a Luis Enrique midfielder so is a bit surprising 

[Darius1998]

Flekken completely missing out for Netherlands seems a little surprising.

As for Spain, nice to see Nico Williams make it. Iñaki switched to Ghana right?

[Rob1981]

42 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Chosen people just released their list in cyrillic only, here's the translation.

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Goalkeepers:
Marko Dmitrović,  Predrag Rajković, Vanja Milinković-Savić

Defenders:
Stefan Mitrović,  Nikola Milenković, Strahinja Pavlović, Miloš Veljković, Filip Mladenović, Strahinja Eraković, Srđan Babić

Midfielders:
Nemanja Gudelj, Sergej Milinković-Savić, Saša Lukić, Marko Grujić, Filip Kostić, Uroš Račić, Nemanja Maksimović, Ivan Ilić, Andrija Živković, Darko Lazović

Forwards:
Dušan Tadić, Aleksandar Mitrović, Dušan Vlahović, Filip Đuričić, Luka Jović, Nemanja Radonjić

Serbia such a weird side. All that history in the old Yugoslavia days and still keep turning up and looking alright in qualifying. Yet I have almost no memory of them even being there in 2010 and 2018.

[skybluedave]

Yeah and I'm no expert but that looks like a decent squad for Serbia. I feel like they are usually tipped as some kind of dark horse but just bottle it in group stage 

[GunmaN1905]

13 minutes ago, Rob1981 said:

Serbia such a weird side. All that history in the old Yugoslavia days and still keep turning up and looking alright in qualifying. Yet I have almost no memory of them even being there in 2010 and 2018.

For 20 years, they've been a textbook example of FA led by shady people and agents, always with internal issues and poor chemistry, despite having quality.

This is probably their best team (key word) in 20 years and I really expect them to make it out of the group.

Edited November 11, 2022 by GunmaN1905

[Barry Cartman]

This is both heartwarming and at the same time seemingly an amateurish way of finding out you're in a world cup squad 

[georginho_juventusygr]

Where is Roberto Mancini's squad?

[skybluedave]

On holiday

[PMLF]

Argentine squad:

[GunmaN1905]

Joaquin Correa? No comment.

Like what does he even do? Absolutely useless. Hopefully he gets some minutes and an EPL team buys him.

[skybluedave]

What's Argentina's likely starting line up?

[Harryseaess]

There's only one real good team/squad and that's Brazil. Will be a bit of a bottlejob if they don't win it.

[Smallen]

Everyone is going to want to sign Enzo Fernandez after this tournament

[Harryseaess]

35 minutes ago, PMLF said:

Argentine squad:

That's crap. If there wasn't the Messi bias everyone would be saying that's an awful squad.

[Constantine]

3 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Chosen people just released their list in cyrillic only, here's the translation.

  Reveal hidden contents

Goalkeepers:
Marko Dmitrović,  Predrag Rajković, Vanja Milinković-Savić

Defenders:
Stefan Mitrović,  Nikola Milenković, Strahinja Pavlović, Miloš Veljković, Filip Mladenović, Strahinja Eraković, Srđan Babić

Midfielders:
Nemanja Gudelj, Sergej Milinković-Savić, Saša Lukić, Marko Grujić, Filip Kostić, Uroš Račić, Nemanja Maksimović, Ivan Ilić, Andrija Živković, Darko Lazović

Forwards:
Dušan Tadić, Aleksandar Mitrović, Dušan Vlahović, Filip Đuričić, Luka Jović, Nemanja Radonjić

Heavenly people, I beg your pardon.

Pretty much as expected. I'd perhaps take Mihailo Ristic over Filip Mladenovic/Uros Racic but that's about it.

And we aren't getting past the group stage. As usual, **** always hits the fan before every big competition (if we qualify at all) and it's already started. We should have had elections in FA, to choose a new president, since our former president/smuggler from the good old days got removed from office. Officially, at least. Bjekovic, ex president of Partizan tried to fix it up so only he could be elected and few days ago he was supposed to be confirmed as new president but Crvena zvezda intervened so it all stopped. And who's supposed to be new presidential candidate? A former footballer? Former coach, someone who has ties with football? Nope, a former minister of agriculture and close pal with our overlord, Aleksandar Vucic. It's all laughable and some cruel, bloody joke. I'm so tired of this ****, man...

[buffalo]

4 hours ago, DJ said:

No Cillissen, no Flekken. Surprising. 

it's a bit surprising that Lang is in the squad, especially as he's not very fortunate in his season for Club Brugge so far (also maybe due to the fact he didn't get a transfer deal)

 

[buffalo]

3 hours ago, Darius1998 said:

Flekken completely missing out for Netherlands seems a little surprising.

As for Spain, nice to see Nico Williams make it. Iñaki switched to Ghana right?

as far as I know he's been named in the provisional Ghana squad, so let's wait and see if he makes it as well, would be nice

(maybe I missed the Ghana squad so if I did my apologies)

[Jeroen Thijssen]

13 minutes ago, buffalo said:

it's a bit surprising that Lang is in the squad, especially as he's not very fortunate in his season for Club Brugge so far (also maybe due to the fact he didn't get a transfer deal)

 

Yeah, many people were expecting Danjuma (Groeneveld) ahead of Noa Lang.
Noa has shown to be able to create something in a short space of time. Not that Danjuma can't do that - but I guess it adds to it. He does have a very determined attitude as well - looking at things positively.

[Harryseaess]

19 minutes ago, buffalo said:

it's a bit surprising that Lang is in the squad, especially as he's not very fortunate in his season for Club Brugge so far (also maybe due to the fact he didn't get a transfer deal)

 

His attitude stinks though doesn't it?

[buffalo]

4 minutes ago, Jeroen Thijssen said:

Yeah, many people were expecting Danjuma (Groeneveld) ahead of Noa Lang.
Noa has shown to be able to create something in a short space of time. Not that Danjuma can't do that - but I guess it adds to it. He does have a very determined attitude as well - looking at things positively.

yeah can see how he's a player that does have something that others don't have

[buffalo]

Just now, Harryseaess said:

His attitude stinks though doesn't it?

he's the kind of player the media and opposing fans love to hate for some reason

can also see it as a compliment

[Astafjevs]

1 hour ago, skybluedave said:

What's Argentina's likely starting line up?

Based on what I've seen, something like:

E Martínez; Molina, Romero, Otamendi, Tagliafico; Di María, De Paul, Paredes, Rodríguez; Messi, Lautaro Martínez

 

Unsure about rightback, that's seemed interchangeable. And I don't know who he's going to use to replace Lo Celso. He filled a kind of unique role as a left midfielder that can play inside. Like Matuidi for France and Juve a few years ago.

[Barry Cartman]

1 hour ago, Smallen said:

Everyone is going to want to sign Enzo Fernandez after this tournament

Yeah if he gets game time he'll be at Utd or Liverpool by the summer 

[GunmaN1905]

8 minutes ago, Astafjevs said:

Based on what I've seen, something like:

E Martínez; Molina, Romero, Otamendi, Tagliafico; Di María, De Paul, Paredes, Rodríguez; Messi, Lautaro Martínez

 

Unsure about rightback, that's seemed interchangeable. And I don't know who he's going to use to replace Lo Celso. He filled a kind of unique role as a left midfielder that can play inside. Like Matuidi for France and Juve a few years ago.

Molina should start as RB, Montiel is the backup.

Even though every lineup says 4-4-2, it was always more of some kind of asymetrical 4-3-3.

As you said, Lo Celso is a big loss. it's hard to guess who will replace him.

Paredes is a holding midfielder, much like Guido Rodriguez. More or less the same type of player.

Paredes pretty much didn't do anything this season, so Rodriguez should start, with De Paul being second of the three.

Enzo Fernandez looked great for Benfica, but he's only 21. Mac Allister seems unlikely, as does starting another winger in Nico Gonzalez.

Maybe Scaloni doubles the left flank with Acuna, he's also a high work rate player and not a natural LB.

[EnterUsernameHere]

2 hours ago, Harryseaess said:

That's crap. If there wasn't the Messi bias everyone would be saying that's an awful squad.

They play well as a team though. 

No point having individuals that France/England etc do when their coach holds them back.

[Jeroen Thijssen]

They won the Copa America so they can't be all that bad.

[GunmaN1905]

13 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

They play well as a team though. 

No point having individuals that France/England etc do when their coach holds them back.

Over the past year, they've been by far the best team out of any NT.

They've got a great keeper, solid to quality defenders which look great in their system, quality midfield that complements the attack well and no other NT has the front trio that's even close to theirs in terms of chemistry and production.

Post-covid they have 18-5-0 in official matches and we all know how much more difficult South American qualifiers are.

With all the injuries, England's squad isn't even that good. People can laugh at Otamendi starting, but I'm taking Molina-Romero-Otamendi-Tagliafico over TAA-Stones-Maguire-Shaw any day of the week. Pickford or Martinez? De Paul-Guido Rodriguez-Enzo Fernandez or Mount-Rice-Bellingham? Di Maria-Lautaro-Messi or Foden-Kane-Sterling? Where's that quality difference England has?

Oh yeah, I forgot how EPL players are automatically 50% better than players from other leagues.

Edited November 11, 2022 by GunmaN1905

[EnterUsernameHere]

8 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Over the past year, they've been by far the best team out of any NT.

They've got a great keeper, solid to quality defenders which look great in their system, quality midfield that complements the attack well and no other NT has the front trio that's even close to theirs in terms of chemistry and production.

Post-covid they have 18-5-0 in official matches and we all know how much more difficult South American qualifiers are.

With all the injuries, England's squad isn't even that good. People can laugh at Otamendi starting, but I'm taking Molina-Romero-Otamendi-Tagliafico over TAA-Stones-Maguire-Shaw any day of the week. Pickford or Martinez? De Paul-Guido Rodriguez-Enzo Fernandez or Mount-Rice-Bellingham? Di Maria-Lautaro-Messi or Foden-Kane-Sterling? Where's that quality difference England has?

Oh yeah, I forgot how EPL players are automatically 50% better than players from other leagues.

Yeah I have them as slight favourites over Brazil so you're preaching to the choir.

[skybluedave]

Who said England were better? 

[GunmaN1905]

Just now, skybluedave said:

Who said England were better? 

Maybe not specifically England, but people keep talking as if Argentina's team is a bunch of peasants and Messi.

 

[PMLF]

51 minutes ago, Jeroen Thijssen said:

They won the Copa America so they can't be all that bad.

Beat Brazil in Brazil in the final too, which is not too easy.

[Harryseaess]

1 hour ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

They play well as a team though. 

No point having individuals that France/England etc do when their coach holds them back.

Yeah that’s fair, can’t say I’ve watched them for ages. Just don’t seem very strong on paper as a group of individuals.

[PMLF]

Squad of Qatar:

Their whole squad play in Qatar. If only the whole Brazilian squad played in Brazil...

Edited November 11, 2022 by PMLF

[pearcey_90]

2 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Over the past year, they've been by far the best team out of any NT.

They've got a great keeper, solid to quality defenders which look great in their system, quality midfield that complements the attack well and no other NT has the front trio that's even close to theirs in terms of chemistry and production.

Post-covid they have 18-5-0 in official matches and we all know how much more difficult South American qualifiers are.

With all the injuries, England's squad isn't even that good. People can laugh at Otamendi starting, but I'm taking Molina-Romero-Otamendi-Tagliafico over TAA-Stones-Maguire-Shaw any day of the week. Pickford or Martinez? De Paul-Guido Rodriguez-Enzo Fernandez or Mount-Rice-Bellingham? Di Maria-Lautaro-Messi or Foden-Kane-Sterling? Where's that quality difference England has?

Oh yeah, I forgot how EPL players are automatically 50% better than players from other leagues.

Argentina are a well coached side, that minimise the weaknesses, but England do have loads of players that are/have excelled in Europe in past few seasons.