The FM23 Youth Academy Challenge

darren1983 · October 20, 2022

Welcome back everyone!!

Well another year has passed and we're back at this insane challenge

This is the new incarnation of the Youth Academy Challenge started by ri916 and continued by Braumiller before I picked it up. This new thread will also play host to people that are starting on older versions if they want, just easier to keep people active even if not on latest version. Please let me know if you’re playing on an older version though.

The Aim
To win your chosen countries' top division and win the Champions League of your continent with a previously unplayable club using only your academy as a way of acquiring new players - this mean NO TRANSFERS of any kind. No buying back former players. Even on a free. No loans not even as part of a deal to sell your player.

The Available Countries
Previously any Country in Europe was eligible as long as you can get a previously unplayable side promoted from Holidaying, however from last couple of years we were happy to extended it to the rest of the world as well as long as the team meets the criteria of being previously unplayable and that is the same this year. Custom leagues will be allowed from now on however if you complete the challenge on a custom DB we'll list your achievement with note to say it was done on a custom DB because we have no way of verifying the DB. Not all leagues are able to be used though so please ask in thread, by tagging myself and/or XaW, to check before you start.

Helpful Information
There is often lots of speculation about what impacts the youth intake and what you as a player can do in order to get the best intake you can and the below is the information we have thanks to @Seb Wassell (sorry for the notification here mate)

Newgens & Youth Intake

Youth Recruitment
The Club’s recruiting of Juniors, those of home and foreign origin.

Youth Facilities
The training facilities available for Juniors (only).
Does NOT apply to visible players already at the club. All visible players currently at the club use Training Facilities regardless of age.

Junior Coaching
The quality and quantity of Junior Coaches at the Club.

Nation Youth Rating
The potential maximum quality and quantity of Juniors produced in that Nation.

Game Importance
How important football is considered to be in that Nation.

Producing Newgens
The Clubs with the best Youth Recruitment will generally pick up the best Junior talent from that Nation first, the scale of that talent being determined by the Nation Youth Rating and Game Importance. The lower the Youth Recruitment the further down the pecking order a club will find itself. Two clubs with identical Youth Recruitment will be sorted by Club Reputation. Being lower down this pecking order does not mean quality Newgens cannot be produced, it simply lowers the chances.

Youth Facilities and Junior Coaching then simulate and determine how that Junior progresses in the Club’s Junior system until a Newgen is produced and appears in game. It is at this point that the Current Ability (CA) and Potential Ability (PA) of the newgens are decided. The above factors all contribute to both CA and PA equally.

Head of Youth Development (HoYD)
The club’s HoYD is responsible for bringing Newgens into the club. He will influence what “type” of players are selected and can partially or fully pass on his personality to some of these Newgens. The “type” of players selected refers to a player’s position and style, for instance a HoYD with a preferred 4-5-1 formation and a Technical Coaching Style may produce more technically styled midfielders than another HoYD.
The HoYD will also influence the rare “freak” or exceptional Newgens that come through, modifying their ability and style.
This role is filled by the HoYD by default, however if none is employed whichever staff member is set to be responsible for youth development will fill this role.

Youth Intake Preview

In FM22 the Development Centre will provide a preview of the upcoming youth intake ahead of the day itself.
This preview will provide some information on the general quality of the intake, positions that are either blessed with or lacking in quality and any other notable highlights.
Currently it seems we DON'T get an inbox item for when poaching other teams players happens, but we instead get in an extra player in the first possible intake. Not ideal, and I hope SI will fix it, but at least it's possible to see after the player appears so worth checking how many players come through - it's usually 16 so any more than that and you've likely got a poached player in your intake

Junior Player Poaching

It is possible for Juniors to be poached from another club's youth system. This will most commonly occur from smaller reputation club > larger reputation club.
When this occurs a inbox item is received, offering a few details (similar to that of the Youth Intake Preview) on the player that has been poached. Poached players will appear in the next appropriate youth intake.

Known Issues

There are some known issues in some countries that people should be aware about before they start games in those leagues. If anyone has anymore than please tag me (and link me to the bug report) and let me know and I'll add to this:

Belgium - In the lower levels here there is an issue with clubs losing way too much money for their level. As a result clubs will often find themselves in big debt really early on making it hard/nearly impossible to improve facilities

Scotland - Once again there is an issue with youth teams in Scotland where you can't sign U18 staff , can't delegate it to your DoF. You can't ask your assistant or Hoyd about training updates (u18) or let them arrange friendlies . And you can't move players from A team to U18 team , once a player is in your senior team , he can't be moved.

The Reset Dates
(Dates will appear when they have been confirmed for FM22 so please tag me when you know and if the country you pick isn't listed below just let me know the reset date and I'll add it)

Some leagues (any you find please let me know) don't have relegation for the firsts season so if you want to play in those leagues you will be required to holiday for 2 seasons. Norway for example the top two tiers run the first season and without relegation in the lowest one. Holidaying a season will make the other leagues start as normal season 2. So holidaying through that will allow the normal promotion to the 3rd tier. The reason for this is that all amateur football has been suspended this season in real life.

Also as of FM21 (I think it was) the sides that are picked to be promoted from the unplayable leagues are no longer picked the day before the league reset so we now have to holiday to a point usually a few weeks before the league reset. Save there and then holiday to the league reset in order to get different teams.

Holland - there is now no relegation from the bottom tier of Holland which is why they are currently not used for FM23.

South Korea - Same as Holland really, relegation has been postponed in Korea again so this country is not used for FM23

Andorra -

Argentina - January 1st

Austria - June 14th. Save on May 29th for different teams

Belarus

Belgium - June 30th. Save 1st April for different teams

Bulgaria - June 18th. Save May 15th for different teams

Brazil -

Chile - January 11th

China -

Croatia - June 20th. Save May 20th for different teams.

Czech Republic - June 30th. Save 28th May for different teams

Denmark - June 30th. Save on 11th June for different teams

England - June 25th. Save on May 29th to get different teams.

Faroe Islands - 20th January 2023.

Finland - December 17th

France - June 20th

Germany - June 20th. For different teams to be promoted, make a save around June 6th

Greece -

Hungry - June 20th. the best way to select a team is to holiday until the final match day of the 2nd tier (May 21st) and then save. After the game is played a relegation playoff between 3 teams from the 2nd tier and 3 from the unplayable division is set up. At that point, look at the teams and find if you want one, then save scum them to winning the playoffs. Then holiday until June 20th and take over the team.

Iceland - 25th November. Save on September 25th for different teams

Indonesia -

Israel - 20th of June

Italy - 30th June. Save on May 28th for different teams.

Lebanon - 26th June. Save on May 6th for different teams.

Mexico - June 10. To get different teams save May 28th.

Northern Ireland - June 25th. Save on May10th for different teams.

Norway - January 13th.

Poland - June 28th. Save May 27th for different teams.

Portugal - June 30th

Romania -

Scotland - June 25th. Save on May 6th and then holiday one more day and see who is in the promotion playoff. If it is the team you want, save again and make sure they win the playoff.

Serbia -

Slovenia -

Slovakia –

South Africa -

Spain - July 10th. Save on May 28th for different teams.

Sweden - December 26th

Switzerland - June 30th. Save on 12th June for different teams.

Turkey - 20th June

Ukraine - June 27th. Relegation playoff is June 3rd so save then to ensure you get a newly promoted side

Uruguay - 1st Jan

Wales – June 25th. Save May 13th for different teams.

Database Settings

Mandatory

Database size can be small, medium or large

Advanced Options have to be as shown here –

Optional

Any additional settings in the ‘Advanced Database Setup’ – Due to us not being allowed to buy players, adding extra players just adds to the realism of your game and potentially slightly increases difficulty. NOTE – It is highly recommended you add the highest unplayable leagues for your country, as this will help make sure the promoted teams (you will be taking control of) have players.

As an example, this is what I loaded for England for example -

Players from Top Clubs in Europe (or all players from whatever continent you are playing in) is also recommended

We used to limit this to just loading the leagues from the country you are playing in but we now allow you to load as many leagues as you to add a bit more immersion into their saves. You don't have to add any more than the country you are playing in but the option is there for people that want to.

Steps When Getting Started

Add yourself as an unemployed manager. Call him holiday man if you want.

Go on holiday until the reset date of your nation or the day before if you’re planning on reloading.

Retire the manager

Add a new manager with your chosen nationality and the lowest possible reputation and qualifications

Choose the newly promoted club of your choice

Rules for when taking over your club of choice

You're allowed to keep any player that starts under contract, you can extend their contracts as often as you like

Any players that are on loan at the club can be used but their loans can not be extended

If your board sign players for you and you can't cancel the deal these players can not be used, they must be sold ASAP, you should also post a screenshot in here when they've been signed so that we know they've been given to you

Rules for the Challenge

No loans or transfers in are allowed but you can sell and loan players out.

If you are sacked, sorry, you have to start again.

No save game editors are allowed. Only cosmetic database edits are allowed. (Team/competition names/logos)

No international management until completion of challenge.

Signing backroom staff is allowed. Signing players on trial or signing grey players isn't allowed.

Rules for this Thread

Player naming is allowed.

General discussion on tactics is allowed, although people should not refer to downloaded tactics. They are not banned, but I would expect the majority of people to avoid them.

Screenshots for anything are encouraged but please post links to your pictures, don't post them as images as it makes the pages slower to load.

When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile on the league reset date.

Progress of your club should be documented using this thread. The beauty of these challenge threads is to share your story and to read others. Please keep us updated, even if you are not performing as you may wish.

Season Update

Youth Candidates

All Tagged Players Attribute page

Transfers (to prove that you haven’t signed any players)

Squad

League Table

Anything else is optional.

Also, some people like to nickname/tag their best players from each youth intake in chronological order. For example, you could nickname your best player in the intake in season 1 as *their name* YP01a, and so on. But this is not compulsory if you don't wish to.

Completions

Over the years I've been running the thread we've kept track of completions and some great work by @OlivierL and @Winski we have some visual representations of them:

Completions by Continent:

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Countries not completed based on youth rating from FM22

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Top 10 worldwide based on dynamic youth rating FM22:

Egypt - Africa - 125
Turkey - Europe - 124 - Completed
Nigeria - Africa - 120
Mexico - North America - 120
Belgium - Europe - 120
Russia - Europe - 118
Colombia - South America - 117
Japan - Asia - 112
Iran - Asia - 110
South Korea - Asia - 110

Top 10 Europe based on dynamic youth rating FM22:

Turkey - Europe - 124 - completed
Belgium - Europe - 120
Russia - Europe - 118
Serbia - Europe - 100
Croatia - Europe - 98
Czech Rep. - Europe - 94
Romania - Europe - 91
Denmark - Europe - 91
Switzerland - Europe - 90
Sweden - Europe - 88

Map Overview of European Countries (those in white are uncompleted at this point of FM23 but will be updated as we go)

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Map Overview of The World (those in white are yet to be completed)

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Ideas for teams to manage

If you're looking for an idea or 2 for who to manage than both @Sn00gleand @XaW have made some suggestions for teams in countries they know about.

For Poland Sn00gle has this post with some interesting teams

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And XaW has some suggestions for Norway

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The7Striker also added some ideas for Portugal

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Good luck to all

Edited September 12, 2023 by darren1983

darren1983 · October 20, 2022

Last year we had a record (well a record since I started tracking it) number of completions so let's see what this year brings

User                         Club         Country               Year Completed          Version


jstu9			Lami		  Fiji*			2035			FM23
libbyshuss		Aachen		  Germany		2063			FM23
Dr Pepepr Man		Bashford	  England		2041			FM23
leyrtj			Magesi		  South Africa		2031			FM23
grff			Otahuhu United	  New Zealand*		2033			FM23
grff			Al-Nojoom	  Saudi Arabia*		2033			FM23
Barnsley		FC United	  England		2053			FM23
grff			Ifeanyi Ubah	  Nigeria*		2033			FM23
fries			South Shields	  England		2044			FM23
ludak			OFK Beograd	  Serbia		2041			FM23
the_hdk			Polonia Warszawa  Poland		2039			FM23
thomas_e		Energie Cottbus	  Germany		2033			FM23
Neo_Geo			Chiasso		  Switzerland		2034			FM23
hubwub			Comunicaciones	  Argentia		2027			FM23	
hubwub			Tampico Madero 	  Mexico		2027			FM23
the_hdk			Karsiyaka	  Turkey		2039			FM23
HenTheChicken		Mumbles		  Wales			2046			FM23
glennuk			Worthing	  England		2056			FM22
thomas_e		Katwijk		  Holland		2036			FM22
Neo_Geo			Katwijk		  Holland		2038			FM22
Daddy			Karpaty Lviv      Ukraine		2041			FM22`
toshimitzou1		Haukar		  Iceland		2035			FM22
libbyshuss		Whitby Town	  England		2066			FM22
libbyshuss		Chaco For Ever    Argentina		2056			FM22
dkouv			Sant Andreu	  Spain			2039			FM22
OlivierL		Africanos Bragança Portugual 		2038			FM22
Ronaldo Beckham		Toulon		  France		2037			FM22
SpS_Zen			Heibei Kungfu 	  China			2032			FM22
fries			FC United	  England		2043			FM22
Daddy			Deportes Concepcion	Chile		2037			FM22
thomas_e		Unterhaching	  Germany		2040			FM22
Flashman\'s School Days	Tacuarembo	  Urugay		2032			FM22
Pauldinho7		Beira-Mar	  Portugal 		2042			FM22
DrJones			Huelva		  Spain			2031			FM22
SpS_Zen			Mbombela United	  South Africa		2038			FM22
Zdnap			Lotte		  Germany		2032			FM21
OlivierL		RW Essen	  Germany		2030			FM21
toshimitzou1		AO Aigaleo	  Greece		2041			FM21
darren1983		South Shields	  England		2046			FM21
TerminalPortugal 	Portalegrense	  Portugal		2043			FM21	
scarp			Bora Rangers	  Scotland		2049			FM21
libbyshuss		FC Mirassol  	  Brazil		2045			FM21
holidaysong		FC United	  England		2048			FM21
Slipky			Ashton United	  England		2036			FM21
steve.rush		Sannois SG	  France		2046			FM21
Cheez3y			Wits		  South Africa		2026			FM21
Armeniar		Sedan		  France		2035			FM21	
Cheez3y			Lyn TF		  Norway		2031			FM21
thomas_e		Sacachispas	  Argentina		2030			FM21
JAwtunes		Widzew Lodz	  Poland		2038			FM20
vikeologist           	Palermo           Italy       		2041   			FM20                         
thomas_e              	South Shields     England  		2040                    FM20       
dkouv                  	Scarborough       England  		2045                    FM20       
Miek                    Nuneaton Boro     England		2049                    FM20   
Padders                	Scarborough       England   		2277 (not a typo)    	FM20
thomas_e               	Energie Cottbus   Germany		2033                    FM20
XaW			Kettering Town	  England		2036			FM19
thomas_e		Real Jean	  Spain			2038			FM19
b101			Sampedrense	  Portugal		2031			FM18

* challenge was completed on a custom database.

Edited September 19, 2023 by darren1983

darren1983 · October 20, 2022

Beta is live so I guess the challenge is once again live!

Good luck to you all this year

DazRTaylor · October 20, 2022

Let’s go!

This is the year I get on that honour board.

gechal · October 20, 2022

Hey Dazza!

love you man ❤️

libbyshuss · October 20, 2022

@darren1983 I'm back again! heading to France - reset date is June 20th!

XaW · October 20, 2022

Now…. Where to start…?

libbyshuss · October 20, 2022

6 minutes ago, XaW said:

Now…. Where to start…?

I've never tried France. Bring it on!!!!

Ice029 · October 20, 2022

Let's try something that might not be possible this year: from the depths of Iceland to UCL glory using a team from a village with less than 100 buildings in it, Grenivík, Iceland.

Also the dates for Iceland from last FM seem to be the same, save on 25th Sept for new teams, season ticks on 25th of November.

The7Striker · October 20, 2022

Let the "pain" begin :lol:

@darren1983 to avoid confusions, Russia is still not up for the challenge, right? You copied their name to the op page

Edited October 20, 2022 by The7Striker

darren1983 · October 20, 2022

8 minutes ago, The7Striker said:

Let the "pain" begin

@darren1983 to avoid confusions, Russia is still not up for the challenge, right?

Far as I know Russian clubs still can't be in Europe so yeah. I should probably remove them from the OP actually.

CardiffDragon · October 20, 2022

With a user name like mine it just had to be....

Forcast to finish last so should be an interesting first season

Wales ticks over on the 25th june again, not sure what day for new teams as it skipped a few days from the 12th to the 16th may without pausing but it is in that timeframe for different teams

WhiteCat33 · October 20, 2022

England for me to start. Guiseley have a solid squad, good facilities & projected mid-table finish at 15-1 odds. What could go wrong...

Padders · October 20, 2022

I'm in

OlivierL · October 20, 2022

Good luck everybody ! i'll join soon with a new challenge in a new country (no germany or portugal or iceland for me this edition).

JLAB · October 20, 2022

Good luck everyone. I don't plan on starting my journey until 8th November, but I'll be keeping an eye on things in the meantime.

Daddy · October 20, 2022

30 minutes ago, JLAB said:

Good luck everyone. I don't plan on starting my journey until 8th November, but I'll be keeping an eye on things in the meantime.

I'm waiting for release as well. but is there really a reason to? Is there a history of bugs being fixed that wouldn't apply to a beta save?

WhiteCat33 · October 20, 2022

If there is a bug in league promotion/regulation or other league rules based bugs I could see those requiring a fresh save to be fixed. I'll be looking on the forums as we near release to see if there is any glaring issues in the English leagues and if so I'll restart.

JLAB · October 20, 2022

23 minutes ago, Daddy said:

I'm waiting for release as well. but is there really a reason to? Is there a history of bugs being fixed that wouldn't apply to a beta save?

Mostly for database issues and any youth related bugs that could turn up. Some database mistakes have already been found it seems.

Edited October 20, 2022 by JLAB

Daddy · October 20, 2022

1 hour ago, WhiteCat33 said:

If there is a bug in league promotion/regulation or other league rules based bugs I could see those requiring a fresh save to be fixed. I'll be looking on the forums as we near release to see if there is any glaring issues in the English leagues and if so I'll restart.

Hard to argue with that logic. I instantly don't want to do scouting so I'll have a new save soon

WhiteCat33 · October 21, 2022

This is a first for me having a Fan Trust Takeover, have these always been possible? For me it's always just been a 'local investor'.

I hope this makes the new Supporters Mechanics doubly impactful, though on first glance the "Board Vision" and "Supporters Vision" still seem the same. Specifically, I would think the "Supporters' Influence on the Board" would automatically go to max, cause like they are the board? Question is if this is bug or intended.

SkiIIs · October 21, 2022

Back in it again with the new version but keeping the same colours :brock:

Daddy · October 21, 2022

Ilkeston had an intriguing story to me. From what I had read this was the fourth or fifth club to try to take root in Ilkeston. Also not a club I've seen people trying so that added to my own interest.

Profile and Facility data.

The club only has one kit, but the game has that blue color kit. I managed to find the main and sleeve sponsors and used a cool site that removes background (Remove bg or something like that) to make it play nicer with kitbasher. For the first season I aimed to get as close to their actual kit as possible. The second season I'll go crazy but keeping the color scheme.

Haven't tinkered with tactics but I have enough players to not have grey players so a good start.

Elsjorro · October 21, 2022

This time around i should really start updating here. Allready completed it 3 times, but i want that Hall of Fame spot fam.

XaW · October 21, 2022

6 hours ago, WhiteCat33 said:

This is a first for me having a Fan Trust Takeover, have these always been possible? For me it's always just been a 'local investor'.

I hope this makes the new Supporters Mechanics doubly impactful, though on first glance the "Board Vision" and "Supporters Vision" still seem the same. Specifically, I would think the "Supporters' Influence on the Board" would automatically go to max, cause like they are the board? Question is if this is bug or intended.

I'd report that as potential bug personally. Might just be an oversight, but it's good to report anything, especially in the beta.

Bartrcm · October 21, 2022

Meet the new manager of my favorite team in the world, Racing Mechelen.

For Belgium: save on the 1th of April to get new teams, then holiday until June the 30th.

XaW · October 21, 2022

8 minutes ago, Bartrcm said:

Meet the new manager of my favorite team in the world, Racing Mechelen.

For Belgium: save on the 1th of April to get new teams, then holiday until June the 30th.

You just saved me a bit of time. I found June 30th, but was unsure of the team date so I was experimenting for it. I am also going for Belgium now that they reduce the number of matches in all tiers! Was one of the reasons I struggled to get into Belgium before. 40 league matches is too many!

glennuk · October 21, 2022

@darren1983 and @XaW I believe this year South Korea can be included as there is relegation/promotion from division 2. Can you confirm? I am planning not to start until full release but thought I'd ask since the new thread is up

XaW · October 21, 2022

1 minute ago, glennuk said:

@darren1983 and @XaW I believe this year South Korea can be included as there is relegation/promotion from division 2. Can you confirm? I am planning not to start until full release but thought I'd ask since the new thread is up

If it's relegation from the lowest tier, go wild son!

XaW · October 21, 2022

Berchem Sport here I come!

DazRTaylor · October 21, 2022

Here we go.

Club Introduction

FC United of Manchester

The Manager

This is me.

Personal Coaching Data

Season     Reputation            Qualifications     Att   Def   Fit   GkD   GkH   GkS   Tac   Tec   Men   WWY   Ada   Det   PlK   YoK   LoD   MaM   Mot
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At start   Minimal   (0.25*)     None                 1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     4     1     1     1     4     1     1     1

Club Facilities

Season     Training Facilities  Youth Facilities  Youth Level  Corporate Facilities  Junior Coaching  Youth Recruitment  Club Reputation
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At Start   Basic                Basic                  4       Adequate              Average          Fairly Basic       Local   (1.00*)

Season Record

Season     Played     Won     Drawn     Lost     Goals For     Goals Against     Goal Difference     Win Percentage
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Overall Career Record

After Season   Played     Won     Drawn     Lost     Goals For     Goals Against     Goal Difference     Win Percentage     Time At Club
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Transfer Sale Record

Date               Player                    Position               Club Sold To                 Country                   Transfer Fee
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Trophy Haul

Season     Competition Won
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Trophy Cabinet

League Titles
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Cup Competition Victories
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Career Overview

Season     Champions League    Europa League    Europa Conference League             League                             Position     F.A. Cup                    League Cup        Achievements
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Record Number of Appearances (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                    Cumulative Number of Appearances
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Record Goal Scorer (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                    Cumulative Number of Goals
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Record Number of Assists (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                    Cumulative Number of Assists
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Record Number of Clean Sheets (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                    Cumulative Number of Clean Sheets
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Bartrcm · October 21, 2022

2 hours ago, XaW said:

You just saved me a bit of time. I found June 30th, but was unsure of the team date so I was experimenting for it. I am also going for Belgium now that they reduce the number of matches in all tiers! Was one of the reasons I struggled to get into Belgium before. 40 league matches is too many!

I'm still not sure that the amount of games is decreased. You never know in Belgium.

fries · October 21, 2022

Started with South Shields as I have unfinished buisness there from FM21.

The board expects play offs in the first season but I have some problems with the improved AI management. I have difficulties with holding a lead...

hubwub · October 21, 2022

Reset day for Spain is July 10. (July 9 screenshot for League Table.)

darren1983 · October 21, 2022

2 hours ago, glennuk said:

@darren1983 and @XaW I believe this year South Korea can be included as there is relegation/promotion from division 2. Can you confirm? I am planning not to start until full release but thought I'd ask since the new thread is up

From a quick look there doesn't appear to be relegation first season but I'm just testing it now so will let you know.

Edit: Seemed for 12 months and there is no relegation from South Korea League 2, I don't know if it's meant to be in or just comes in later seasons (like Holland did/done) though

Edited October 21, 2022 by darren1983

WhiteCat33 · October 21, 2022

4 hours ago, XaW said:

I'd report that as potential bug personally. Might just be an oversight, but it's good to report anything, especially in the beta.

I made a report the same time I posted here and SI have already responded that they are investigating. I promptly went on a 10 game winless streak after the takeover so I'm probably lucky it's not max fan influence

XaW · October 21, 2022

34 minutes ago, darren1983 said:

From a quick look there doesn't appear to be relegation first season but I'm just testing it now so will let you know.

Edit: Seemed for 12 months and there is no relegation from South Korea League 2, I don't know if it's meant to be in or just comes in later seasons (like Holland did/done) though

Yeah, my reply was based on the fact that it was relegation. I did not test it personally.

DazRTaylor · October 21, 2022

Yes, yes, I realise I am spamming. But you should all know me by now in that I have several saves on the go at the same time. So here we go in Scotland.

Club Introduction

The Spartans

The Manager

This is me.

Personal Coaching Data

Season     Reputation            Qualifications     Att   Def   Fit   GkD   GkH   GkS   Tac   Tec   Men   WWY   Ada   Det   PlK   YoK   LoD   MaM   Mot
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At start   Minimal   (0.25*)     None                 1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     4     1     1     1     4     1     1     1

Club Facilities

Season     Training Facilities  Youth Facilities  Corporate Facilities  Junior Coaching  Youth Recruitment  Club Reputation
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At Start   Adequate             Adequate          Adequate              Good             Average            Regional   (1.50*)

Season Record

Season     Played     Won     Drawn     Lost     Goals For     Goals Against     Goal Difference     Win Percentage
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Overall Career Record

After Season   Played     Won     Drawn     Lost     Goals For     Goals Against     Goal Difference     Win Percentage     Time At Club
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Transfer Sale Record

Date               Player                    Position               Club Sold To                 Country                   Transfer Fee
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Trophy Haul

Season     Competition Won
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Trophy Cabinet

League Titles
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Cup Competition Victories
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Career Overview

Season     Champions League    Europa League    Europa Conference League             League                             Position     Scottish Cup          Premier Sports Cup        Achievements
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Record Number of Appearances (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                    Cumulative Number of Appearances
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Record Goal Scorer (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                          Cumulative Number of Goals
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Record Number of Assists (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                        Cumulative Number of Assists
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Record Number of Clean Sheets (Players From The Academy Only)

Season     Player                    Cumulative Number of Clean Sheets
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Edited October 23, 2022 by DazRTaylor

ANGL · October 21, 2022

I feel like I am close to completion on my ASA save in FM22, so will give myself a couple of seasons more until I switch to FM23. Should I post my updates here or in the FM22 thread?

Bartrcm · October 21, 2022

Finances in Belgium seems to be even worse than in previous seasons, losing 150k every month. :idiot:

Edited October 21, 2022 by Bartrcm

darren1983 · October 21, 2022

2 hours ago, XaW said:

Yeah, my reply was based on the fact that it was relegation. I did not test it personally.

Yeah no worries, I just happened to be testing something else when I saw the post so thought I'd check

darren1983 · October 21, 2022

23 minutes ago, ANGL said:

I feel like I am close to completion on my ASA save in FM22, so will give myself a couple of seasons more until I switch to FM23. Should I post my updates here or in the FM22 thread?

During Beta I'd say the FM22 thread will still be best but on full release, if you're still playing it then think here is fine.

OlivierL · October 21, 2022

38 minutes ago, Bartrcm said:

Finances in Belgium seems to be even worse than in previous seasons, losing 150k every month.

Do you mean because of youth costs or something else ?

OlivierL · October 21, 2022

5 hours ago, XaW said:

Berchem Sport here I come!

Good luck ! Regens from my hometown Started with them three or four times but always decided to quit (first team because of data issue, second time because of financial issues).

Bartrcm · October 21, 2022

1 hour ago, OlivierL said:

Do you mean because of youth costs or something else ?

Youth costs are 44k, but all promoted teams are professional teams, and the wages are way too high.

hubwub · October 21, 2022

5 hours ago, darren1983 said:

From a quick look there doesn't appear to be relegation first season but I'm just testing it now so will let you know.

Edit: Seemed for 12 months and there is no relegation from South Korea League 2, I don't know if it's meant to be in or just comes in later seasons (like Holland did/done) though

I've simmed up to 2030 in the game with South Korea just loaded. No promotions from K LEAGUE 3 clubs into K LEAGUE 2.

OlivierL · October 21, 2022

I noticed some reports about development bugs - specifically on technical attributes.

Is this a real issue like we had last year and if it is.. this could be a long term problem for this challenge ?

JLAB · October 21, 2022

Be warned, there is a bug where technical attributes are not developing properly long-term.

The7Striker · October 21, 2022

14 minutos atrás, OlivierL disse:

I noticed some reports about development bugs - specifically on technical attributes.

Is this a real issue like we had last year and if it is.. this could be a long term problem for this challenge ?

Not really. Well at least I hope. Its in beta status so I hope SI can fix it for the final release. And thats the plus of the beta status.

I just hope Youth Facilities bug is gone.

OlivierL · October 21, 2022

4 minutes ago, The7Striker said:

Not really. Well at least I hope. Its in beta status so I hope SI can fix it for the final release. And thats the plus of the beta status.

I just hope Youth Facilities bug is gone.

Sorry i mean a long term issue for starting or 'real' game in this beta stage.

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