ilyes92300 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: Have you seen the google docs ? it is a last version ? for 451 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Yes, that is the latest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 thanks bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloydey1 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Lloydey1 said: I have been looking for a tactic with one up top, AMR/L and MC plus DM (so the MC can be creative/attacking). I was using Davy’s tactic pre testing with some success (but scraping wins not playing superbly well and against top clubs it wasn’t defensively sound) and have just come across 451 Preachin Blues which looks great and ranks well in tests. I am starting a new save with Man Utd. A few questions re adjustments to Preachin blues for Knap if that’s ok- 1. I have used Rashford to great effect as a IF but on At duty - views on that? 2. I like that you have a CM A and MeZ S - the latter I plan to fill with a Bruno Fernandes. The former I will use Pogba for but he is better as a AP A. How much difference would this make (as both attack duty)? I am guessing a CM is more defensive than a AP even on A duty? On my prior save on Davy’s formation my favourite part was the AP A and MeZ S combo which led to Pogba getting 20 goals, perhaps as an offset reduce the DM to D rather than S i guess this sounds like simple tweaks but I don’t want to mess up the way the tactic fits together 3. In reality can I change the PF to AF - and up their pressing urgency. I am basing this on Martial/Rashford being good AF but less at PF (as a side note would be interested to hear how you use the role suitability on your saves as many of your formations have MR and ML and also MC where there can be difficulty finding a player “green” for that role - do you just ignore and play someone good (eg Salah on your recent Liverpool save) in MR/L and basically they act as AMR/L)? I have started the season now with a 2-1 home victory vs Chelsea, which I dominated and should have had more - so far so good. Would be good to get feedback on the above though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 SEE Screenshots and answers above. I also discussed lst night on discord a lot of the background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 with last 4-5-1 (im bvb) lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloydey1 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, knap said: SEE Screenshots and answers above. I also discussed lst night on discord a lot of the background. I saw that and did wonder if it was a response to my question but I must admit to not understanding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Sent a PM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) This is TIME Tactic which uses Positive mentality. Has been tested on FM Base. Has a good away record so using positive away is worth trying. FM20.2.3TIME442PFWMSPKnapPPositive100EC.fmf Edited January 10, 2020 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aStRaLoN Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: SEE Screenshots and answers above. I also discussed lst night on discord a lot of the background. Hey, do you have a discord server? url? P.S: Is there a tactic with 2 strikers and wingers to recommend for an underdog team? Thanks in advance Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 sent PM for invite Google dogs underdog column will give the best recommendation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aStRaLoN Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, knap said: sent PM for invite Google dogs underdog column will give the best recommendation Thanx! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: This is TIME Tactic which uses Positive mentality. Has been tested on FM Base. FM20.2.3WULF4132PFDMIWBAPSPKnapP05ECCC.fmf 45.2 kB · 37 downloads Has a good away record so using positive away is worth trying. the tactic not time tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Changed to TIME Tactic (TIME Tactics Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricrpor Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Had great success with sympathy , beowulf and Sicilian . won both EPL and UCL 3 seasons in a row This season decided to test the new sympathy P108 however things are not going so well and things like this keeps happening ... any thoughts ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Knap, would you kindly recommend a tactic for Chelsea.. Just finished my first season and just scrapped through top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 The problem with the P108 may be the extreme tempo, which can make it a bit Marmite. Maybe worth trying the P102 at Home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 With Chelsea I would try a higher sub top tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, knap said: With Chelsea I would try a higher sub top tactic. So that is either Leipzig, preachin blues or Oxford as the top three from docs, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricrpor Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, knap said: The problem with the P108 may be the extreme tempo, which can make it a bit Marmite. Maybe worth trying the P102 at Home. 4132? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 http://bit.ly/knaptactics Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Top Club say 1-5 in League (Lpool MC etc) Sub Top 6-11 in League Underdog the rest Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 With Chelsea you can always use home and away tactics. Oxford may not be that good away as a fairly open tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 The P102 4132 is the base for the P108 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricrpor Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, knap said: The P102 4132 is the base for the P108 ok. i am thinking on switching to preaching blues at half season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, knap said: With Chelsea you can always use home and away tactics. Oxford may not be that good away as a fairly open tactic. Please, please recommend one tactic for home, one for away...after lots of failure I don't trust my judgement no more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 I would start with Sympathy Leipzig 4222 with Preachin Blues 4141 or Sicilian P101 4222 as a difficult away game option, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, knap said: I would start with Sympathy Leipzig 4222 with Preachin Blues 4141 or Sicilian P101 4222 as a difficult away game option, Thanks a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 FM 20.2.3 FM20.2.34231KnapRambleOnP100.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) sometimes i really do not understand this game. This is a screen of retourn match of 1st knockout round of europa League first season, my team is AZ The first match has ended 3-3, with plenty ccc for both teams but in the retourn match I simply cannot contain my opponent, they started with long ball since the beginning and everytime the forwarders were alone against my goalkeeper. I've started with simpathy 108 as starting tactic, then switched sicilian, then i've lowered the mentality to balanced, then to cautious then to defensive but there was no way to stop the long balls On the other hand the only tactic that allows me to play away against strong or stronger opponents with attacking mentality is wuld 4132 106 pt, the screen below shows how i've dominated PSV away. Edited January 11, 2020 by radetzky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, radetzky said: sometimes i really do not understand this game. This is a screen of retourn match of 1st knockout round of europa League first season, my team is AZ The first match has ended 3-3, with plenty ccc for both teams but in the retourn match I simply cannot contain my opponent, they started with long ball since the beginning and everytime the forwarders were alone against my goalkeeper. I've started with simpathy 108 as starting tactic, then switched sicilian, then i've lowered the mentality to balanced, then to cautious then to defensive but there was no way to stop the long balls I'm testing this out, not sure if it works yet: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BePlus Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hi Knap, Thank you for the tactics. May I ask.. For FM20.2 SICILIAN P101, do you prefer more conventional DMs (Defensive) like Dier/Kante or technical DMs (DLP role) like Ruben Neves? Will a defensive/ tech combo work well to compliment with each other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 @knap hi, Unfortunately your last version of 4-5-1 does not work ... I tested with the Bvb, Man Utd it is very complicated ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Usually attacking combination in midfield so attacking and defensive players. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, knap said: Usually attacking combination in midfield so attacking and defensive players. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 FM 20.2.3 Last years tactic tested at 16 on FM Base FM20.2WULFVOL42220Knap.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BePlus Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Thank you bro! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 13 ore fa, Augustin1979 ha scritto: I'm testing this out, not sure if it works yet: many thanks for this tip. It's very interesting, i've tried to apply the Tpalan's suggestions to wulf4132 106 pt and this was the result….a clear win away against Benfica. They had no chances coming from long balls. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Tested 4132SympathyVol2P108, 2nd season RMadrid (2030/2031). 3 losses: 1 in league - reserve team(away 2-0) and 2 in UCL - reserve team in group stage(away 1-0) and 1st semi-final vs MCity (home 0-1). No OI's. Good tactic, TY Knap! Will test BVB. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardzie Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 any advice? my own tactic went stale and had a look at argus 3322 and decided to give that a go. Tweaking as necessary based on strength of opps (moving down to balanced or cautious, DL line down, etc) but im 19th in form table. Losing to teams I should be beating (this is my easiest run of games all teams bottom half and I'm Crystal Palace cemented myself as a EL team 3 season in). Most chances created but strikers couldn't hit a barn door to save their children (Haaland and Gabriel Jesus) I would try some of the others but i only have the players to play some varirant of 352 currently. None of the 352s have yielded any success and my own tactic while very slightly better is still stale and i'm in dire need to save my season! Been playing FM/CM for nearly 20 years and never ever been stumped this bad before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, erzet17 said: Tested 4132SympathyVol2P108, 2nd season RMadrid (2030/2031). 3 losses: 1 in league - reserve team(away 2-0) and 2 in UCL - reserve team in group stage(away 1-0) and 1st semi-final vs MCity (home 0-1). No OI's. Good tactic, TY Knap! Will test BVB. Did you play the games, or was it on holiday mode/instant result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bardzie said: any advice? my own tactic went stale and had a look at argus 3322 and decided to give that a go. Tweaking as necessary based on strength of opps (moving down to balanced or cautious, DL line down, etc) but im 19th in form table. Losing to teams I should be beating (this is my easiest run of games all teams bottom half and I'm Crystal Palace cemented myself as a EL team 3 season in). Most chances created but strikers couldn't hit a barn door to save their children (Haaland and Gabriel Jesus) I would try some of the others but i only have the players to play some varirant of 352 currently. None of the 352s have yielded any success and my own tactic while very slightly better is still stale and i'm in dire need to save my season! Been playing FM/CM for nearly 20 years and never ever been stumped this bad before I'm having the same experience as you. I need someone to recommend any tactic or strategy for 3D play.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Mentality seems more important than ever. And still you can never be sure to win. Like real life. Tho sometimes abit to much in FM20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsdal03 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Using your 4-5-1 with good results bar CM (A) position - He gets really low rating. Is there another role for him to play that would work, without tinkering to much with full picture of tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinSw6 said: Did you play the games, or was it on holiday mode/instant result? Played games, Odegaard(RM) the best player in my team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Regroup and Hold Shape work well as a SUS. They should work during a match but is more difficult to use for every match. Good tools for tweaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Knap - can you make a 4312 narrow formation tactic since i lately saw a lot of youtubers playing long carrers with this formation and haven't seen any kind of this tactic i would be happy to test it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Do these youtubers not provide a tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 no, haven't found anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 14:43, knap said: FM 20.2.3 FM20.2.34231KnapRambleOnP100.fmf 44.86 kB · 97 downloads Touch Instant Result International League destruction of France. Dunno why International plays different from Club but good result to start the Summer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Rashidi normally provides tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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