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I've found a recent game very frustrating. Playing as Nottingham Forest and quite well, missing millions of 1 on 1s but still picking up wins. Then without warning can't win a game, against virtually anyone. Try changing formations etc and still nothing. I was using 4-3-2-1 Parisian Walkways, which I've got back to now to see if consistency will help.

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So annoying.

Still props to Knap as ever, making the game great with tactical options as ever.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, knap said:

When did you change tactic?

Just after the Middlesbrough game, battered by QPR but we had better stats, then once I'd lost again I tried 4-5-1 Preachin Blues, and then switched back for the Blackburn game and I've just beaten Reading 2-3.

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2 hours ago, kireby said:

Recommend IR tactic please, can't find special one

The FM 20 ME is quite erratic IMO, and can be very frustrating, especially using IR since there are no match adjustments. Overall, the most consistent tactic I have used is  FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf

Change the mentality to Positive or Balanced for tough away matches if you want. 

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf is another good one if you have good WB's. 

Sometimes there are matches where it seems you are destined to lose no matter what tactics you're using or how good/bad your squad is or the opposition. I can't stand this ME and hope they improve it after the Transfer Window. 

 

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You changed for the right game being at home with a home boost, although not sure how good SW are.in your save.

Because it is easy to lose 3 games in a row without any reason, I may have left it a few more games. Again good game to switch back.

Not sure if any team issues arose at that time but if stating to win again, maybe just a bad patch.

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18 minutes ago, knap said:

You changed for the right game being at home with a home boost, although not sure how good SW are.in your save.

Because it is easy to lose 3 games in a row without any reason, I may have left it a few more games. Again good game to switch back.

Not sure if any team issues arose at that time but if stating to win again, maybe just a bad patch.

TBH Its frustrating the amount of 1on1s Grabban's been missing for me, so felt it was only a matter of time before started losing. Anyway, as you say what I'm thinking now is a team I shouldn't beat I'll try the 4-5-1 and the teams I should beat I'll go with the 4-2-3-1.

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Thanks for the link guys.  Knap, for LLM where I'm regularly underdog what do you suggest?  We're picked to be in relegation battles.  I was doing ok with Sicilian 442 but then have inconsistent spots where I've dropped 4 of 7 (4 losses, 2 draws, 1 win) and currently in a slump with 1W 2D 7L; both over my last 20 games.

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2 hours ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

The FM 20 ME is quite erratic IMO, and can be very frustrating, especially using IR since there are no match adjustments. Overall, the most consistent tactic I have used is  FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf

Change the mentality to Positive or Balanced for tough away matches if you want. 

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf is another good one if you have good WB's. 

Sometimes there are matches where it seems you are destined to lose no matter what tactics you're using or how good/bad your squad is or the opposition. I can't stand this ME and hope they improve it after the Transfer Window. 

 

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Been sacked for the first time in years on FM.

Moved to Blackburn mid season. My strikers just refused to score consistently in the end, no matter how many chances they were given 

In the end I only had one goalscorer, and even his record wasn't great. Crazy how the same set of tactics can work worse for a team with better players. 

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FM 20.2 Tactics

NEW TACTICS

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf45.03 kB · 0 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P102

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP102ECCC.fmf45.02 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 343

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap343P101FACC.fmf43 kB · 102 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451

FM20.2.3451KnapPreachinBluesP102FA.fmf44.89 kB · 164 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 4141

FM20.2.34141KnapPreachinBluesP100EC.fmf44.92 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 3322

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap3322P105.fmf43.19 kB · 84 downloads

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE 4132 DROPPED DL

FM20.2.3GOODBYEbalanced4132APDLKnapP102.fmf45.27 kB · 77 downloads

 

FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL LEIPZIG

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.

442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top ) 

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ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

WULF 4132 P106

FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads

OXFORD 41221

FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads

BEOWULF 442 P107

FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads

NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads

FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411

FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf44.81 kB · 6 downloads

 

WULF 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads

 

FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141

959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf45.03 kB · 1 download

FM 20.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231

FM20.2.34231KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf44.92 kB · 7 downloads

FM20.2.3KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkways4231IWP97.fmf44.92 kB · 5 downloads

FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100

FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf44.87 kB · 732 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106

FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95

FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads

 

 

 

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4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

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4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102  (Top Sub top underdog)

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442 P102

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4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads

442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads

ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top)

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BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL

442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

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442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

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4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

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4132 GOODBYE P101

FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads

BLUE MATTER 451 P98

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WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

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442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

WULF 4141

FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads

WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

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41311 Leeds

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6 minutes ago, Jamieac said:

Been sacked for the first time in years on FM.

Moved to Blackburn mid season. My strikers just refused to score consistently in the end, no matter how many chances they were given 

In the end I only had one goalscorer, and even his record wasn't great. Crazy how the same set of tactics can work worse for a team with better players. 

I've been sacked twice in three seasons.  Never been sacked before.  I guess that's a good thing.  Realistic.  But man, this is the first version with such inconsistent results even with the same team.  I've gone from playoff range to mid table.  Thank goodness the bottom half of the table was really bad. 

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n my Juventus save very succesful was the combination of two mentalities, with a bit of tweaking during the matchplay. I decided to pick Oxford 41221 tactic, but with lower defensive line. All matches i started with cautious mentality as default, unless the assistant recommended a change (mostly switching to positive in home games against mid-table oppontents, or worse). 

When i watched a match, mostly i paid attention to the shots statistics.  When i saw after 15-20 minutes that my opponents getting a shooting opportunities too easily, i lowered mentality by 1, even to "defensive" in some away games. Maybe it wasn't the most entertaining football on Earth, but gave my many crucial victories, and definitely the best record of away wins in Serie A.

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1 minute ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

Are you guys that are getting sacked staying with the same tactic? 

For the most part yes.  I've been using the Sicilian442DLKnapP101AllCups on the road or as an underdog (most matches).  For home when I'm favored I've been using the 20.2.3Par1sParisienneWaalkways4231WP97. 

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A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)              OVERALL     SUB TOP UNDERDOG           OVERALL SUB TOP   UNDERDOG

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101                                                                                   1                   7                        1                         3               4             6

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222                                                                                             2                  1                      14

FM 20.2.3  ARGUS 3322                                                                                              3                 3                      16        

FM 20 ARGUS 352                                                                                                        4                 19                      4                         1                3               2

FM 20.2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451                                                                              5                 20                      3

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106                                                               12                 6                      17                         5               8                1

FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                                                             16                    9                      20                        2                 1             7

BEOWULF 442 P107                                                                                                  20                    21                      13                         4              5                 3

FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL        P101CC                                                               15                       27                     2                           6               6              5

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98                                                                                         6                       5                   15

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE balanced P102                                                                      8                    15                      8

FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2      P107ECFA                                                         7                   18                        6

FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141                                                                                        9                    16                        7

FM 20 BEOWULF 4411                                                                                                19                   12                    19                        7             7                  3

FM 20.2.3     PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 IF     Best tested 4231                21                   22                    10                          8             2                9

FM 20 MILAN 4141                                                                                                      11                 17                      9                         9             9                  8

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442                                                                                               13                    2

FM 20 WULF 4132  P102ECCC                                                                                   10                    6

FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220                                                                                          18                 26                       5

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL2                                                                                   17                    11                    18

 FM20 WULF 4132 ALL CUPS                                                                                     23                       8

FM20 GOODBYE 4132                                                                                                   14                     10

FM 20.2.3 TIME 442                                                                                                      13                  14                      11

FM 20 PILGRIMAGE 41311                                                                                         11                   25                     12

FM20.2 STARGAZING 442P106ECFA                                                                        22                    4

FM 20.2.3 WULF 4132 P105ECCC                                                                             24                 13

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE                                                                                                                  23

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FM 20.2 Tactics

NEW TACTICS

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf45.03 kB · 0 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P102

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP102ECCC.fmf45.02 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 343

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap343P101FACC.fmf43 kB · 102 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451

FM20.2.3451KnapPreachinBluesP102FA.fmf44.89 kB · 164 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 4141

FM20.2.34141KnapPreachinBluesP100EC.fmf44.92 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 3322

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap3322P105.fmf43.19 kB · 84 downloads

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE 4132 DROPPED DL

FM20.2.3GOODBYEbalanced4132APDLKnapP102.fmf45.27 kB · 77 downloads

 

FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL LEIPZIG

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

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442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top ) 

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ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

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WULF 4132 P106

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OXFORD 41221

FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads

BEOWULF 442 P107

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NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

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FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411

FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf44.81 kB · 6 downloads

 

WULF 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads

 

FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141

959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf45.03 kB · 1 download

FM 20.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231

FM20.2.34231KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf44.92 kB · 7 downloads

FM20.2.3KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkways4231IWP97.fmf44.92 kB · 5 downloads

FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100

FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf44.87 kB · 732 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106

FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95

FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads

 

 

 

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WULF

4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

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4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102  (Top Sub top underdog)

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442 P102

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4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

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442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

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ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

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BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top)

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BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL

442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

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442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

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4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

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4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

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4132 GOODBYE P101

FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads

BLUE MATTER 451 P98

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads

WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads

442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

WULF 4141

FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads

WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads

41311 Leeds

FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads

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