vitoco77 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 23 hours ago, knap said: Northern Soul MR L and RDF Tweaks BETAFM20.3.4NorthernSoul442MrHRDFKnpP99allcups.fmf 45.14 kB · 155 downloads A suprised result on the 1st game plug and play.....I am Spurs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @vitoco77 Always like a good Spurs win. Any problem with cards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 cards? no, just normal, getting a few yellow as usual! Question: Lets say i train my players into position, at the beginning the circle appears to be red, then gradually it becomes brown and then green. Does it eventually become full green? Meaning, would it be easier then i buy a natural player of that position? I started using this tac at the Bournemouth game. None of my right foot players is good to play LMF, and none of my left foot on the RMF. So far I consider it has been very good results! The Man city game i have been lucky to win. They were on the upper hand. I scored from a FK. My suggestion, you can buy the 2 CB with at least 190 cm tall, 15+ on jumping and heading. My 2 CB did score in these 4 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If your tactics don't work well, try personalizing your tactics and let me know if it works better or worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoteco Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Can anyone tell me a decent ,3 on the back, tactic? The best one? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @nicoteco You can sort google docs but both Argus and Northern Soul have performed well in independent testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoteco Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 @knap Thank you. Can you tell me the difference between them, despite the formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @vitoco77 The hardest time I've had is retraining Kane to SS in FM 17. Most wide players can work on wings, although I never tried a amr at wb but certainly wb at amr can work. Depends on players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @nicoteco Argus I set up in probably from FM 17 or 18 although the 3322 version has a Libero. MR H was involved in setting up Northern Soul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warman1982 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 @knap I'm using beta from steam and my save is saving 20.2.4 but your beta tactics are saying 20.3.4 does this mean using the wrong public beta and if so where can I get 20.3.4 thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Typing error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 can someone tell me tactics for 20.2.3 please and wether this is beta or not very confusing looking through these tactics and seeing beta and live tactics ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0ng1991 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 hi knap can you post a tactics list for public beta test version please. thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) With Beta, looks like a formation with at least 1 DM is required to beat top clubs. And I still can't believe that Man U is a "top" club in '20. World beaters in FM and utter crap IRL. Edited February 4, 2020 by Heywood JaBlowme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCArsenal Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Guys, how are your strikers performing in the beta? I am still struggling to score goals with them, They miss CCC almost every time, and if they score its usually offside. No matter what is my tactic, with 1 or 2 strikers they always miss. My team at the moments is the best in the league and I have the best goals scored stats in the league but not with my strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Report post Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) FM 20.2 Tactics TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPEDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TE22-1gsGXb4Y3yxpsUST7KusUiFPl_XBkhvxIO0fH0/edit#gid=0 MENTALLITY MATTERS GUIDE MENTALITY MATT NEW TACTICS SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108 FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf45.03 kB · 0 downloads SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P102 FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP102ECCC.fmf45.02 kB · 0 downloads FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 343 FM20.2.3ARGUSknap343P101FACC.fmf43 kB · 102 downloads FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451 FM20.2.3451KnapPreachinBluesP102FA.fmf44.89 kB · 164 downloads FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 4141 FM20.2.34141KnapPreachinBluesP100EC.fmf44.92 kB · 0 downloads FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 3322 FM20.2.3ARGUSknap3322P105.fmf43.19 kB · 84 downloads FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE 4132 DROPPED DL FM20.2.3GOODBYEbalanced4132APDLKnapP102.fmf45.27 kB · 77 downloads FM20.2 SICILIAN P101 FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL LEIPZIG 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44. 442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top ) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads WULF 4132 P106 FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads OXFORD 41221 FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads BEOWULF 442 P107 FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101 FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411 FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf44.81 kB · 6 downloads WULF 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog) FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141 959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf45.03 kB · 1 download Am i right in thinking these tactics will work with the patch 20.2.3 on normal fm20 please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 there should be 2 lists of tactics ie 1. Beta 2. Normal Game ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, marksmithlfc1234 said: there should be 2 lists of tactics ie 1. Beta 2. Normal Game ?? There is. See 2nd tab in Google Sheet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @eencae Thanks for sorting google docs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme May be good to use a DM Tactic when playing better opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @FCArsenal I assume a few seasons into your save. There is a tactic mad as a hatter that may cause more problems. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @marksmithlfc1234 Most FM 20.2.3 Tactics are still working in Beta, and even FM 19 tactics still work There are a few tweaked tactics but nothing major. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Thanks Knap , I am playing as Liverpool in the full game and only got it today !! Which Tactic is standout in full game please !! Edited February 4, 2020 by marksmithlfc1234 spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 @marksmithlfc1234 Probably applies to 20.2.3 or Beta. The best result I have had with Lpool is Sympathy P108 which also managed to win PL with Norwich. Current leader in beta testing is the original Sympathy Leipzig My own favourites are Beowulf 442 P107 and wulf 4132 P106 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, knap said: @marksmithlfc1234 Probably applies to 20.2.3 or Beta. The best result I have had with Lpool is Sympathy P108 which also managed to win PL with Norwich. Current leader in beta testing is the original Sympathy Leipzig My own favourites are Beowulf 442 P107 and wulf 4132 P106 Knap , Can you post the last 2 tactics you mentioned please ? Beowulf 442 P107 and wulf 4132 P106 ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 both on beta tab Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filipezepp Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, knap said: @marksmithlfc1234 Probably applies to 20.2.3 or Beta. The best result I have had with Lpool is Sympathy P108 which also managed to win PL with Norwich. Current leader in beta testing is the original Sympathy Leipzig My own favourites are Beowulf 442 P107 and wulf 4132 P106 what is the original Sympathy Leipzig? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just ends leipzig and one of first tactics posted - has to vols Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythalion Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Guys what's the best tactic here? I'm using Benfica with the FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA but it's not working out Edited February 4, 2020 by Skythalion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Tem talks press training with AM but you are controlling OIs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythalion Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I only give team talks, the rest is up to the AM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Can you try with AM giving team talks and to avoid OIs you need to be in control and set none. Edited February 5, 2020 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythalion Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, knap said: Can you try with AM giving team talks and to avoid OIs you need to be in control and set none. I only do the talks before the game, at half time and at the end. That's it, the pre match briefing is the AM that gives it, OIs is also the AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 AM OIs can wreck tactic so there should be no OIs. Also give AM team talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythalion Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, knap said: AM OIs can wreck tactic so there should be no OIs. Also give AM team talks. So I should give team talks to my AM and get back the OIs but not setting anything, is that right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusBolin Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) On 15/01/2020 at 02:34, knap said: FM 20.2.3 Dropped DL FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmf 44.82 kB · 1,485 downloads I have used this tactic in 7-8 games. All wins but seems to conceede goal almost every game. Most in the last 10 of the game. I only had 2 clean sheets. Will it work to change the LOE? I manage FC Copenhagen (Danish top team) maybe you have another/better tactic for a top team? (I want to play 4-4-2 flat) Edited February 5, 2020 by RasmusBolin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusBolin Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RasmusBolin said: I have used this tactic in 7-8 games. All wins but seems to conceede goal almost every game. Most in the last 10 of the game. I only had 2 clean sheets. Will it work to change the LOE? I manage FC Copenhagen (Danish top team) maybe you have another/better tactic for a top team? (I want to play 4-4-2 flat) https://www.footballmanagerstory.com/best-fm-2020-tactics-knaps-unbeaten-beowulf-4-4-2/ Have tried this and it seems to work a little better... first game I got 4 yellow cards, hope its get better with time.. Edited February 5, 2020 by RasmusBolin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsalai Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) I find FM Rensie's 'Calm or Aggressive? Team Talks' guide very useful. It's for an older version of FM but can be applied to newer versions. A quick Google should bring it up. Hope this helps Edited February 5, 2020 by cfwhittle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20 hours ago, knap said: @jepguardiola10 I misnamed a couple of tactics. This is a corrected version of tactic posted. The other tactic I've not posted yet. BETAFM20.2.4NorthernSoul442MrHRDFKnpP99allcups.fmf 45.14 kB · 110 downloads I played for a season with the tactics adjusted by Mr H and RDF, as shown in the picture, winning the Premier League, Carling Cup and Europa League, and losing to West Ham on penalties in the FA Cup. Of course, I didn't use the Instant Result, to lead the game all by myself, and I used the misplaced man-to-man marking, and every game was manually set, mainly one PF withdrew the opponent's DM or MC, one MC stared at the opponent's AMC or the organizational striker. The using of misplaced man-marking's effect is good, especially in the face of 4231 and 3 DC's tactics. The defensive effect is good, but the overall goal is not so many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiza Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Whats the misplaced man marking effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Smiza said: Whats the misplaced man marking effect? Sorry, my English expression is not very fluent, with the help of a translator. I learned this method in China's FM forum playgm.cc, the original link is http://www.playgm.cc/thread-926651-1-1.html the specific text expression I try to translate into English. The author believes that, there can be some special targeted settings for different formations. Face to 4231: 442 pairs of 4231 natural unmanned midfielders, I usually use a striker to manually set the man-to-man midfield, the position of the dragged midfield on the left with the striker on the right, and on the right with the striker on the left, and then use my own midfielder on the same side of the striker to keep an eye on the other side of the midfield. on the right, I use my own midfielder on the same side of the striker to keep an eye on the opponent's front waist. This will make the defense more stable, but because there is only one striker left to oppress the opponent's centre-back, the oppression in the front court is reduced, and the other striker falls deep in defense, so the counter-attack efficiency will be reduced. Need to pay attention to the other side of the ball guard directly to the striker, so also need to pull their own defensive line back a grid. Their own ball possession rate can be stable at more than 40%, and the backcourt ball is no problem, or the other side is a group shape, can not have a forward back defense. It's easy to play against 433, just pull the striker on the right to stare at the opponent's back. In this way, I beat Manchester City in the Carling Cup final of Nottingham Forest's first Carling Cup season at 3:1. Both goals were scored by the striker who directly interfered with the ball in the back and scored a counterattack. The two wingers of 442 can automatically mark the wingers in positions 433 and 4231, and the position is very deep, so the flank defense is relatively stable, and the need for fine-tuning is mainly aimed at high-position defense. Tactics with 3 DCs: just like Conte's first season at Chelsea, he found that the three-back system had plenty of space to take advantage of 442, 4231, 433, 4141 in the Premier League, and Chelsea reversed and won the title. This is well simulated by the engine in the FM, where the winger does not follow the opponent's wingback under the 442 original position. So the 442 can either manually set the two wingers man-to-man on each other's wingers, or raise the two wingers one grid in front of them. Edited February 5, 2020 by RockIt147 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Knap, Who takes corner in your tactics? and Do you recommend "misplaced man marking effect" in your tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sverige91 said: Knap, Who takes corner in your tactics? and Do you recommend "misplaced man marking effect" in your tactics? My 'misplaced-man-marking' expression is not accurate, which means manually asking my PF to keep eye on man-marking your DM or MC, my MC to keep eye on marking your AMC or DLF, etc. Edited February 5, 2020 by RockIt147 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I think what rock it is trying to explain is where you go into the player settings and manually select Man Marking from a specific player/position. This is something i have never used before and would be interested to test this as could be a good way to neutralise the AM by using a DM/Volante to man mark him out of the game.... Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, RockIt147 said: My 'misplaced-man-marking' expression is not accurate, which means manually asking my PF to keep eye on man-marking your DM or MC, my MC to keep eye on marking your AMC or DLF, etc. It seems to be very very interesting concept, I tried to find it online but there is nothing and link in your post does not work. I was wondering about 3 CBs formation, Who do we mark there? So if understand this right: MY CF will man mark your MC/DMC and MY MC/DMC will Man mark your AMC/CF Thank you bringing this up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mr Hough said: I think what rock it is trying to explain is where you go into the player settings and manually select Man Marking from a specific player/position. This is something i have never used before and would be interested to test this as could be a good way to neutralise the AM by using a DM/Volante to man mark him out of the game.... Interesting. Thank you very much for paraphrase. That's basically what it means.There are a lot of football terms in FM, but it is very difficult to translate them from Chinese to English. My way to achieve this is to ask a striker to withdraw to the opponent's centre midfield and a midfielder to retract to stare at the opponent's AMC or DLF, in order to increase the lack of control in the middle. As shown in the pictures ~ Edited February 5, 2020 by RockIt147 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, sverige91 said: It seems to be very very interesting concept, I tried to find it online but there is nothing and link in your post does not work. I was wondering about 3 CBs formation, Who do we mark there? So if understand this right: MY CF will man mark your MC/DMC and MY MC/DMC will Man mark your AMC/CF Thank you bringing this up http://www.playgm.cc/thread-926651-1-1.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, sverige91 said: It seems to be very very interesting concept, I tried to find it online but there is nothing and link in your post does not work. I was wondering about 3 CBs formation, Who do we mark there? So if understand this right: MY CF will man mark your MC/DMC and MY MC/DMC will Man mark your AMC/CF Thank you bringing this up my ML man-marking your WBR，while my MR man-marking your WBL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, RockIt147 said: My 'misplaced-man-marking' expression is not accurate, which means manually asking my PF to keep eye on man-marking your DM or MC, my MC to keep eye on marking your AMC or DLF, etc. I tried it mid-match vs Watford, I am Everton and scored 2 goals in 30 min + It was stable, no direct counter attack, Will try more in upcoming matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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