Chr1s Lawson Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Ibra is excellent but his wages and his feelings towards Wenger put him in the unrealistic category I don't think he has any bad feelings towards Wenger having read his book. Zlatan just doesn't do auditions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Sorry, we should have offered £1m more than the asking price why exactly? We should have signed him. What are you smoking over there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 So we should offered way more than the 'release clause' just because? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yes, get the deal done and get the title won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Even John Henry said clearly there was a clause but because he felt contracts were useless he decided not to sell? Should Arsenal have wasted 6 months going to court? Then Gerrard convinced Suarez to stay anyway. What a weird thing to bash the club on as Liverpool had no intention to sell him to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yes' date=' get the deal done and get the title won.[/quote']Ahhhh get it done. We should just get it done. Like on FIFA. Or FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Or like any other big club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yep, every other big club nets their targets. 100% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 They have a much better success rate than we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Which big club would purposely pay £5-10m than a clearly stated release clause just to look purposeful? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Which big club would purposely pay £5-10m than a clearly stated release clause just to look purposeful? There wasn't a clearly stated release clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Sorry, we should have offered £1m more than the asking price why exactly? Adding an extra £1 is insulting. If we had a release clause for bids over £30M for Cesc and Barcelona offered £30M+£1 we'd rightfully think they were smug *****. If we'd offered enough money we'd have got Suarez. We had the money so there was no excuse not to go for it. As someone else said though we're not aggressive in the transfer market we just take advantage of situations that randomly pop up like Ozil, Alexis and Cech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_14 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Adding an extra £1 is insulting. If we had a release clause for bids over £30M for Cesc and Barcelona offered £30M+£1 we'd rightfully think they were smug *****. If we'd offered enough money we'd have got Suarez. We had the money so there was no excuse not to go for it. As someone else said though we're not aggressive in the transfer market we just take advantage of situations that randomly pop up like Ozil, Alexis and Cech. If its a proper release clause there is nothing a club should be able to do about it. Id happily pay just £1 over to talk to the player and then tell him and his agent the extra £10m saved will go on their wages/agents fee. That should be enough to turn the players head. With Suarez I feel he would have ended up at Barca regardless of what we bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If its a proper release clause there is nothing a club should be able to do about it. Id happily pay just £1 over to talk to the player and then tell him and his agent the extra £10m saved will go on their wages/agents fee. That should be enough to turn the players head. With Suarez I feel he would have ended up at Barca regardless of what we bid. Not in 2013. Suarez didn't yet have his best season, and Barcelona hadn't put together the money to acquire him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I think the main barrier to us getting Suarez was that we weren't a big enough lure for him. If it had been Barcelona calling he may have kicked up more of a fuss when his release clause was met and demanded that Liverpool let him go. If his intention was to join one of the mega clubs he may have felt that joining Arsenal would hinder that move and staying put at Liverpool was the best choice at that time. It would have been great to have got him but that is also speaking from hindsight as none of us knew quite how devastating he would be in the season that followed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 True, it would have been difficult. We would have had to throw silly money at him, which would still be worth it. While it is true that we had no idea he was going to have the season he did in 13/14, his past record was enough. He was already a 20+ league goal striker, that brought way more than just goals. Been Liverpool's top scorer and best player. Already part of the PFA team of the year in 12/13. I mean, I became his fan when I saw his Copa America 2011 performance. This guy was performing at a high level for years before he reached new heights in 13/14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Have you guys seen this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Have you guys seen this: It was plastered all over Facebook this morning by my Spurs supporting friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Heh. Linking it to the Barcelona game is a bit odd seeing as that's the one game recently you can't really accuse us of choking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 You have Spurs supporting friends? I've alienated all potential friends who supported Spurs with my relentless and often deeply offsensive **** taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 That tweet shown towards the end "Specialist in Arsenal" is brilliant Also, did ajw just dismiss Higuian and say he'd be happy to go into next season with Danny Welbeck as plan A? Arsene Wenger in disguise?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 No, to be fair, he meant he'd like a better striker, but does believe there is any available (Higuain dismissed as a bad match) so Welbeck is the best we can have. He would rather us focus on acquiring players in positions where better players are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 Yep, precisely. Any top striker, whilst welcome, would just paper over the giant crack that is our midfield. We can't control football matches and that's our biggest problem as it stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Oh dear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 In Portugal they would have been slammed for being so happy after basically throwing away another meaningless season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Mesut is prepping his new best French mate, since Flamini will be leaving at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Is Macey that **** that he couldn't come on for 20 minutes? Ospina looks dodgy. Apparently we have a recall clause for Martinez so should be alright if he's gonna be out for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Lukaku 0-1 Welbeck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.O.V.I Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Best we have looked in a while especially the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark. Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Lukaku 0-1 Welbeck While I'm a fan of Welbeck too, hardly fair to compare when their teams are setup completely differently. That said, Welbeck played great today, especially that first half! Goal was succulent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I thought we played well, possibly best I've seen us since the United game at home. Bounced back from the Barca defeat better than I expected and the team looked promising, Welbeck and Iwobi especially looking good. That being said take nothing away from how poor Everton were. That really is not the Everton we've come to expect in recent years especially at Goodison Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Very pleasing performance, actually enjoyed watching it. Just need to kick on, we're not winning the league but the least they can do is put on performances! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Looks like AJW and myself might have been right about Welbeck helping the team more than just finishing better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Looks like AJW and myself might have been right about Welbeck helping the team more than just finishing better... Still remember when you guys were on the attack and Bellerin cut inside and lost the ball on the edge of the D. everton had quite a good break and I noticed who was challenging Barkley and it was Welbeck. He did not get the ball mind but he went past Iwobi, Bellerin, Ozil & Sanchez on the way back to his own defence to try and stop Barkley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Looks like AJW and myself might have been right about Welbeck helping the team more than just finishing better... Give yourself a massive pat on the back. Your point about Julio Baptista and Francis Jeffers was also sensational. Congrats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Sensationalism is the bane of our existence but so is Lukaku's performance today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Agent Cesc doing his best there to make sure we get top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Best we have looked in a while especially the first half. Well, fourth place is in jeopardy - the players are super motivated again. Good win though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I really like Elneny, we actually have a central midfield again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFootballManager Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Elneny is turning out to be a absolute steal. Very comfortable in possession and puts the opposition under a lot of pressure. I actually prefer it when Elneny + Coq partner together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I agree. He brings a lot of movement into our midfield. Not just his own movement, but the ability to move the ball around. If his partner could move like he can, we'd be very difficult to press, and our front 4 would not have to ever drop deep to pick up the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Still remember when you guys were on the attack and Bellerin cut inside and lost the ball on the edge of the D. everton had quite a good break and I noticed who was challenging Barkley and it was Welbeck. He did not get the ball mind but he went past Iwobi, Bellerin, Ozil & Sanchez on the way back to his own defence to try and stop Barkley He is a hero. Still amazed we have him. Elneny is a very nice player he does all the things Coquelin doesn't (disciplined positioning, showing for the ball) and is safer than Cazorla deep (doesn't try to run it out and actually is a CM). Not sure if he is a long term starter for us though. If he is he has to be able to either play the DM role and then partner Ramsey or he needs to improve in the final third and we need to buy someone else who can pass from deep. Either way not Coquelin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Xhaka from Gladbach would have to be the number 1 priority as it seems he's a realistic option in that role. Probably see Elneny being converted to a DM, helps him and Ramsey have massive engines which would probably be a better option in the PL than in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Xhaka from Gladbach would have to be the number 1 priority as it seems he's a realistic option in that role. Probably see Elneny being converted to a DM, helps him and Ramsey have massive engines which would probably be a better option in the PL than in Europe. Also linked with Jorginho from Napoli who is a no frills recycle possession kind of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayub95 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Going to need a good passer through the lines preferably to get the ball to Özil quicker and higher up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/arsenal-want-xhaka-meet-dad-prepare-bid-43m-fee-5m-for-player-2-3 What sort of midfielder is Xhaka? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/arsenal-want-xhaka-meet-dad-prepare-bid-43m-fee-5m-for-player-2-3What sort of midfielder is Xhaka? Strong passer strong tackler with disciplinary problems, been sent off 3 times in 23 games in the bundesliga this season. Red cards aside he probably is the sort of player we are looking for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 FF question here guys...is Cech 100% back this weekend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Imagine Arda Turan trying to take the **** out of us when he's a glorified bench warmer at Barca that's looked out of place pretty much every time he's played this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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