Starskysdad Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The only thing wrong with this tactic that I can see is that it is not delivered by hand by a naked thai lady of a disreputable nature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswibbs Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 going great in my Arsenal save so far will update later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGN Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Starskysdad - I agree! have implemented the tweaks recommended by macca72 in post 73 for away games and these work a treat. Well done Mr Hough, great tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Starskysdad - I agree! have implemented the tweaks recommended by macca72 in post 73 for away games and these work a treat. Well done Mr Hough, great tactic When it comes to width, it's quite narrow so do i have to put it to number 17 for example or just 2 clicks from where it is? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooter7th Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 welcome back dave and welcome back 433 !! my much preferred way of playing i used similar to your fm10 formation in my online game ...if you recall i posted so at the time this year i have tried every formation , coming to the conclussion that i just dont like the way wide formations play have just finished my first season at stockport , winning the league with 112 points loosing just once to 2nd placed chesterfield , im my online game (CLAN) i started dreadfull and half way thru season was bottom after tinkering with a 4123 i found on here i started to play smart , quick diamond passing and creating bag fulls of chances for the strikers even thou i have done so well , it never seems to quite work properly my midfielders all ways seem to be bumping into my str and stl , the str and stl also seem to struggle to get involved LOOKING at your tactic , we have the strikers very similar ..... but our midfield and defence are set up totally different i will now have a bash with your tac to see what your changes make to my new season thanks dave , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulic5647 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 im using mr houghs but im worried about this bug with copying instructions over. can anyone help? jj919's post confused me on the archived bit thanks, paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 im using mr houghs but im worried about this bug with copying instructions over. can anyone help? jj919's post confused me on the archived bitthanks, paul what kind of bug ?? maybe MR hough can make screens of alle the instructions (corner def, att / free kick def ,att and the team instructions)?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankk Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 i have problems too with the bug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 im using mr houghs but im worried about this bug with copying instructions over. can anyone help? jj919's post confused me on the archived bitthanks, paul hello, if your just using 1 tactic and not tweaking then you have nothing to worry about, if you are tweaking and changing tactics then when you change tactics you need to make sure that the tactic screen is on normal ie showing the players on the left and the tactic screen on the right, the bug is if say you had the left side panel viewing your centreback ratings and then change to a new tactic then the old centreback ratings switch over, thats also the same for team instructions. hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankk Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 can anyone post here some screenshots of tactic instructions? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stribes Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 hi mr.hough...thank you for the tactic and i'm sorry for my bad bad english.. i would make some tweaks to my PC in your tactic but i can't resolve my problem... i would that my PC became to TC role during my possession(like a 41212) but always(any tweaks i made)he stay at the top...in a sort of 41221... mentality is 10 for PC and 17 for the other strikers...so i think it's right for my design of squad...isn't so... i tried many things but always the tactic stay to a sort of 41221...how can i switch to 41212?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samas21 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Gonna give this a go with Newcastle today I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Michael Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 My first result using your new tactic: Looks very promising! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Mr Hough can you upload filters to seach the best players for the positions? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 No wingers...i've just invested in three of the best wingers in my current game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmwhore Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 ive been tearing up every league with you 10.2 complete dominace (41212), is this very different from that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 Just got in from and it's great reading that this tactic is producing mostly all Positive results. Maybe a spot in the Beta testing for FM12 is on the Horizon for me now ha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayscfc Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 As i said in the OP the defence could use abit of work, I don't think it is a major issue though and if you have players with the Attributtes i have mentioned it will be fine.You could try the Match Preperation also. Either Team Blend or Defence Positioning would help. I would go with Team Blend though becuase that work on everything instead of just one Specfic area. Good Luck if you decide to keep using. I always use Team Blend, for some reason my sides work more like clockwork whenever I've chosen it. The players attributes seem ok as well, just created filters and most of my players appear Seeing as Shericas tactic has just fallen to bits (lost 5 out of the last 7, garbage performances, no idea what's going on), and the last time I can remember having my side anywhere near it's best was when I gave this tactic a go, I'll be switching back now to yours, giving it a full pre-season and seasons worth of testing in L2. Back to back promotions (hopefully, 9 points clear with 5 games to go, I should be going up again) with AFC Telford no disrespect to mr hough at all as i havent actually tried this tactic yet to form an opinion. I would just like to ask jayscfc if sherica's is actually better than this tactic and why? i too used shericas tactic and i found although it scored loads of goals it wasnt really defensively as sound as its attack, also i noticed after a while the tactic stared to loose its effectiveness.please give me a reply asap mate:) I don't think I gave it enough of a chance. I gave it a 5 game go which even I know isn't a good enough test for any tactic and it seemed to me that Shericas tactic was a little bit more defensively sound, especially down the flanks. Pretty much every goal I conceded during the 5 game test was from crosses into the box But, I've just noticed that myself about Shericas tactic. It's fallen to pieces, the fluid nature of passing is gone, no one can finish anymore, I'm leaking goals right, left and centre and the performances have turned absolutely dire. As I've said though, got 5 games left of this season, I'm going to switch to Mr Houghs tactic now just to attempt to guarantee promotion into L2 Let you know how I get on again, really don't feel like I tested it anywhere near good enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohitstrue! Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 dave, you new tatic with my (4 seasons in) man utd game is unstoppable! home and away! dont matter what team i play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawid Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Thank You Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madm0nkeh Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Seems like I appear to be one of the few who just can't get this tactic to work properly, perhaps being a top team without good players is the reason. Like the previous tactics the fullbacks are getting way too far forward. Jealous of the people who are getting this to work wonders! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 update from my blackpool game - first 5 games away against everton won 4-3 excellent result home against the scum man u lol thumped me 3-0 carling cup reserve team 5 southend 0 bless em brummies grrrr 6 - me 2 grrr wait for this result, blackpool 2- chelski 0 - amazing, pure class amazing lol big boy harwood player of the month 5 goals in 4 games from the centre, nearly gave up because of the scum result and my short attention span, glad i didnt will see how far i can take the mighty blackpool lol Mr Hough i have put in a request for you to be knighted, asked her majesty for some beers instead of tea lol updates more to come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Seems to work great for teams with great players but dont all tactics. I will keep trying this but it doesnt seem very good if you are underdogs. Would be interesting to see if anyone is having top results with lower teams in the prem because so far I have tried it with man u and it wins most games but so does most other tactics even the default ones. Then tried with a promoted Derby and then with Everton and it didnt pull any trees up at all. In fact I am finding that his tactic from last year is better than this one at the moment. Will give it a full season with everton and see what happens but so far the best iv found is frankies blitz tactic and Daves tactic from last years game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 is frankys blitz tactic actually any good? everyone seems to be talking about it and comparing other tactics to it. Can anyone who has used it give me an idea of the amount of goals it scores and concedes per season roughly? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixta79 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 is frankys blitz tactic actually any good? everyone seems to be talking about it and comparing other tactics to it. Can anyone who has used it give me an idea of the amount of goals it scores and concedes per season roughly?thanks ask the same question on the frankys blitz thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 is frankys blitz tactic actually any good? everyone seems to be talking about it and comparing other tactics to it. Can anyone who has used it give me an idea of the amount of goals it scores and concedes per season roughly?thanks Well there are no wonder tactics this year so far and i feel that thas alot down to strikers missing 90% of the chances they get. Tactics are far less important and the game is more realistic now, basically if you have the best players you will win and if you dont you will lose but i found the blitz tactic gave me a bit more threat than anything else i tried and turned a few games i expected to lose into draws and wins. Finished 5th in the prem with a promoted Derby side 1st season in prem with it so nothing like mr houghs tactic last year with which i could win any division with any team easily but its still decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chaminator Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Superb tactic, only gripe is that sometimes the other team can dominate me in possession, 60/40, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Seems to work great for teams with great players but dont all tactics. I will keep trying this but it doesnt seem very good if you are underdogs. Would be interesting to see if anyone is having top results with lower teams in the prem because so far I have tried it with man u and it wins most games but so does most other tactics even the default ones. Then tried with a promoted Derby and then with Everton and it didnt pull any trees up at all. In fact I am finding that his tactic from last year is better than this one at the moment. Will give it a full season with everton and see what happens but so far the best iv found is frankies blitz tactic and Daves tactic from last years game. Amazingly, i've just beat man u at Old Trafford in the quarters of the league cup (I'm Leeds first season). Try my tweaks from earlier on in the thread for away games, working great for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Amazingly, i've just beat man u at Old Trafford in the quarters of the league cup (I'm Leeds first season). Try my tweaks from earlier on in the thread for away games, working great for me. Will give it a go, its the away games im having trouble with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniv123 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 yeah aways games are little bit pain,But SI shud fix these Horrible CCC bug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 is frankys blitz tactic actually any good? everyone seems to be talking about it and comparing other tactics to it. Can anyone who has used it give me an idea of the amount of goals it scores and concedes per season roughly?thanks It's excellent. I've tried numerous so called 'top tactics' for FM11 but Frankies tactic is the best by far but that's not comparing it to Mr. H's new tactic as I've not got around to testing it out yet, simply because Frankies is working so well for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's excellent. I've tried numerous so called 'top tactics' for FM11 but Frankies tactic is the best by far but that's not comparing it to Mr. H's new tactic as I've not got around to testing it out yet, simply because Frankies is working so well for me. thanks, fair enough. the only thing is ive heard with Franky's tactic is that you have to sell all your creative midfielders in place of the more industrious and hard working type, in order for the tactic to work. Im not sure if i would like this. Is this true? Mr houghs tactics always allow for creative and the more hard working/ball winning midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcornall Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Have tried this for first half of a season with my Preston game - 2nd season in Premier League and had finished 13th last season before improving squad over summer. Really not working for me - am 17th and scoring hardly any, but conceding plenty. Perhaps the tactic just doesn't suit my players, but I'm not having the success of some of the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaliens Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 This tactic is liek a cheat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postman123 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 its not like a cheat its just well thought out and it works you will lose when you least expect it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaliens Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 thats why i said its 'like' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 Have tried this for first half of a season with my Preston game - 2nd season in Premier League and had finished 13th last season before improving squad over summer. Really not working for me - am 17th and scoring hardly any, but conceding plenty. Perhaps the tactic just doesn't suit my players, but I'm not having the success of some of the others. what you could try doing is having a look at the Player Requirements that i have stated in the OP, This will help you as these type of players fir the tactic perfectly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltjon Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 This tactic is liek a cheat! sorry, but, when you (all) post this kind of message, can you,please, post the team, the transfer and the team talk please.... because in your team you can have, messi, ronaldo, xavi, pato....pelè and maradona and you can win 10-0 against blackburn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver0 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 someone can upload Screenshot with team instructions, to see if team instructions are right in my save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaliens Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Sorry lads! I'm southampton, and i leave OI, teamtalks etc. to my assistant manager My team is all regens, all good players but won't win the title yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooter7th Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Superb tactic, only gripe is that sometimes the other team can dominate me in possession, 60/40, etc. have you managed to chance this yet , as im having the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Well no wonder you can't keep possession -.- Look at Team Settings, I give you a hint, Look at mentality. Yes it's on 20. You want to keep possession with such high attacking setting? I wish you luck . Switch it to round 13-14 and try . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 thanks, fair enough. the only thing is ive heard with Franky's tactic is that you have to sell all your creative midfielders in place of the more industrious and hard working type, in order for the tactic to work. Im not sure if i would like this. Is this true?Mr houghs tactics always allow for creative and the more hard working/ball winning midfielders. I'm only half way through my first season with the tactic but I think you can still have a creative type of midfielder in there as long as he has at least 14ish in teamwork and work rate. I'm playing somebody in there with 14 in teamwork and work rate and with high creativity, a bit of an all rounder but leaning towards the creative side and he has been outstanding all season as has the tactic. It's still early days using the tacit though so don't take my word as gospel. Edit - PM me if you have any more questions as I don't want to high jack this thread with somebody else's tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I know Mr.H said he doesnt use match prep. but does this mean he leaves it to his assistant? what would you recommend i set it to for an original man utd team with only one new player (modric) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Match Preperation is up to you, Or you can leave it to your Assistant Manager.Team Talks Either do them yourself or if you want your Assistant Manager to do them make sure he has good Stats in Motivation Man Management and Determination. Pitch Size is Minimum. No opposition Instructions at all He also said that if you want to manually set up Match Preparation is best to set it to Team Blend (as it focuses on all areas and not just one). Worload on Average/Medium is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 my ass is telling that there is far too much space between the attack and midfield he has 10 as tactical knowledge. should i ignore this message? Pls reply, I already posted this question and still didn't get any answers! thanks in advance! PS: If I lower the mentatility to one of the 2 strikers(STCR or STCL) by 3 notches to match the mentality of the CMs the message goes away! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 to anyone that has tried both mr hough and frankys blitz tactic, which tactic is better in your own opinion? or what are the differences in the style of play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 to anyone that has tried both mr hough and frankys blitz tactic, which tactic is better in your own opinion? or what are the differences in the style of pla I've been testing both for the last couple of hours, and is really hard to say wich one is better. One thing I'm sure: they are by far the 2 best tactics in this forum, so I think I'm going to use them both, because dispite being similar in formation, they are different in style of play. So if one seems to be struggling in a particular match I just trow in the other one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooter7th Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 same , i have been trying both also franky blitz you have way more possesion and in defence its way more sound ....but you create not many chances and the strikers dont perform the same as they do on mr houghs ..even thou they have the same settings mr houghs version you create loads more ccc , but possesion is a real struggle i have been trying to combine the 2 , so far its not working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupmachine Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 First game with this tactic: Man Utd 15 - 0 Bury Scorers: Rooney 6, Berbatov 4, Macheda 3, Carrick, Owen Man Utd Shots 35 Man Utd CCC 16 Bury Shots 0 Pretty damn good for a first game with no preparation at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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