lukekarts Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Maybe peculiar to just me, managing Chelsea in the FM12 demo... First week... Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Rejected. Second week... Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Rejected. Third week...Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Rejected - Set McEachran Auto-Reject -> Reject All Offers etc... Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. No kidding, this went on on a weekly basis for the entire pre-season until the window closed. I would not normally pick up on this but it became such a regular occurence... Mancini just wouldn't take the hint. Has this kind of thing happened to any of you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I'm Arsenal in the demo and City have made 100 offers on Ryo Miyaich . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlypop69 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Had a quick go as Chelsea and yeah the same annoying thing was happening for me too =/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 at least the AI tries to buy young players now ehh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtradj Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 sounds like a bug, report it you would have expected the offers to increase then fade, but same offer every week? oh dear. who tested this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If that's bug, was Chelsea doing the same thing re. Modric through August a bug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlypop69 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 No, as they actually upped the price IRL with each offer made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If that's bug, was Chelsea doing the same thing re. Modric through August a bug? To be fair, Chelsea actually increased their bids for Modric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregUK Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If that's bug, was Chelsea doing the same thing re. Modric through August a bug? Think you will find Chelsea were increasing bid, not offering same every time for Modric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Things Could Get Messi Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 u should of set his asking price to 15 or 20m. this normally stops teams from bidding unless they actually want to spend that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 u should of set his asking price to 15 or 20m. this normally stops teams from bidding unless they actually want to spend that much. That's a good point. I always set it at a figure that I would be happy to sell them at so it becomes a win, win situation. They either withdraw or offer you a lot of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizza Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 u should of set his asking price to 15 or 20m. this normally stops teams from bidding unless they actually want to spend that much. True, but you shouldn't have to do that to avoid unrealistic AI behaviour! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 its not unrealistic. its city we are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 its not unrealistic. its city we are talking about. Unrealistic that they are only offering £4.3m over and over again. If it was Manchester City they would keep increasing the price until they got him and probably would of started bidding at around £15m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If that's bug, was Chelsea doing the same thing re. Modric through August a bug? incase you didnt know Chelsea upped their bid each time mind you offering peanuts then upping it to peanuts and a bag of m&ms' doesnt really count Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 incase you didnt know Chelsea upped their bid each time mind you offering peanuts then upping it to peanuts and a bag of m&ms' doesnt really count Haha, I thought Chelsea went up to £40m? If that's peanuts to you then your bank balance is looking a lot better than mine, mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I dont think they got anywhere near £40m, i thought it was around £20m and a few offers up but below £30m overall. Could be wrong obviously!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo_Cienfuegos Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 From what I can gather the players asking price for McEachran must of been around £4.3M, so Chelsea mbid that. The asking price was not raised so Chelsea bid that again etc etc. I wouldn't say its a bug, just the AI being a bit thick and of course artificial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baresi Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 after all what i've read and this includes this thread .. i will wait until patch 1 or better 2 to start playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slawbawn Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 From what I can gather the players asking price for McEachran must of been around £4.3M, so Chelsea mbid that. The asking price was not raised so Chelsea bid that again etc etc. I wouldn't say its a bug, just the AI being a bit thick and of course artificial. If Chelsea are bidding on their own player, it's definitely a bug I dont think they got anywhere near £40m, i thought it was around £20m and a few offers up but below £30m overall. Could be wrong obviously!! Pretty sure they did get up to 40m at one point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blidly Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Its your tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 after all what i've read and this includes this thread .. i will wait until patch 1 or better 2 to start playing. your gonna wait for a bug fix for something that is not a bug.. great.. logic wins here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Pretty sure they did get up to 40m at one point! I thought they were holding out for around £40M or more, im sure i remember Harry saying that in an interview, again tho i could be wrong and you could be right. If so ill change my statement to a bag of peanuts and 2 bags of m&m's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I thought they were holding out for around £40M or more, im sure i remember Harry saying that in an interview, again tho i could be wrong and you could be right.If so ill change my statement to a bag of peanuts and 2 bags of m&m's I think the media's assumption was that Tottenham were holding out for £40m but I genuinely believed Harry when he said he wasn't for sale full stop. I think it was right towards the end of the transfer window when Chelsea offered £40m. Either way, I really fancy a bag on M&M's now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukekarts Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 Well I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's not a major issue and I found it quite amusing; no 'asking price' was set so I'll make sure an unrealistically high one is set in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Set his asking price to something like 20m. And this will deter offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srwlml23 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 your gonna wait for a bug fix for something that is not a bug.. great.. logic wins here Said the guy who knows everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossArsenal Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 if you set to Reject all offers then u wont have to deal with this all the time, Only a small Message to say its still being rejected. Not a massive issue but is a Slight small 1. the demo is almost Bugless this year cant wait to play it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 To the multiple responses to my Modric example, I suspect Chelsea put in more bids than were reported. Okay, for a better example, how about Barcelona going for Fabregas? I read an interview with a manager a few weeks ago who said that during the transfer window he was getting 30 phone calls and emails a day requesting to buy his players - I'm sure many were for the same player and the same price, waiting to see if the player or club cracked. It's tedious, but unfortunately not unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 For me this is just Man City trying to unsettle the lad & force a situation whereby you either accept the bid or have an unhappy player, there are solutions to the problem that can be used in FM however the one aspect that I think is missing from the game would be a press release from the player telling Mancini that he is not interested in a move & that he should look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 That's definitely a bug considering how often its happening with the price being the same everytime. This wouldn't happen this often in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Messed up research it sounds like. Man City would not be chasing these players irl, they have shown they are after big names and youth projects with no establishment, eg. Under 16s. Also the other club wouldn't sell them. If there's one thing that annoys me of FM its how they overrate PL players when the PL imports more players than it produces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham206 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 If you don't want bids for the player at price x go to the player's contract page and set a minimum fee you would consider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coen Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Probably only happening on the demo because of the small database on the English quickstart - so on the demo there are very few potential transfer targets for the AI clubs to go for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Happened with jack robinson for me at liverpool too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Messed up research it sounds like. Man City would not be chasing these players irl, they have shown they are after big names and youth projects with no establishment, eg. Under 16s. Also the other club wouldn't sell them.If there's one thing that annoys me of FM its how they overrate PL players when the PL imports more players than it produces. Clubs always pay a premium for PL players in real life, it's by no means a problem in FM it's just reflecting the real life market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Probably only happening on the demo because of the small database on the English quickstart - so on the demo there are very few potential transfer targets for the AI clubs to go for. could be.. theres only 6-7000 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSpur Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Don't know if it's been pointed out... but Chelsea increased their bid for Modric throughout the summer. In case that bit was missed at all in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 And Modric is a star name not some unproven youngster. Why would City bid so often(every week infact)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Yip had the same thing with Miyachi at Arsenal. Bids of 2.8m over and over again from City. Auto reject is fine, but why do we still need a news item about it everytime. What is the point of auto reject when the news story still pops up every time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Yip had the same thing with Miyachi at Arsenal. Bids of 2.8m over and over again from City.Auto reject is fine, but why do we still need a news item about it everytime. What is the point of auto reject when the news story still pops up every time! Well this just confirms to me that its a bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeceyg123 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I dont think they got anywhere near £40m, i thought it was around £20m and a few offers up but below £30m overall. Could be wrong obviously!! Last day of the transfer window they bidded £40 million for him as a chelsea fan i would know this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Well this just confirms to me that its a bug. Really!?? If there was an auto-reject, you'd prefer not to know about any bids. Surely, in real life, if you had some form of agreement with the board to reject any bid out-of-hand you would still expect to be made aware that a bid had been lodged? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinsFan86 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Maybe peculiar to just me, managing Chelsea in the FM12 demo...First week... Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Rejected. Second week... Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Rejected. Third week...Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Rejected - Set McEachran Auto-Reject -> Reject All Offers etc... Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. Manchester City made a £4.3m bid for Josh McEachran. Automatically Rejected. No kidding, this went on on a weekly basis for the entire pre-season until the window closed. I would not normally pick up on this but it became such a regular occurence... Mancini just wouldn't take the hint. Has this kind of thing happened to any of you? Playing as Liverpool and they keep making offers for Jack Robinson. Started at 4.3 mil, went gradually up to 7.75 mil (i think), and then back down. The past couple offers have been the original 4.3 mil. I've probably rejected 10 offers for him, all from Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Really!?? If there was an auto-reject, you'd prefer not to know about any bids. Surely, in real life, if you had some form of agreement with the board to reject any bid out-of-hand you would still expect to be made aware that a bid had been lodged? Not sure why you quoted me then made an entirely different point but yes really. The fact its happening in every game(well ok, more than one game not every) all these times, something ain't right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Not sure why you quoted me then made an entirely different point but yes really. The fact its happening in every game(well ok, more than one game not every) all these times, something ain't right. I must've misunderstood your response. You appeared to respond to the comment you quoted re: receiving a news item every time a bid is made and auto-rejected, that such an instance confirmed your opinion that there is a bug. And it was to that I replied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 then reject the bid, with the "offer isn't good enough" statement they usually come back with a better offer i've used this for Miyaichi, managed to get the AI up to 6.5m edit: still rejected that offer mind, but the offers did improve (about 1m per time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Clubs always pay a premium for PL players in real life, it's by no means a problem in FM it's just reflecting the real life market. For established players, not unproven talent. Especially Man City who you can see IRL only sign proven nternationals or Under 16 players for their youth setup. They don't sign this kind of player. The premium price is to do with the need to have a set number of English players in the team not because they really really need them or value them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I must've misunderstood your response. You appeared to respond to the comment you quoted re: receiving a news item every time a bid is made and auto-rejected, that such an instance confirmed your opinion that there is a bug. And it was to that I replied. Was just stating that the fact its happening elsewhere just confirms to me somethings wrong. Sorry for confusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley21 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I hate when this happens, it's unrealistic at best and retardedly lazy programming at it's worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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