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MR L is 1st independent test and FM Base 2nd independent test.

They use different set ups but I don.t know how they put the tests together.

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Hi Guys, back into the football manager game after a few years and started a new save with Man United. 

Can anyone recommend one of these decent tactics for them? I've looked at the spreadsheet and got confused as there are loads. The 442 ones dont seem  to accommodate for Paul Pogba, the roles. I started using the 451 one but when i looked on the spreadsheet it was ranked quite low so was worried it wouldn't be a success?

Should I continue with this or is there a better one for Man United to use? 

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42 minutes ago, knap said:

Wulf 442 DL P101 Set up with MU

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How did this one perform over a testing season? Would like to see the league table with points and goals done + concede.

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@knap

all tactics tested on 20.2.3; Now test Madasahatter half season(20.2.3) next half season(20.2.4). After I test tactic Wulf442P101

20.2.4 Changelist:

– Improved one-on-one finishing
– Recalculations regarding clear-cut chances
– Tweaks to penalty kick conversion rates
– Improved crossing variation and instruction behaviour
– Improved defensive tracking from long balls
– Improvements/tweaks to referee behaviour
– Various other balancing tweaks/improvements

Edited by erzet17

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@Dreambuilder

 

With the Beta out, it is pointless making or testing tactics, as we know the ME will change. FM Base has stopped testing.

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@stian

 

Wingers are on support, but I've not added tactic to list, although tested on FM Base.

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2 hours ago, knap said:

Wulf 442 DL P101 Set up with MU

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Thanks for this. This was the second formation i used on them. I drew against everton then got hammered by City but thinking that was more cause i should have changed the mentality to Positive in both games?

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eencaeYesterday at 20:30

http://bit.ly/eencae_analysis Quick recap: re-played MUFC vs LFC 10 times with various combinations of mentality/DL/LOE. Now re-playing the return fixture LFC vs MUFC. The best home combination (out of those tested) was Positive/Much Higher/Much Higher with a win percentage of 70% and points per game of 2.3. Tried this first for the away game and it dropped to 10%/0.3.

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On 15/01/2020 at 20:51, knap said:

@askeyt

 

I did a 99pt version, which I am not sure I ever posted and Par1s has a version which is not posted.

You are welcome to try them.

Thanks Knap! I wouldn't mind a bash at them if you could point me in the direction of the download link?

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3 hours ago, knap said:

Wulf 442 DL P101 Set up with MU

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Where can I find that tac?

cheers

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You can win league with the 4231 at bottom of list. My 433 is weaker than the 4231 but can still win league.

Many just want to use a certain formation and make it work. If you look at testing then it is more orientated towards 442 type tactics.

If you look at MU squad they can certainly play a 433 as they can a 451. or 442.

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Tested tactic: MadasaHatterP98AllCups, ACMilan 1st season 2033/2034 (half season on patch 20.2.3; Next half on patch 20.2.4), only 4 losess, RMadrid better in UCL (1of16). Preffer 442. Played games, no OI's.

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If anyone is looking for a top tactic for a dominant team in the league to destroy teams that park the bus or against defensive teams on 20.2.4 beta, Beowulf P107 442 seems to be working wonders again. 25-0  GD after 5 games. More precisely, 14-0 in 2 games against bottom teams, 11-0 against subtop and top teams in 3 games. Set pieces are deadly, strikers are scoring a lot, wingers and wingbacks getting regular assists, midfielders scoring screamers. Thanks Knap, for how it plays out, it almost feels like a exploit tactic.

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BEOWULF 442 P107 has tested above all tactics on FM Base test in FM 20.2.4.

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First, thanks Knap for all the great tactics, i have a preference to 4-4-2 tactics so this year is a bliss

Had a fine game on 20.2.3 with scillian as home and leipzig as away tactic with 2 successive promotions

Now iam looking to start a new game in the new beta version with venom vol2 and lookaway tactics but i never tried tactics with IWB before

So, I was asking if IWB should have at least a strong other foot same as IW and IF? Do you think that these 2 tactics would perform better than my previous tactics in the new ME? also it'd be nice if you can suggest which of the 2 tactics should be used for home and away games

Thanks again.

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@tagaddin

 

IWBs I treat as normal WBs, no opposite foot.

I wold have use Sicilian and Sympathy the other way round. I would use look away  Away as with a DM, and Venom at home.

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2 hours ago, knap said:

@tagaddin

 

IWBs I treat as normal WBs, no opposite foot.

I wold have use Sicilian and Sympathy the other way round. I would use look away  Away as with a DM, and Venom at home.

Thanks :thup:

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Hi all great tactics a always i am curious i am using 3322 tactic  1st season i won the league lost the cup but now i am 8th match of the second season and for some reason i have 3wins 4 draws and 1 defeat i dont know why .. any ideas or can you suggest a tactic to swap?

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@ardat

Just mix it up a bit. Argus 352 is similar or use say a 442 Wulf.

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Could anybody post the player instructions for ARGUS 3322, please?

My PC is dead, so i cant import the tactic to my iPad 😰

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11 minutes ago, knap said:

You an use I tunes to import

Any way to do it without a PC? I found instructions on how to do it, but it said I first would have to download the tactic to my PC and then share the file via iTunes. But without my PC i’m stuck..

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Should I let my assistant manager handle opposition instructions or just ignore them completely?

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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Paulinho26:

Where have you got 20.2.4? I have 20.2.3 yet and nothing on steam...

 

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1 hour ago, EirikB said:

Should I let my assistant manager handle opposition instructions or just ignore them completely?

I think you should ignore OI, it can affect team shape and tactics would be less effective

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22 hours ago, knap said:

@knapYou can win league with the 4231 at bottom of list. My 433 is weaker than the 4231 but can still win league.

Many just want to use a certain formation and make it work. If you look at testing then it is more orientated towards 442 type tactics.

If you look at MU squad they can certainly play a 433 as they can a 451. or 442.

Which 4231? And for the beta engine?

Edited by AlexanderJSE

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The best 4231 is Parisienne.

I've only looked at a few tactics but all performed better than in 20.3

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@knap as i have seen your "best" tactic is wulf 442 can you say why ? Or which you believe is the best as far at 20.2.3?

Edited by ArdatLili

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Tested tactic: WULF442P101, half season (2034/2035) ACMilan on patch 20.2.4. PLayed games, on OI's

Results in UCL are incredible, 1st time knap tac's dropped from group stage. The worst in league 72% acc passes. Strikers are useless in this tac.

@knap 

It's cross tactic or new cross engine? 75+% goals from crosses and after crosses(11-19meters). Long balls behind defenders don't work. No one conceded/scored

edit: France World Cup (winner) results before Milano. Mbappe in my save 215 games - 185 goals (France manager 2026-???) 

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Edited by erzet17

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@erzet17

 

Odd as it is testing better in 20.3.4. Would be interesting to see hoe Beowulf 442 P107 is the same

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FM 20.2 Tactics

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPEDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

 

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc)

Sub Top 5-10 in League

Sub Mid 11-15

Underdog the rest

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

 

 

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let me few days, in 20.2.3 tested BOEWULF442P107 (France 2026-2030) great results and tested WULF4132P10? in 2 others club (better players/reputation=more cups)

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@erzet17

Wulf DL 442 is the dropped DL version of Beowulf 442 P107, and both had identical patch tests.

 

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2nd season with Az Alkmaar, i have played the toughest matches away with wulf 4132 106pt iwb + lower dline+no offiside + regroup and some other tweaks that are @tpalan's ideas and I busted Bayern and Atletico Madrid away  1-0.  

At home 4132 look away.

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Tested tactic: WULF442DLP101, ACMilan (2034/2035), patch 20.2.4. Strikers are uselles, No Cups. The worst tactic was i tested or weakness players.

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