x42bn6 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We need someone dependable and willing to sit on the bench - a van der Gouw or Kuszczak (at least initially), if you will. Begović doesn't fit into that profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I just don't see Begovic being happy as a back-up for a younger, better keeper. He's 25, pretty much first choice the last three years, don't see him fancying a change in that aspect unless it's for a much older keeper who's soon to retire It's not on that link but I saw 15m for Begovic as well. 15m ... for a back up keeper. Nah. Nah to getting 15m for him as well tbh Basically, Stoke signed Butland so Begovic is no doubt going somewhere so may as well link him with you. IIRC this happened to Stoke before though. They signed Begovic as they thought Sorenson was leaving but Sorenson stayed so ended up with the pair of them (think it was like that or the other way around). I am sure Butland won't want that happening this summer I guess it depends if Reina goes as no doubt he will be linked there too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We need someone dependable and willing to sit on the bench - a van der Gouw or Kuszczak (at least initially), if you will. Begović doesn't fit into that profile. Steve Harper of Newcastle hasn't been given a new deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I have little doubt that Stoke plan to keep Begovic for one more season while Butland settles in to the club tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 There's no sense, there's no chance we're after him Unless DDG is bringing his Spanish departure forward a season. We might just be covering our options if he kicks up a strop to replace either Valdes or Casillas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Not. A. Chance. I'll add an "In. Hell" if you want, too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Not. A. Chance.I'll add an "In. Hell" if you want, too? I agree that it will not be Begovic that we bring but if Barcelona or Madrid made a bid for De Gea this summer, we will struggle to convince him that he should stay beyond 1 extra season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 There's no chance he leaves this summer. No chance. At all. In hell. However you want to put it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Or the season after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I'll add "the season after" to my previous one, yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 There was some chat that Begovic may be loaned out next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Was wondering when my post Notary Public would pop up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (legal) stream for the Dallas Cup game: http://www.dallascup.com/vid/506973.html Currently 1-1, Tyler Blackett bundled in a free kick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks. Caught the last 15 minutes and the penalty goal by Januzaj. Looked quite pedestrian, but I guess they were just controlling matters. 3-1 to united btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Daehli and Januzaj ran the game, multiple times where they had 3/4 players around them yet beat them all and came out with the ball. Good cameo from James Wilson again as well, great control and flick that won the penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Was it Joyce that you could hear barking orders from the touchline? He gave Barmby a torrid time in that second half, didn't let him stop running once Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 RVP scored twice for Holland, Rooney for England - our strikers on fire atm! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Meanwhile, Pogba was sent off. Kagawa scored too btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The first RvP goal was pretty damn good. The Pogba challenge was a yellow at worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 He got two yellows, didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebs Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 whereas hernandez just had an absolute shocker for mexico. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 He got two yellows, didn't he? Yeah, within about a minute. The first one looked like a 'strong' yellow too, messy Thanks for ruining everyone's fun, France Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9955396/Gary-and-Phil-Nevilles-father-Neville-Neville-arrested-over-alleged-sexual-assault.html The brilliantly named Neville Neville is facing some questions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 The Pogba challenge was a yellow at worst. Thanks for that pearl of wisdom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 When I saw it in sky sports news they just showed the tackle and the ref pulling out a red card. Didn't mention yellow card or that it was for two bookable offences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Nice. Darren Fletcher is back in light training. I don't really expect him to come back, especially at the level he was, but hopefully this means he is getting better. Must be a great boost for him to hang around Carrington again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Another Dallas Cup game today for our lot, are they streaming it again and if so, does anyone have the link? (obviously only the legal link, like last time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Nice. Darren Fletcher is back in light training. I don't really expect him to come back, especially at the level he was, but hopefully this means he is getting better. Must be a great boost for him to hang around Carrington again. If there is any hope of him playing next season then it'll be a bonus for him to have a couple of months conditioning work to get him up to something approaching a decent fitness level ahead of pre-season. Thought he was decent in his few outings in the new screening role, which Fergie suggested is the future for him if there is one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I thought he did okay enough too, but he didn't have the engine of his former self, which is natural I guess. However, if he comes back to some kind of competitiveness, that could be a reason to not sign a central midfielder this summer (in SAF's mind). With Anderson quite possibly leaving, to try to get into the Brazil team, we absolutely need a new body. If Carrick gets injured, we're completely boned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Just seen that Cattermole and Fletcher have been ruled out for the season for Sunderland. Has to be an almost complete second string against them this weekend. Would like Lindegaard Smalling Vidic Evans Buttner Anderson Powell Valencia Kagawa Young RvP then DdG Rafael Ferdinand Evans Evra Carrick Cleverley Welbeck Rooney Giggs Hernandez for Chelsea. Certain there's someone I've missed Working on the presumption that Jones is out fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I would be absolutely amazed if Powell gets a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Hold up, we're playing Saturday and then again on Monday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Hold up, we're playing Saturday and then again on Monday? Yep. Busy weekend ahead for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I knew we were playing Saturday and Monday, but it didn't click that it was 2 days apart until now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I knew we were playing Saturday and Monday, but it didn't click that it was 2 days apart until now Dumbass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Can we then assume Andrew thinks the Sunderland game is at least a week away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 No because I've planned to watch it before meeting up for a boat part this Saturday. And I'm working this Monday so couldn't pub the Chelsea game. smh. On second thoughts lets just assume i thought it was a week away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Come in number 11, your time is up. This come across this browsing through the thread (and I'm not picking on a single post here, the thread was virtually unanimous) but what a difference a few months makes... would love to know how he's turned it around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Lost 2-0 in the Dallas Cup, game wasn't streamed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 This come across this browsing through the thread (and I'm not picking on a single post here, the thread was virtually unanimous) but what a difference a few months makes... would love to know how he's turned it around. Similar every season isn't it? Always gears his training to start peaking after Christmas. Like Barca and their traditional mid-season lull before picking it up for the crucial time period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 That was posted after the Norwich game wasn't it? He was dreadful in that match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Interview with Macheda, pretty good read- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2300090/Federico-Macheda-interview-On-THAT-Manchester-United-goal-pictures-women-Facebook-future.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Interview with Macheda, pretty good read- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2300090/Federico-Macheda-interview-On-THAT-Manchester-United-goal-pictures-women-Facebook-future.html Was meant to have a better future than Danny "going to be an average winger" Welbeck iirc. Hope he gets a good permanent move this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yorke & Cole vs Rooney, Welbeck & Hernandez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I don't think there's actually that much between Welbeck & Macheda. Or that there was much between them. It's the perfect example of how loan moves can define a young players career. Welbeck got lucky in that his loan moves worked out whilst Macheda had really unlucky spells at clubs in disarray. Other good examples would be Cleverley & Fabio. Not saying Macheda would've kicked on the way Welbeck has but at the time there wasn't much between them when they were first breaking into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Macheda showed he could be absolutely lethal in the reserves, just really hasn't happened for him. Or he hasn't made it happen. His loans have been nothing short of a disaster though, which hasn't helped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Think it's more the type of player they are. Welbeck's had next to no luck in front of goal but is big, strong, quick, runs so hard and links play nicely, whereas Kiko's a deadly finisher but apart from being quickish and a bit of a unit never really had the opportunity to develop more to his game. Still think it's pretty criminal the amount of time wasted on Owen, particularly in his last two years, when Kiko (and others) could have got some minutes under their belt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 How much time was wasted on Owen? Please do tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 On the topic of injuries, Petrucci has been sent back from Peterborough, after yet more injuries. A fine player, but I think his time is kind of done here. He's not a kid any more and needs games, but he seems to be injured more than fit. Will be interesting to see how Will Keane gets on next season. Losing (almost) a whole year at that age is far from ideal. Hope he gets back into the swing of things though, and I think Wilson can play for the U18s next season too. Hopefully Keane does well until xmas or March, and can then get some first team football on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 How much time was wasted on Owen? Please do tell. Date Match Comp Result Mins Goals Assists Shots On target 28/08 2010 Man Utd H- West Ham Prem W 3-0 17 0 0 0 0 22/09 2010 Man Utd A- Scunthorpe CC W 2-5 90 2 0 0 0 26/09 2010 Man Utd A- Bolton Prem D 2-2 20 1 0 1 1 02/10 2010 Man Utd A- Sunderland Prem D 0-0 45 0 0 0 0 04/01 2011 Man Utd H- Stoke Prem W 2-1 12 0 0 0 0 09/01 2011 Man Utd H- Liverpool FAC W 1-0 16 0 0 1 0 22/01 2011 Man Utd H- Birmingham Prem W 5-0 36 0 0 1 0 29/01 2011 Man Utd A- Southampton FAC W 1-2 90 1 0 1 0 09/04 2011 Man Utd H- Fulham Prem W 2-0 18 0 0 0 0 04/05 2011 Man Utd H- Schalke 04 UCL W 4-1 14 0 0 1 1 22/05 2011 Man Utd H- Blackpool Prem W 4-2 28 1 0 2 1 20/09 2011 Man Utd A- Leeds CC W 0-3 90 2 0 1 0 24/09 2011 Man Utd A- Stoke Prem D 1-1 80 0 0 2 0 25/10 2011 Man Utd A- Aldershot CC W 0-3 90 1 0 1 1 for starters. 646 minutes over 14 games that made barely a jot of difference, but could have given a young player or players valuable exposure and experience. I've omitted games where he was brought on late on to chase a winner by suspending my disbelief that he'd make any difference. He was useful up until his injury in the the 2010 League Cup final; Hernandez was signed a little over a month later and the writing was on the wall by the time the World Cup was over. He'd got five goals before October was out and that should have been the end of Owen's practical involvement with us, but for whatever reason it wasn't. We'd be no worse off if Owen hadn't played those games but they could have made a difference to a King, Macheda, Diouf, Morrison, Petrucci, Tunnicliffe or Pogba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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