headshotbg Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 That's 8 goals in the games that you have listed, one every 80 mins... Not bad... Just saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Yorke & Cole vs Rooney, Welbeck & Hernandez Cole Love that guy too bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 That's 8 goals in the games that you have listed, one every 80 mins... Not bad... Just saying It's not so much a criticism of his performances, more of what wider benefit they were to the club. The only goals from there against Prem teams were a dead rubber vs. Blackpool and a percentages flick-on against Bolton where he was terrible. The rest were against lower league sides in the cups where it would have been a prime opportunity to give a young player/players some first team football, particularly when you consider someone like Pogba allegedly left due to lack of games while we were playing Park in midfield because we had to play strikers on the wing to accommodate Owen through the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Where's the City game on that list? He was worth it just for that. You need that bit of experience in games and around training, etc. Which was why Owen was there. I don't see the big deal. Hernandez proved his worth. No one else did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Where's the City game on that list? He was worth it just for that. Was before the time period I was referencing; i.e. where he was still a relevant option, before he got injured and we signed Hernandez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I wasn't paying much attention.. i just like that match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Think it's more the type of player they are. Welbeck's had next to no luck in front of goal but is big, strong, quick, runs so hard and links play nicely, whereas Kiko's a deadly finisher but apart from being quickish and a bit of a unit never really had the opportunity to develop more to his game. . Kiko has all the bits in bold (especially as he is bigger & stronger than Welbeck) too but I always saw more potential in Welbeck as a future first team player than Kiko. Macheda had that great record for reserves (and for the less involved United fans, his goal against Villa) to thank for the expectations placed on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Welbeck was helped by being able to play on the left. Macheda couldn't. So the limited time he did play he was isolated up front on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Welbeck was helped by being able to play on the left. Macheda couldn't. So the limited time he did play he was isolated up front on his own. That might not be as much of a blessing in the long term as he could end up becoming a permanent "okay-ish" wide player rather than a top striker. The sooner he is used centrally, the better it will be for him as in a flash he could change his style mid-game to one of many types......a battering ram point man, a forward comfortable in quick link play or just a speed merchant racing through on goal. Macheda will definitely come good, but he needs a permanent move away from us to a smaller club in a more technical league like Italy or Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Macheda was also not helped by playing as a lone striker (which really has never suited him so far) with utter ***** reserve line-ups for a lot of his first team appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Kiko has all the bits in bold (especially as he is bigger & stronger than Welbeck) too but I always saw more potential in Welbeck as a future first team player than Kiko. Macheda had that great record for reserves (and for the less involved United fans, his goal against Villa) to thank for the expectations placed on him. Yeah, I suppose the next bit of that sentence was more what I was focusing on; that Welbeck has that drive and determination whereas Kiko, though big, never really used his size or strength to his advantage. Though he's fairly quick (nowhere near Welbz mind) he's never been one to go in behind, but doesn't have the glorious first touch that Welbeck (usually) has to make him as effective linking play. But yeah, was always obvious to anyone who watched either player regularly that Welbeck was bound for stardom while Macheda could go either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kick off in 45 minutes. BBC reporting "no Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck or Ryan Giggs. Rafael, Michael Carrick, Antonio Valencia and Shinji Kagawa come into the team." Anyone got the full team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooders86 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 happy with that team. Where is Hernandez anyway,didn't see him on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hopefully means Nani starts on Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I <3 Buttner Would absolutely love it if he could develope well enough to be a regular fixture in our team. Just so damn likeable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 His playing style is likeable. From his off the pitch interviews he seems a bit crazy and a bit thick.Its great having proper wingbacks that can constantly hit the dead ball line though. What's there not to like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Take that. 1-0 He won't be getting the goal though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Bardsley proper **** his pants there, don't think he even thought of attempting to pressure RvP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Went to get a drink. Rafa injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Even the ref loves Buttner :*) Rafa :*( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 He won't be getting the goal though. I don't know about that. Jonjo Shelvey was awarded the goal when we played away to West Ham. God knows how he got that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 What odds we sell Young this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 What odds we sell Young this summer? Going to Everton as part of some Fellaini type deal? Just putting it out there agent stylee! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Went to get a drink. Rafa injured? I hope you're happy with yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Unfortunately what G Nev is saying about Sunderland is nothing to do with playing you lot. Weve been like this since Xmas. It's why we're the worst team in the league and getting relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I hope you're happy with yourself Wha ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I hope you're happy with yourself Sense. You make none Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The **** was that Carrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 ****ing hell ref, yellow for not touching him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Was half expecting a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Happened to N'diaye earlier to tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Whatever we do we must make sure Bardsley ends every Sunderland attack with a shot. Won't concede if we play for a month if we manage that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ouch. That hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Doubt he'll be coming for any more punches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Booooooooooo! Why are you stopping the game for a head injury??? Boooooooooooooooooooooo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's ridiculous isn't it. Same everywhere now though. I hate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 What do you hate...? If it's the boos then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw13 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wish we would get a second goal, can just see them getting a lucky 1 in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 What do you hate...? Ass ignorant fans who boo refs for doing their job properly, I will assume. Dave made Vida bleed. Just think on that for a minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Our fans booing De Gea head injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 RIP De Gea Vidic is a stone cold killer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidnv Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 And the sentence I've said to myself the most in 2013, Nani on for Valencia please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Even better when they run into him and get left on their back :*) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 We're going to concede. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Keep shooting Bardsley \o/ At least it keeps him from 'tackling' like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_goat Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Another boring performance, courtesy of the Young and Valencia combination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ooooooh Buttner :*) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Another boring performance, courtesy of the Young and Valencia combination I honestly don't think Fergie will give a damn as long as you pick up three points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I don't think anyone really gives a damn how entertaining this performance is if we win. It's still indicative of a bigger problem. If we didn't have Chelsea in two days we would definitely have seen Nani by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 25 wins in the first 30 games. Never been done before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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