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Buying/Selling: Selling

Player: Arshavin

My Team: Arsenal

Buying Team: Man City

Value: £5.75m

Offer: £1.6mil with £7mil over 30 months

Season: First

Bare in mind that i have just signed Willian who i see as already able to replace him

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Quick bit of help needed here guys. Never had Sakho before, and always looking for long term signings.

Buying/Selling: Buying

Player Name: Mamadou Sakho

Your Team: Chelsea

Buyer/Seller: PSG

Player's Value: £6 Million

Offer: £22.5 Million (20M 48 mths, 2.5M upfront)

Transfer/Wage Budget: £20 Million

Terry and Luiz have been solid all season; no reason to drop other than preparing for the future/rotation. City are interested in Luiz though, and a big offer might tempt me. Also, Alex is reserve CB but I plan on selling due to age. Sakho could be long term replacement for Terry; just had no experience managing him before.

Edit - I should also note that Kalas and Chalobah are looking very good and will come into the first team picture over the next 3 years. Possible future could be Sakho, Kalas, Chalobah and Papadopolous (yet to bid for)

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Buying/Selling: Selling

Player: Arshavin

My Team: Arsenal

Buying Team: Man City

Value: £5.75m

Offer: £1.6mil with £7mil over 30 months

Season: First

Bare in mind that i have just signed Willian who i see as already able to replace him

The only reason I could recommend you sell is because of the performance of Willian. I've splashed out on some big wingers/attacking mids, and Willian is my best performer.

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Quick bit of help needed here guys. Never had Sakho before, and always looking for long term signings.

Buying/Selling: Buying

Player Name: Mamadou Sakho

Your Team: Chelsea

Buyer/Seller: PSG

Player's Value: £6 Million

Offer: £22.5 Million (20M 48 mths, 2.5M upfront)

Transfer/Wage Budget: £20 Million

Terry and Luiz have been solid all season; no reason to drop other than preparing for the future/rotation. City are interested in Luiz though, and a big offer might tempt me. Also, Alex is reserve CB but I plan on selling due to age. Sakho could be long term replacement for Terry; just had no experience managing him before.

Edit - I should also note that Kalas and Chalobah are looking very good and will come into the first team picture over the next 3 years. Possible future could be Sakho, Kalas, Chalobah and Papadopolous (yet to bid for)

A lot of people rave about Sakho, but personally I've always found as good for cheaper. Have a serious look at Boyata, he can turn out to be outstanding. Also there's Kjaer and a guy who I was tracking but ended up at Barca Hoewdes (check spelling on that one).

If you can get any of those significantly cheaper, I'd leave Sakho...

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The only reason I could recommend you sell is because of the performance of Willian. I've splashed out on some big wingers/attacking mids, and Willian is my best performer.

Cheers mate, I was a bit sceptical with the money upfront and all that and yeah, Willian is amazing;)

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Quick bit of help needed here guys. Never had Sakho before, and always looking for long term signings.

Buying/Selling: Buying

Player Name: Mamadou Sakho

Your Team: Chelsea

Buyer/Seller: PSG

Player's Value: £6 Million

Offer: £22.5 Million (20M 48 mths, 2.5M upfront)

Transfer/Wage Budget: £20 Million

Terry and Luiz have been solid all season; no reason to drop other than preparing for the future/rotation. City are interested in Luiz though, and a big offer might tempt me. Also, Alex is reserve CB but I plan on selling due to age. Sakho could be long term replacement for Terry; just had no experience managing him before.

Edit - I should also note that Kalas and Chalobah are looking very good and will come into the first team picture over the next 3 years. Possible future could be Sakho, Kalas, Chalobah and Papadopolous (yet to bid for)

Sakho is easily a world class defender and very well rounded. He is quick on the turn, composed, decent on the ball, exceptionally strong and a great marker. On top of that he is a great influence on the team with his spirited personality and high influence. He is easily worth 22.5mil in my opinion.

btw. Make sure you try to develop Chalobah well, with his speed and ability on the ball he can really bring something special to a back line imo. Make sure he gets tutored at some point and maybe try to loan him out to a club where he can get first team football.

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Buying/Selling: Buying

Player Name: Eren Derdiyok

Your Team: Bayern Munchen

Buyer/Seller: Leverkusen

Player's Value: £5.5 Million

Offer: £19.7

Transfer/Wage Budget: about 20mill.

I only have one striker in Gomez & will rotate with Gomez if I buy him, just unsure as I never had him before

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Buying/Selling: Buying

Player Name: Andrea Bertolacci

Your Team: Southampton

Buyer/Seller: Roma (Bosman)

Player's Value: £1.6 Million

Offer: Free

Transfer/Wage Budget: Wage budget getting very snug.

I have the opportunity to sign Bertolacci on a free at the end of the first season (currently in January window). He is rated 4* CA / 5* PA by my top scout. The main challenge is that I am already knee deep in midfielders and he'd be the 4th expensive salary signed over the summer. He'd most likely fill the role that Cork occupies now, and sometimes play alongside him instead of Jonas Svensson / Wolff Eikram. Vass is more or less a given in most games.

Has anyone had any experience with him in other saves that would warrant replacing any of the aforementioned? Cork seems almost tapped out on potential, but his attributes look better currently. He does tend to annoy me with his endless tap-backs when someone passes to him, instead of looking upfield.

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Bertolacci can turn into a class player, and if you can get him for free I'd say give it a go, you can always sell on in a season or two if things don't work out. What season are you in?

See if you can lower his wages but increasing bonuses or something

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Buying/Selling: Buying

Player Name: Andrea Bertolacci

Your Team: Southampton

Buyer/Seller: Roma (Bosman)

Player's Value: £1.6 Million

Offer: Free

Transfer/Wage Budget: Wage budget getting very snug.

I have the opportunity to sign Bertolacci on a free at the end of the first season (currently in January window). He is rated 4* CA / 5* PA by my top scout. The main challenge is that I am already knee deep in midfielders and he'd be the 4th expensive salary signed over the summer. He'd most likely fill the role that Cork occupies now, and sometimes play alongside him instead of Jonas Svensson / Wolff Eikram. Vass is more or less a given in most games.

Has anyone had any experience with him in other saves that would warrant replacing any of the aforementioned? Cork seems almost tapped out on potential, but his attributes look better currently. He does tend to annoy me with his endless tap-backs when someone passes to him, instead of looking upfield.

I brought him in for Newcastle in second season on my save, unfortunately he found it hard to displace Yohan Cabaye from the Deep Lying Playmaker role so I eventually let him move after 3 seasons.

I think he could be a cracking signing for Southampton though, his attributes did improve quite a bit for me even though he wasn't a 1st team regular so he'll probably look better than Cork if you give him the game time. Was a bit of a goal threat for me as well, scored a few screamers and did a good job in a more advanced role when called on at times. Well worth a punt if you're getting him for free.

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El Ghanassy for 4m euro, or Gio Dos Santos for 6m euro, for my Udinese side?
Udinese even wanted to sign Gio during the summer window, but they failed to reach an agreement (cant really recall if it was with Spurs or the player in question), so id go for Gio
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Buying

Player Name: Thiago Alcantara

Your Team: Chelsea

Selling Club: Barcelona

Player's Value: £5.75million

Offer: £5million - £50k p/w wages agreed

Transfer/Wage Budget: £63.4million/£1.9million (Currently spending just over £1.5million)

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: Halfway through season 4

Currently transfer listed by request at Barcelona due to a lack of first team football, Thiago is available for an excellent price. My issue is that I'm not sure that I need him because in my suad I have a lot of players who can play the AMC role. The three main players are who fill the role are;

Willian

Juan Mata

Neymar

Now none of these payers have nailed down the AMC position. For starters Willian usually plays AMR, and with Neymar and Mata, well it just depends who else is in the starting XI. I also still have a 36 year old Frank Lampard performing at a very high standard, and a 23 year old Gael Kakuta who plays in any of the three attacking midfield positions in my 4-2-3-1 system.

Should I go through with the deal for Thiago?

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Yeah buy him. Thiago can play a little deeper and more centrally than those three in any case. DLP i believe

Now that throws up another problem as for that role [Deep Lying Playmaker] I already have the following;

Josh McEachran

Jack Rodwell

Ross Barkely

If I bring im in he would certainly be playing AMC.

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Now that throws up another problem as for that role [Deep Lying Playmaker] I already have the following;

Josh McEachran

Jack Rodwell

Ross Barkely

If I bring im in he would certainly be playing AMC.

Could you not use Rodwell as a B2B/BWM and Barkley as a B2B/CM (auto) if thats the case?

If you were going to sign Thiago for a more attacking role I would say you will need to offload someone or else it would just be a waste.

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Well I don't use a box-to-box, and for balling winning midfielder I have John Obi Mikel, Ramires, (surprisingly good in that role), and Oriol Romeu. Having said that I will probably cash in on Mikel at the end of the season, and of course Rodwell and Barkley can both d the ball winning role.

Hmmm much to ponder. Cheers for th reply SRL88.

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am I nuts if I end up paying £11,5m, some absurd agent fees and 45k wage for Steven Fletcher.....he was my first target at the start of the window, but they wasnt really budging until Mick went for the Arsenal job and I had already landed my secound chose target (so I already have 4 decent strikers now)

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Player Name: Carlos Tevez

Your Team: Chelsea

Selling Club: Man City

Player's Value: £10million

Offer: £15million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £48million

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: 2 start

or

Player Name: Sergio Aguero

Your Team: Chelsea

Selling Club: Man City

Player's Value: £29million

Offer: £34million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £48million

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: 2 start

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Player Name: David Luiz

Your Team: Chelsea

Buying Club: Barcelona

Player's Value: £14.5million

Offer: £29million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £63.4million/£1.9million (Currently spending just over £1.5million) - My Balance is currently £44million, but I lose around £3-4million a month for most months of the season

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: Halfway through season 4

Currently David Luiz has 18 months remaining on his current contract. He is only on £40k p/w though and to renew he wants to more than duble his wages to £100k p/w. I have alot of other good central defenders in the squad as it is;

John Terry

Gary Cahill

Nathaniel Chalobah

Jeffrey Bruma

Tomas Kalas

David Luiz isn't a first choice at Centre Backm infact no one is really. He plays at Right Back a fair bit, and has even covered at Left Back aswell. Given his rather extravagant wage demands, should I just let him go? I feel I can more than cope with what I have in the squad already without having to bring in a replacement.

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£29m is a very, very good offer so I would be inclined to sell and you can quite easily bring in someone for that sort of money. If you feel you can cope then I would take the money :thup:.

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Player Name: Carlos Tevez

Your Team: Chelsea

Selling Club: Man City

Player's Value: £10million

Offer: £15million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £48million

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: 2 start

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Player Name: Sergio Aguero

Your Team: Chelsea

Selling Club: Man City

Player's Value: £29million

Offer: £34million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £48million

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: 2 start

If you're definitely only going to buy one, and you're at Chelsea for the long haul then Aguero as he has youth on his side.....otherwise be greedy like SRL88 suggests and nab both.

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Player Name: David Luiz

Your Team: Chelsea

Buying Club: Barcelona

Player's Value: £14.5million

Offer: £29million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £63.4million/£1.9million (Currently spending just over £1.5million) - My Balance is currently £44million, but I lose around £3-4million a month for most months of the season

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: Halfway through season 4

Currently David Luiz has 18 months remaining on his current contract. He is only on £40k p/w though and to renew he wants to more than duble his wages to £100k p/w. I have alot of other good central defenders in the squad as it is;

John Terry

Gary Cahill

Nathaniel Chalobah

Jeffrey Bruma

Tomas Kalas

David Luiz isn't a first choice at Centre Backm infact no one is really. He plays at Right Back a fair bit, and has even covered at Left Back aswell. Given his rather extravagant wage demands, should I just let him go? I feel I can more than cope with what I have in the squad already without having to bring in a replacement.

Take the money and run, giggling hysterically, all the way to the bank :p

To be sensible though, I would sell and use the money to buy in a specialist fullback or two if you've been using Luiz to cover there. I certainly wouldn't give him that big a hike in wages. You've got cover at Centre Back and depending on how you spend the fee for Luiz you might well have enough left over to bring in someone like Vertonghen if you decide to.

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Robert the Spud

I would get him for that. At the start of 2015 on my save and he looks great just through AI development.

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Thanks for the advice on David Luiz by the way guys. Like I said, I accepted Barcelona's offer, but he rejected them. (I didn't offer him a deal at the same time hoping he would sign with me and not them, he just turned them down on his own accord).

Fair enough I say, just now got to negotiate a contract with him that means I'm not more than doubling his wages.

As for the Thiago thing, despite him agreeing the deal with me, news came up saying he had rejected the contract. Odd.

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Robert the Spud

I would get him for that. At the start of 2015 on my save and he looks great just through AI development.

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Thanks for the advice on David Luiz by the way guys. Like I said, I accepted Barcelona's offer, but he rejected them. (I didn't offer him a deal at the same time hoping he would sign with me and not them, he just turned them down on his own accord).

Fair enough I say, just now got to negotiate a contract with him that means I'm not more than doubling his wages.

As for the Thiago thing, despite him agreeing the deal with me, news came up saying he had rejected the contract. Odd.

The Thiago thing happens but not very often, I find it annoying I would rather they just rejected me straight away.

I am guessing you already locked his wages at what you think is an acceptable amount? Or did this make him demand too much in bonuses?

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AcidBurn

Nope. I offered him rotation and £50k p/w with decent bonuses, all of which he agreed to. He then went away to "think about it", and the news item came up saying he'd rejected the offer.

Nevermind.

Sorry I meant locking the wages of David Luiz, I really thought I had wrote that lol.

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When i saw Luiz' initial demands I didn't even bother offering him a deal - I was happy to let him go to Barcelona. Of course now I'll have a look at what can be done about it.

Sometimes locking it can work. I signed Benzema for Sunderland in the 5th season his demands at first were quite high he wanted 135k a week in the end I got him to agree on 80k, also his match and goal bonus went from 23k to around 11k. Got Tevez from 220k a week to 125k. It is a bit hit and miss at times, let us know how you get on been thinking of having a Chelsea save at some point and would want to get the wages down and keep most players on under 80k once the big earners had been sold.

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Buying

Player Name: Willian

Your Team: Man Utd

Selling Club: Shakhtar

Player's Value: £3.4million

Offer: £8million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £16million

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: Beginning of Season 1

or

Player Name: Christian Eriksen

Your Team: Man Utd

Selling Club: Ajax

Player's Value: £3.4million

Offer: £10million

Transfer/Wage Budget: £16million

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: Beginning of Season 1

To be used as an AMC :)

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Player Name: Nicolas Otamendi

Your Team: Arsenal

Selling Club: Porto

Players Value: £5.25m

Offer: £13m

Transfer/Wage Budget: £23m/£72k remaining

Patch: Latest

Season: First

Just started a save as Arsenal and I always play with a covering and stopper CB pair. I'm happy with Koscielny and Mertesacker as my covering defenders but I don't have any real confidence in either their or Djourou's ability to play as a stopper should Vermaelen get a serious injury. Would look to move Djourou on if I sign him.

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Buying/Selling: Selling

Player Name: Marcelo

Your Team: Real Madrid

Buyer/Seller: Chelsea

Player's Value: £18m

Offer: £4.5m, £30m over 30 months

Transfer/Wage Budget: £110m/£2.2m

Patch: 12.1.1

Season: Start of 3rd

My only other left back is Coentrao.

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