poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Anyone else seen this? At the end of the first season Chelsea released Ballack and Deco and at the end of the second season they released Anelka, Kalou and Carvalho. At the end of the second season Liverpool released Riera, Reina and Kuyt and Everton released Saha. Seems a bit odd... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton Ninjas Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Carlos Vela went to Shaktar for free on mine at the end of the second season. Only realised he was available once the deal was done. Gutted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek_Hamsik Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Realistic. All those players are on huge contracts and nearly all of them are on the decline, especially with age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmfarey Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Reina......don't think thats realistic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonz Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 It's not that realistic. I mean Liverpool wouldn't release Reina at the moment but I can see them getting rid of Riera and Kuyt. Same with Chelsea and Anelka he's in like the best form in his entire career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faroe Islands Coach Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 have to defo agree with rmfarey far to many good playerd being freed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 not realistic in my opinion. even though they are getting on a bit they wouldn't be released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman375 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Carlos Vela on the decline? LOL. I am playing in the Dutch Eredivisie and Arsenal released Carlos Vela on a free. Ajax snatched him up and are now tearing up the league. Really annoying and unrealistic imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 How on earth can it ever be realistic? Man Utd didn't release Neville/Scholes just because they turned 32 or 33. Marek, if Chelsea release any of those players on a free in the next 2 years, well done for predicting it, but i highly doubt it! What's worse is that if you get promoted from the Championship, you can sign half a team of very good Prem players like Anelka, Saha, Vela, Ballack and easily stay up. Challenge gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryansilkmen Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 ive just started my third season with man utd and got drogba for £15 million and scott sinclair for £7.75 million as man utd are one of sinclair's fav clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 yep franck ribery got released on mine at end of second season from bayern, as did klose, van bommel and someone else i don't quite remember although it's only ribery's release which is particularly peculiar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 the thing is, they're all peculiar as even players like klose, van bommel, carvalho who are getting on a bit, won't be without a club at the end of a season. they might get transferred, but there's no way these clubs would release these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatravartids Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yep. Carlton Cole was released at the end of the first season and my League 1 team picked him up. *grin* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Ive seen Eduardo be released from Arsenal too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton Ninjas Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yep. Carlton Cole was released at the end of the first season and my League 1 team picked him up. *grin* Signed for free, played as back up for 2 seasons on 8k pw, sold for 6.5m in the summer. *lights cigar* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Payaso Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Realistic.All those players are on huge contracts and nearly all of them are on the decline, especially with age. And Maldini didn't play in Milan at the age of 40, huh? This is one thing that is wrong in FM. I think that if player still has motivation and desire to play football, he can still be in good shape when he's 35 years old. Seen many of them but in FM it's just not gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antg1985 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Have they been released or did they not want to be at the clubs anymore and refused to sign a new contract? therefore its not the clubs its the players? Can you see Ribery not signing a new contract with R Madrid Sniffing around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smythe Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 And Maldini didn't play in Milan at the age of 40, huh? This is one thing that is wrong in FM. I think that if player still has motivation and desire to play football, he can still be in good shape when he's 35 years old. Seen many of them but in FM it's just not gonna happen. Beckham is my Captain at Sunderland and is 35 years old. I also have Van nistolroy up front, scored 27 goals at 33 last year, still a big part of plans for this season. Have also brought Owen in to partner him, and he is no youngster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 They were released. I don't know about the Liverpool players but i kept tabs on Anelka and he went from being a regular to being released on a free in a matter of months. Also, if Ribery didn't sign a new contract, surely Real would have snapped him up before he actually got released. If the Ribery situation was the same as in my game, the players were without a club for a few weeks without anybody showing interest... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Beckham is my Captain at Sunderland and is 35 years old.I also have Van nistolroy up front, scored 27 goals at 33 last year, still a big part of plans for this season. Have also brought Owen in to partner him, and he is no youngster. That's another two i've seen happening - Van Nistelrooy and Owen released. I know they're getting on, but they just wouldn't be released on free transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Addick Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Released is the wrong word. IRL, clubs cannot hold a gun to the players head and make them sign a deal. Maybe in game, not enough money was offered? Happens IRL for a whole host of reasons all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Released is the wrong word. IRL, clubs cannot hold a gun to the players head and make them sign a deal. Maybe in game, not enough money was offered? Happens IRL for a whole host of reasons all the time. Not trying to sound arsy, but when? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killface Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 That's another two i've seen happening - Van Nistelrooy and Owen released. I know they're getting on, but they just wouldn't be released on free transfers. Pretty sure Owen was just released IRL I know it was under different circumstances, but it wasn't like there was a race to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 When you’re playing as a smaller club, e.g. Aberdeen like me, it makes it pointless to sign players on pre-contracts in Jan. You know you can just hold off until 1st/2nd July and pick up these released players, none of whom would’ve been remotely interested in joining me in January. If you time it right, you can even be the only interested club when they’ve been released. Surely, if these top players were being released, they’d have another deal lined up with a bigger club. Needs adjusted I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayernMB Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 yep franck ribery got released on mine at end of second season from bayern, as did klose, van bommel and someone else i don't quite remember although it's only ribery's release which is particularly peculiar. Well perhaps Ribery refused to sign a new deal even if Bayern wanted to keep him and he hasn't found a new club yet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Payaso Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Beckham is my Captain at Sunderland and is 35 years old.I also have Van nistolroy up front, scored 27 goals at 33 last year, still a big part of plans for this season. Have also brought Owen in to partner him, and he is no youngster. Yeah it's possible in team you are managing but AI seems to threat their older players like rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Hmm, in my game Vela went to Bayern Munich for £8 million. I do agree that there might a higher than normal chance of players who are old but good being released. No chance of Liverpool ever releasing Kuyt this season, let alone Reina. Even Riera would be unlikely. Hmm, Liverpool released Aquilani and Carragher in 2014, couldn't imagine Aquilani just being released on a free. They also released Sergey Semak two years after spending £5 million on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry-Atric Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 How on earth can it ever be realistic?Man Utd didn't release Neville/Scholes just because they turned 32 or 33. Marek, if Chelsea release any of those players on a free in the next 2 years, well done for predicting it, but i highly doubt it! What's worse is that if you get promoted from the Championship, you can sign half a team of very good Prem players like Anelka, Saha, Vela, Ballack and easily stay up. Challenge gone. I got promoted with Sheff Wed and i couldnt get any players to join deco was realased and went to Inter milan. i suppose it would be un realistic if they had a couple of years left on there contract but to be honest if there contract was up would you keep a 30+ year old on upto 100 grand a week? i know in years gone by clubs maybe would have but i do think things have changed and nowa days they wouldnt be offer such abig contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiston Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 I don't understand how anyone can suggest this is realistic... Can anyone actually see Chelsea releasing Anelka at the end of next season? And Liverpool releasing Reina and Kuyt. Especially as the 3 were regulars during the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outtasync Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Some players I've seen on the transfer list due to being "too old": Ibrahimovic, Xavi, Adebayor, Buffon, Ribery (there were others who slipped my mind). Something else which caught my eye was Bayern transfer listing both Klose and Toni at the end of the first season oO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
de_baser Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 There's another interesting class of players in this fray, namely the "old, proven legends" which still get a lot of play and appear to be "proven class" even though they're bordering on 40. Lots of examples of this in AC Milan and Roma - and these guys, like Pirlo, Del Piero (scores like 25-30 goals when he's 37!!!) and Inzaghi, stay till they die. Subsequently, this actually makes the team underperform in later seasons as you catch up with quality youngsters. Regarding releases, i guess that's the FM reality. I've had players decide they want a new challenge with 3 years left, and refusing outright to sign a new contract - while remaining a huge part of my squad, eventually just playing their hart out till the contract is done and then ****ing off. NEVER budging in opinion once their mind is made up, three years prior. I've lost giant transfer sums like this, but i guess it is viable to a certain extent. What i'd like to see is regens aquiring "old faithful" qualities - they always stagnate by the FM rulebook the day they turn 30, and are basically worthless 18 months later. The pre-made old faithfuls become an own class of player - they got a PH.D. in passing, set pieces and influence, but would lose a 100m dash against my grandma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outtasync Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'd like to see players retiring at a reasonably good playing level like how Zidane did, winning the golden ball despite his impending retirement. The legends in the game always end up rotting in the reserves, lingering on the transfer list or playing for some ***** team, rather than retiring gloriously like they deserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryansilkmen Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 where can i find the editor for fm 2010 want to create a database Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinostar77 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'd like to see players retiring at a reasonably good playing level like how Zidane did, winning the golden ball despite his impending retirement. The legends in the game always end up rotting in the reserves, lingering on the transfer list or playing for some ***** team, rather than retiring gloriously like they deserve. Totally agree with you. Nothing worst than seeing a former legend player lingering in the reserves until his contract expires and they get released on a free. They should go out at the top ala Maldini, Zidane, Figo etc. As for players being released, SI have improved squad balance alot in the past few versions ( I remember 2 or 3 years ago, a team like chelsea would sell all their goalies and have a greyed out player in goal), but its still not as good as it should be. In my current game, man utd haven't signed a player for 3 years and sold evra, fabio, rafael and o'shea (they have no one who can play LB wtf?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The unreallistic thing about it is they're 1) not trying to sell and make as much money as possible out of them before contracts expire 2) they actually release them(thr player dosen't sign a new deal in some cases) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckz Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Realistic.All those players are on huge contracts and nearly all of them are on the decline, especially with age. Released is the wrong word. IRL, clubs cannot hold a gun to the players head and make them sign a deal. Maybe in game, not enough money was offered? Happens IRL for a whole host of reasons all the time. I love how threads here turn into attempts to justify bugs/flaws as "this happens all the time!" or "this makes sense!" when clearly neither is the case. I got promoted with Sheff Wed and i couldnt get any players to join deco was realased and went to Inter milan.i suppose it would be un realistic if they had a couple of years left on there contract but to be honest if there contract was up would you keep a 30+ year old on upto 100 grand a week? i know in years gone by clubs maybe would have but i do think things have changed and nowa days they wouldnt be offer such abig contract. Well, typically in FM you can eventually talk players into lesser wages and short contracts. I guess to evaluate this we'd need to know the pay disparity before and after. So, those of you who saw Deco leave for free, how much did Inter or whoever pay him? Did he previously reject similar offers from Chelsea? Some players I've seen on the transfer list due to being "too old": Ibrahimovic, Xavi, Adebayor, Buffon, Ribery (there were others who slipped my mind). Something else which caught my eye was Bayern transfer listing both Klose and Toni at the end of the first season oO Well, they *do* have too many strikers. That bit is rather obvious. And I guess Olic and Gomez are a whole bit younger. But... of course only one of the four would leave, namely Olic or Toni. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Sounds like a bug to me. At least I'll wait with my career game until SI has "looked into it" for the next patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Anyone else seen this?At the end of the first season Chelsea released Ballack and Deco and at the end of the second season they released Anelka, Kalou and Carvalho. At the end of the second season Liverpool released Riera, Reina and Kuyt and Everton released Saha. Seems a bit odd... Ballack ,carvalho and deco are both old and highly over paid ,anelka and saha are old ,so it's fully understandable why they have been released. Riera ,reina and kuyt being released is ,for want of a better phrase ,silly bollock's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruyff14 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Is there anything on this game that actually works properly this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriffpatgarrett Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Sounds like a bug to me. At least I'll wait with my career game until SI has "looked into it" for the next patch. Yep, no career games for me either until next patch! This ´problem´ sounds really strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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