Jibsa Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 I havnt and plenty others if the bugs forum is anything to go by. I havnt conceded any either. Really annoying and ruining the game for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibsa Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I havnt and plenty others if the bugs forum is anything to go by. I havnt conceded any either. Really annoying and ruining the game for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I'm sure everyone will say YES. Scored plenty. Conceded plenty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautilus Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 If you have a good freekick taker, you will score! My teams did it quite often! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonfun1980 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yes, one of them was the best goal I have ever seen on FM since the 2d pitch was brought in. Rocky Lekaj on loan at Cheltenham, from around 35 yards hit both posts and went in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Tons, yes. Van der vaart, Ashley Young, Stancu, Torje, all decent kick takers. Not sure about lower down the divisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibsa Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 My free kick takers scores 19 for FK with 14 long shots. Just keeps hitting the wall and deflected...every time every time. I'm in 2011 and Ive scored three times after a freekick award but all have taken a deflection. I outplayed Leeds last night and got beat 1.0 with my late freekick hitting the wall (again) in the 88th minute. SI please fix for the sake of my wardrobe door! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Man Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ive seen them go in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neyles Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 You do see DFK goals although, perhaps, not as frequently as in FM07 - particularly when playing in the lower leagues. I have gone through 8 seasons (mostly lower league) on FM08 and scored about half a dozen while conceding twice that number. It is my perception that the wall deflects a lot and rarely to the benefit of the attacking team. The ball has a tendency to head for the top corner but deflect straight into the hands of the keeper. I guess it's pretty easy to check. When the season's over, do a sum of the DFKs in team stats and compare with real-life results. Would be an interesting exercise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdez24 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Everything went in on the first beta patch from FKs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdewey Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 My goalkeeper scored from a goal kick a few days ago for my Newcastle team - I've never seen this in playing FM in over 14 years lol! Anyone else had this happen to them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Rock Stars Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 i've scored quite a few, but most were due to deflections, which i think needs to be toned down a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerfan Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Currently in BSP, I've scored up, allowed more. Crap players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerfan Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 That should be "scored some". Sometimes, the fingers seem to have a mind of their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAStewart Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Never scored them, have conceded them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yea, scored and conceded a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty566 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 yes but having silva robin van persie and matias fernandez helps funny enough i cant remember letting one in --touch wood(touches head with a puzzling look) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornelius11 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 yup, scored some. concede nearly all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawd Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 On 8.0.1 I haven't scored any yet. But heres hoping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnreas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Conceded a lot, scored even more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbond332 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I haven't scored too many....and it does seem that when my player scores, its generally because it deflects off another player. Granted, I don't have a world class FK taker (Leeds United, 2 seasons in lol), but still seems somewhat odd. It's about the same for the opposition, I conceed more (they are better FK takers). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norville Rodgers Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 In keeping with the popular opinion, scored and conceded a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljdzsgffk Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Its impossible to score from a free kick without a deflection. For that matter, most goals are deflected or come from rebounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C(r)ouch Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kill Rock Stars: i've scored quite a few, but most were due to deflections, which i think needs to be toned down a bit </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I second that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Leeds Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Juan Roman Riquelme has scored a number of Free Kicks for me this season on my Arsenal game and cost a bargain £1.8m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pernambucano of footba Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 end of season, my man city side had scored 14. i had petrov,elano and matias fernandez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbokav1971 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 My GK has now scored about 60 goals. I would guess that roughly 40 of them have been from direct free-kicks. He scored a hat-trick of free-kicks in one game alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 6 Games into my new season, and 4 goals have come from FK's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joor Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jimbokav1971: My GK has now scored about 60 goals. I would guess that roughly 40 of them have been from direct free-kicks. He scored a hat-trick of free-kicks in one game alone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Does he have 20 in freekick ? Can I see a screenshot ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbokav1971 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 No. It's only either 5 or 6 for penalties and 7(ish) for free-kicks. Have a look in the records threads for a pic of the free-kicks, (most free-kicks scored in a match), and in the challenge forum there is a thread called the Fat GK challenge. The most recent screenshot showing goals scored is in there. There is probably a profile pic there too somewhere if that's what you meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saware Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ive not scored a great deal, and to be honest I dont let too many in but they do happen every so often. While I know we should recommend players in a different forum Id just like to say that if anyone is looking for a decent free-kick taker then you could do worse than David Jones of Derby... a snap for me & Newcastle at just shy of £3m, & now an established England international! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 My Eastbourne Boro "Captain Marvel" Paul Armstrong scores nearly every freekick he takes. That's with Beta Patch 1 and, later on, 8.0.1 on top of that. My Assman says I should "offload him in the near future". Fool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jibsa: My free kick takers scores 19 for FK with 14 long shots. Just keeps hitting the wall and deflected...every time every time. I'm in 2011 and Ive scored three times after a freekick award but all have taken a deflection. I outplayed Leeds last night and got beat 1.0 with my late freekick hitting the wall (again) in the 88th minute. SI please fix for the sake of my wardrobe door! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Check some of his other attributes: Technique Decisions Composure Anticipation It could also be related to his Morale, or to hidden attributes about his ability to handle pressure, big matches, consistency, etc. You might also make sure you have a right-footed Free Kick taker taking from the left side .. and a left-footer taking from the right side. ... heck, if he's never scored for you, I'd just change free kick takers full stop - the reason hardly matters, as the next-best-option can't possibly do worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeves Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 as i understand it the free kick attribute doesnt influence direct free kick success rate at all. the long shot attribute is far more important, someone may need to test this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibsa Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Hi the thread starter here, I scored one last night he hit it well and looked to be direct and over the wall but on the replay its still takin a deflection from last man in wall. Wonder if I can get Ronaldhino or even Roberto Carlos on a free into the League One!! Tone down the wall fellas please most DFK even LL go around or over the wall and are not blocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_33 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 ALL the free kicks I've scored or had scored against me have taken a deflection. Never had one go straight in. Have van der Vaart (sp) as my free kick taker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_33 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jimbokav1971: My GK has now scored about 60 goals. I would guess that roughly 40 of them have been from direct free-kicks. He scored a hat-trick of free-kicks in one game alone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Does he ever get caught out of goal if he misses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbokav1971 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I've thought long and hard about what makes by GK a decent free-kick taker. Free-kicks 7. Penalties 4. So nothing too impressive there . Remember that this GK has now scored 60 goals in just over 7 seasons. Looking at the stats that Amaroq listed.... Technique (hidden stat for a GK but viewable via training attribute history) 6. Decisions 12. Composure 4. Anticipation 6. So to be honest, I would suggest that there is something other that the attrivutes listed above which is having a big impact on free-kicks. 7, 4, 6, 12, 4, 6. They are my GK attributes for the relevant areas abd they are not exactly impressive. What I will do now is just list some random good attributes that my GK has in the hope that it may shed some light on the matter. Bravery 19. No. Decisions 12. Possibly. Handling 15. No. Influence 12. No. Kicking 12. Possibly. Natural Fitness 16. No. One On Ones 14. No. Positioning 12. No. Strength 12. No. Now that is every attribute that he currently has above 11. Decisions and kicking should make a bit of a difference but shouldn't be huge. If it makes any difference, his personality is classed as "fairly loyal" so that doesn't shed much light on the matter. To be honest I am at a bit of a loss to explein why this player can produce these results . The one thing I have noticed which might be linked to this in a way is that while he is a decent(ish) penalty taker, he is shocking when it comes to taking penalties in shootouts. This might be linked to his poor composure rating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbokav1971 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by james_33: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jimbokav1971: My GK has now scored about 60 goals. I would guess that roughly 40 of them have been from direct free-kicks. He scored a hat-trick of free-kicks in one game alone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Does he ever get caught out of goal if he misses? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> We didn't concede a goal for about the first 4(ish) seasons, but then went and conceded 2 in 3 games or somthing, and I suppose we have conceded about 4 or 5 goals now in just over 7 years as a result of him being outfield. There have been many more opportunities for us to concede, but luckily the player in posession does not usually have the required quality to punish us when we lose posession and my GK is stranded. When I tried the same thing managing in Peru, (in the Jan challenge), I was immediately punished and we conceded 3 times I think as the calibre of player we were up against was that much better and they had the ability to hit the target from 60 yards out. I think it's a good thing that this prt of the match engine seems to be pretty accurate and the chances of you conceded vary hugely depending on the quality of the opposition . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibsa Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Interesting about his stats and ability regardless of hitting good FK. My goal was scored not by my chosen free kick taker but a striker who took over when standing over the ball. His stats for technique free kicks long shots are all very low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibsa Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 8.02 seems to have fixed it. Now I brick it when AI lining up free kicks (conceded 1 over the wall) and have scored two DFK from my 20 free kick taker, one in the final minute of a game. Defintley was a bug which is happily now fixed. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half-time Orange Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Little point in me adding "Yes", but I'll doo it anyway. In 8.0.1 and 8.0.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 gerrards scored a few directly from free kicks for me with the latest patch. dont see any problems at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainu Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I've never seen any Direct Free Kick clear the wall in my Man United game started on 8.01 and updated to 8.02. Not a single one. I've got Ronaldo and Gareth Bale, you'd expect at least 1 in a 100 to clear the wall, but no luck. I've never seen the opposition do it either, doesn't matter if it's Ronaldinho or Juninho. So the whole free kick stuff has been eliminated from my game. I can't score them, but I can't concede them either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddiopimpio Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Plenty. Technique< longshot and freekick stats over 16 in top divisions i find. Decisions plays a factor too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc747 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I scored 16 in one season in the BSS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeturner Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 David Jones! Scored 24 goals one season, 13 free kicks in the prem!!! sold him to united for 25 mil next season ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 My left back, before leaving scored 25 goals from FK's in a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I have scored only one that hasn't been deflected, a lovely kick from 40 yards out by matias fernandez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawd Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 No I haven't scored any yet, I've conceded a couple though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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