A NON-Commercial Real Time Editor

Has anyone found the time to please many players yet of FM with a proper non-commercial real time editor?

Please note... this post isnt about commercial editors, or so called donatable editors! Just those made by fans of this game that enjoy making something usefull for so many other people.

Please keep the thread on topic.

Discussion of paid products should appear on their own forums.

I'm curious too, but I have to admit that my fun in the game has increased now that I don't have access to any (real time) editor.

Anyone know how i can learn to make a real time editor? I want to produce a free real time editor. I had a very basic grasp of VB several years ago

I had a very basic grasp of VB several years ago

I must have been asleep at the time!

VB

^^

lulz

I must have been asleep at the time!

VB

you were drunk as i recall

I cant imagine its very easy otherwise more would have done it, might be best to give the guy who developes FMRTE an email and see what info he is willing to share with you.

I cant imagine its very easy otherwise more would have done it, might be best to give the guy who developes FMRTE an email and see what info he is willing to share with you.

Haha, yeah. "Hey mate, can you tell me how you developed FMRTE so I can make my own RTE for FM and release it for free, thus taking away your custom. Cheers pal"

BBR, just sending Apple an e-mail.

Is there any chance that maybe SI themselves will develop an editor with the same functionality for future versions? There's obviously a huge demand for this kind of thing and it would also have the advantage of being compatible with new patches without delays.

Haha, yeah. "Hey mate, can you tell me how you developed FMRTE so I can make my own RTE for FM and release it for free, thus taking away your custom. Cheers pal"

BBR, just sending Apple an e-mail.

He is actually quite forward with how FMRTE works, its worth a shot none the less.

Is there any chance that maybe SI themselves will develop an editor with the same functionality for future versions? There's obviously a huge demand for this kind of thing and it would also have the advantage of being compatible with new patches without delays.

A real time editor is a very dangerous thing, you can ruin your save using FMRTE to the point that is cannot be recovered quite easily, i dont think SI will ever release one.

Since I have never, ever, gone more than 10-12 years in any save; rather than trying to do any real time edit I would prefer to just start again.

He is actually quite forward with how FMRTE works, its worth a shot none the less.

A real time editor is a very dangerous thing, you can ruin your save using FMRTE to the point that is cannot be recovered quite easily, i dont think SI will ever release one.

It's only really a dangerous thing because it's someone else improvising and manipulating information stored in memory when in reality they dont *really* know for sure what they're doing. If SI developed their own, it'd no doubt be safer because they'd have more experience and understanding of how the game works and is coded. That said, I wouldnt ever expect an RTE as sophistocated and deep as FMRTE, purely because of the whole "risk" element, the more you allow a player to edit, the more chance they can do something dangerous, if it's simple then there's no real risk.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that, now SI are taking steps to stop FMRTE from working, there will be a pleasant surprise with FM13 and an official in-game editor will be provided.

It's only really a dangerous thing because it's someone else improvising and manipulating information stored in memory when in reality they dont *really* know for sure what they're doing. If SI developed their own, it'd no doubt be safer because they'd have more experience and understanding of how the game works and is coded. That said, I wouldnt ever expect an RTE as sophistocated and deep as FMRTE, purely because of the whole "risk" element, the more you allow a player to edit, the more chance they can do something dangerous, if it's simple then there's no real risk.

I ment purely from a stance of, too many people would ruin their games changing too many things or making mistakes, SI would spend a hell of a lot of time fixing games people had broken using the official RTE, thats why i dont think they will ever bother.

Haha, yeah. "Hey mate, can you tell me how you developed FMRTE so I can make my own RTE for FM and release it for free, thus taking away your custom. Cheers pal"

BBR, just sending Apple an e-mail.

It's more that he spent thousands of hours working on this over the past years and would rather get some financial compensation for all the work. I donated for FMRTE multiple times (also long before it became "payware"), as I'm extremely grateful for the work of its author.

There's no evil force out there to stop you from investing a similar amount of free time, unless SI add extra protection against editing.

Btw, this topic would fit far better in the editing subforum.

Its possible that now we would have leaderboards in fm 2013, SI would add protection from cheating (they can use VAC) and sell their own editor as dlc (that would disable leaderboards)

Steam leaderboards are terrible and don't have the least bit of effective cheat protection.

Steam leaderboards are terrible and don't have the least bit of effective cheat protection.

Exactly, so why put them in the game if they are not going to implement cheat protection?

Steam leaderboards are terrible and don't have the least bit of effective cheat protection.

How do you know there isn't a system that SI have created. I doubt the kind of people who play FM are going to care about the leaderboards enough too cheat anyway

i hope SI do bring out an in-game editor,the basic things in F---E are ok even the most inexpereinced should'nt go wrong,so some sort of basic one would be ok i think,less hassle than the pre-game editor lol

PS,wots the Steam Leaderboard?

i hope SI do bring out an in-game editor,the basic things in F---E are ok even the most inexpereinced should'nt go wrong,so some sort of basic one would be ok i think,less hassle than the pre-game editor lol

PS,wots the Steam Leaderboard?

Kind of a Global Hall of Fame.

Kind of a Global Hall of Fame.

:)If you play the game in online mode?,,if so no thanks!

Exactly, so why put them in the game if they are not going to implement cheat protection?

The leaderboard system as supplied by Steam can be manipulated very easily. I don't mean manipulating it inside the game, but outside the game. Cheat protection inside the game would not affect it.

:)If you play the game in online mode?,,if so no thanks!

The proposal here is that the regular single player game would put statistics of your performance online so that you could compare yourself with others on a global hall of fame, for example you might have paid the 500th highest price ever paid for a player (to the AI), scored the 9938th most goals ever scored in the EPL, etc.

Nothing to do with playing multiplayer games.

The leaderboard system as supplied by Steam can be manipulated very easily. I don't mean manipulating it inside the game, but outside the game. Cheat protection inside the game would not affect it.

There is a server side system on steam nowadays I believe, that cannot be manipulated if you are not running the game.

I've always wanted a "Fantasy League" sorta gizmo.

Where in-game players assists, clean sheets, bonuses for good performances etc. were totaled and you'd get a leaderboard of the best performing players in the league, just like you get in Fantasy Premier League.

I'd much prefer a tool like this over a real time editor. Something that just data mines the games info for the passes, assists, goals, tackles per game, man of the match and totals them Fantasy Football style.

I used to do it manually every quarter with the players but it was very time consuming.

If SI are going down the path of payable addons, might as well add a rte for a charge! Squeeze the cow!!!

The addons are payable, but they get activated within your game over time anyway. Pay or don't pay. It's your choice.