Why is FM09 so easy?

I swear I haven't cheated in any way. I can upload my save game if need be. I've created a good tactic with Rangers, here is how it went.

Season 1: Won SPL and got to UEFA Cup Semi.

Season 2: Won domestic Treble and Champions League.

Season 3: As above but also won World Club Cup and Euro Super Cup (6 Trophies).

Season 4: As above but lost in Champions League Semi and Scottish Cup final. Unbeaten in SPL in nearly 150 games!

Left Gers and took over Motherwell:

Season 5: 3rd in SPL and got to UEFA Cup Semi.

Season 6: Unbeaten in SPL and into Champions League knockout phase. Its February.

This is so unrealistic and easy its becoming very boring. Is this the same for others?

http://files.filefront.com/tylerbodetac/;13360837;/fileinfo.html

Play with a bad team ??

Some teams will be easy some wont.

Try Hamilton and see if you can do that again, would be more impressive.

TYLER BODE whats your tactic including individual player instructions ???

TYLER BODE whats your tactic including individual player instructions ???

his tactic won't have the same effect on your team though unless your have the same players. Or you could modify it to be to your squads strengths.

yeah just fancied knowing

He has bought athletes rather than football players.

Quite simple really!

Try FML, you'll get found out big time there

Try managing a less talented Scottish team, or try managing a team like Luton - who are in big trouble.

Rangers are hardly a big team so he has done well there

Good effort but if you could do the same with a division 3 team(in Scotland if u wish) over 10 seasons or somthing would be really impressive

You're playing Rangers.... of course its easy lol.

Try what everyone else has said and get a low division team and take them to the same success as you have had with Rangers. I've been trying with Rushden, seem to be locked in the Championship now!

this is hardly true

Rangers are hardly a big team so he has done well there

Are you having a laugh? Rangers or Celtic would naturally be better by far than 90% of their opposition during any season so 2nd place SPL & last 16 ECL would be the expected minimum (Scottish teams only lose IRL in the group stage if they **** things up).

The OP may as well have said "I'm managing Man City, why is there so much money to spend - it's totally unrealistic" !

The only observation I would make is that if you manage the right team in the right way the game is relatively "easy" (expectations can be achieved) but if you pick the wrong team or manage them in the wrong way the game can be very difficult.

You have missed the fact that currently I'm winning the SPL, unbeaten all season and finished an easy 2nd in CL group stage, with Motherwell.

Eh, he's done well with a decent team - by which I mean he's exceeded what would normally be expected of them. Rangers should always do well domestically but the only time they've ever won any European competition was in 1972 so he's definitely done well there.

To be honest, Tyler, if you want more of a challenge then pick a small team with a small stadium and precarious finances. Yes it's an achievement to win the Euro cups with Rangers but given the players, fan base and resources they have at their disposal in this game, it's far from a miracle. If you can take a bottom of the league team to Premiership level and European glory in half a dozen seasons without cheating or using any scout programmes, then you can say the game's too easy. And if you can do that and still think it's easy, set yourself challenges. Like taking over Chelsea or Arsenal and leading them to glory in your first couple of seasons without fielding any foreign nationals. Or updating Weymouth to reflect real life events and try to lead them to safety.

he has a point, motherwell arent the best team in the world unless you happen to be a motherwell fan

Mayby you should post your tactics? or explain how you came about creating them. Might help those who say the game is to hard

FM9 is so easy, are you kidding

Eh, he's done well with a decent team - by which I mean he's exceeded what would normally be expected of them. Rangers should always do well domestically but the only time they've ever won any European competition was in 1972 so he's definitely done well there.

To be honest, Tyler, if you want more of a challenge then pick a small team with a small stadium and precarious finances. Yes it's an achievement to win the Euro cups with Rangers but given the players, fan base and resources they have at their disposal in this game, it's far from a miracle. If you can take a bottom of the league team to Premiership level and European glory in half a dozen seasons without cheating or using any scout programmes, then you can say the game's too easy. And if you can do that and still think it's easy, set yourself challenges. Like taking over Chelsea or Arsenal and leading them to glory in your first couple of seasons without fielding any foreign nationals. Or updating Weymouth to reflect real life events and try to lead them to safety.

Good points there. I'll try going a much lower team.

Well done for Rangers you have done really well congrats

but as sandy tait says doing it with a lower club would be much more great as well to know this is the team that youv'e sculpted out of nothing

try Norwich!!!!!!!

he has a point, motherwell arent the best team in the world unless you happen to be a motherwell fan

Mayby you should post your tactics? or explain how you came about creating them. Might help those who say the game is to hard

Firstly I was frustrated at the low ratings of MC's and ST's, so I tried different things to see what worked best to improve them. I found that basically having no forward runs allows players to make more room for themselves to receive the ball without running into the opposition. I'm using a defensive strategy I've used since FM06, which has always worked well, losing an average of 1 goal in 3 games.

I'll upload my tactic soon with a small guide.

k would be good to see what other mangers are using in scotland.

Seems no one has noticed your success with motherwell then

If FM09 is easy, then so is my wife.

If FM09 is easy, then so is my wife.

He he. Maybe I've just struck gold with the tactics.

I think more to the point FM is more realistic, for example on previous years it didn't take me long to turn Norwich into world beaters, now with all the will in the world we are more like heading for division 3 irl as opposed to challenging Man Utds crown, and in FM 09 like no other version I struggled like hell with Norwich.

I then started a game with Zenit, and like Irl, I won a majority of the games I played.

The very bad AI makes it too easy. Even with a bad team you can win easily because as your team improves the AI managers all make their clubs worse, and it just gets easier and easier the longer you play. Eventually even the worst FM manager wouldn't find much of a challenge when all his rivals are teams full of 40+ managed by 90 years olds.

The very bad AI makes it too easy. Even with a bad team you can win easily because as your team improves the AI managers all make their clubs worse, and it just gets easier and easier the longer you play. Eventually even the worst FM manager wouldn't find much of a challenge when all his rivals are teams full of 40+ managed by 90 years olds.

I agree with this statement, FM is quite difficult (unless your'e managing a top team) for the first few seasons. However, due to the AI not investing in young talent and making ludicrous signings based too much on player reputation the competition ends up being non existent.

if u play with rangers want do u want?... relegate to scottish second division and knock out from the first round of cup.. crazy

i u want to suffer try khimki in russia or dender in belgium or any un famous club that hasn't a good bank balance as rangers and a good players as rangers

Why boast about it?

Why boast about it?

Why not?

101010

Why boast about it?

He wasn't actually boasting, in the truest sense of the word. He was saying that he feels the game may be too easy.

I feel the same, I dont get why everyone says its hard? TBH its the easiest of any incarnation of FM in my opinion, i hope the patch makes the game better

You're playing Rangers.... of course its easy lol.

Try what everyone else has said and get a low division team and take them to the same success as you have had with Rangers. I've been trying with Rushden, seem to be locked in the Championship now!

OMG as am i, stuck in the Championship with Bournemouth

16th first year

15th second

14th third

i am currently 13th

such realism lol

Anyone who thinks it's easy, I'd love to play them in a network game so they can get found out

OMG as am i, stuck in the Championship with Bournemouth

16th first year

15th second

14th third

i am currently 13th

such realism lol

just think, another 13 seasons and you will be up a division

just think, another 13 seasons and you will be up a division

well, 11 really

You're playing Rangers.... of course its easy lol.

Try what everyone else has said and get a low division team and take them to the same success as you have had with Rangers. I've been trying with Rushden, seem to be locked in the Championship now!

just think, another 13 seasons and you will be up a division

I know, well technically, i only need 7 to chance the play offs or 12 to get promoted by runners up i think, but yer, i still love this game and i am in my 8th season with youth players original in the game starting to peak it is becoming saddening seeing legends retire and newgens taking over the world..

I know, well technically, i only need 7 to chance the play offs or 12 to get promoted by runners up i think, but yer, i still love this game and i am in my 8th season with youth players original in the game starting to peak it is becoming saddening seeing legends retire and newgens taking over the world..

This is the main reason I struggle to play really long-term games

Congrats.

When I begin my first career in FM2009 (after waiting it seems for ever for the patches to be released) I'll be starting in the Scottish Second Division with East Fife. I'm starting with a £10k transfer kitty, a measly wage budget. I'll have coaches and players as well as a stadium that were all the Third Division last season.

I'll not be downloading any tactics, I will not look up any "good player guide" I will not use tips, nor will I cheat in any way, shape or form. I'll play my career 100% vanilla, meaning I'll use my tactics (that I've spend a couple of months developing) I'll train my players using the training regimes that I've created and I will entrust my signings on the shortlist that I've spent some time building.

I have a 5 year plan to win the SPL. I have everything in place to be able to reach my goal, well, apart from the players, finance, backroom staff, the stadium, the infrastructure.. ect.

I'm not saying that if I achieve my aim it'll be better than yours, I'll leave it to others to judge.

This is the main reason I struggle to play really long-term games

You'll be fine in FM09 then, as you have to play a REALLY REALLY REALLY long time for anyone to retire

Someone had a 65 year old goalkeeper playing for them, downright refused to retire!

Tyler Bode,

Download your tactics!!!!

I am fighting it out neck and neck with the Celts in my first season, its realistic in the sense it is just like the SPL this year....i could do with a 150 game unbeaten run in the SPL, the directors and the fans would love me.

Are you sure about not using the forward run arrows?

Tyler Bode,

Download your tactics!!!!

I am fighting it out neck and neck with the Celts in my first season, its realistic in the sense it is just like the SPL this year....i could do with a 150 game unbeaten run in the SPL, the directors and the fans would love me.

Are you sure about not using the forward run arrows?

Yes its realistic that Celtic always challenging right to the wire. Even the 3 seasons I was unbeaten, Celtic were only 3, 5 and 7 points behind me. I'll upload tactics after I walk the dog!

What you did seems extremely impressive to me, especially seeing how well you did with Rangers in the CL nd with Motherwell too. I am impressed. A natural question is, did you use editors and such things (to check PAs, don't know what you consider cheating) to help you with the game or did you find it easy as it is with no "additional" help?

can you upload your tactic

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I wanted to dismantle your face.

seems like a good set of results you have. maybe you should submit your tactics to the tactics forum and test it across various leagues see if its adaptable for all teams and leagues across the continent.

What you did seems extremely impressive to me, especially seeing how well you did with Rangers in the CL nd with Motherwell too. I am impressed. A natural question is, did you use editors and such things (to check PAs, don't know what you consider cheating) to help you with the game or did you find it easy as it is with no "additional" help?

I didn't use anything at all. I just went by my scout reports.

upload your tactics then so we can try it out

I play with Hednesford Town. Started in Blue Square South. Made a clean sweep and now I'm first in Coca Cola League 1. It's much easier than in FM2008. Why? Because I can get so many good players on a free. Especially young, gifted players which used to play for teams from Premier Division.

There are way too many players you can get on a free. That has to be fixed.

Ok here is my tactic.

http://rapidshare.com/files/202111226/tylerbode.tac.html

Its a 4-4-2. The main points to make this tactic work are:

CB's and FB's who aren't too slow with good positioning.

MC's who can pass, but aren't too bad defensively.

Wingers and ST's who are fast and can dribble.

Can't be downloaded no more it seems