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15 minutes ago, TRFC23 said:

I'd personally go for this one, if you would also like to play games other than FM - https://www.box.co.uk/FX705GM-EW019T-ASUS-TUF-FX705GM-EW019T_2400047.html

Otherwise, if it's just FM, the cheaper one should run it just as well, given the difference is just a slightly weaker graphics card, but still more than enough for FM.

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Hi Guys! 

In terms of what im looking for - I dont use the 3d match engine, generally I look at having 2/3 nations loaded (8-10) leagues, classically ive alwas used a medium database but thats mainly due to the fact that ive always had fairly poor laptops as up until the last year or so I have had crappy jobs and thus a low budget! so I would love something thats capable of dealing with a large database. Finally and probably most importantly I use the data editor a lot and install as much graphics (kits, badges, skins etc) as I can, also try my hand to creating kits via photoshop.

So heres a few links to Laptops, just wanted some second opinions really on which would be the best to go after (all the links are Argos, theres probably cheaper retailers out there but I have an Argos card so this just works easier for me) 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3299485

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8656580

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8477147

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/2848930

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3189186   

5 is probably the reach of my budget really so unless its significantly better than the previous 4 options I wouldn't really consider it 

Many Thanks!

 

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7 hours ago, ShikariFC said:

Hi Guys! 

In terms of what im looking for - I dont use the 3d match engine, generally I look at having 2/3 nations loaded (8-10) leagues, classically ive alwas used a medium database but thats mainly due to the fact that ive always had fairly poor laptops as up until the last year or so I have had crappy jobs and thus a low budget! so I would love something thats capable of dealing with a large database. Finally and probably most importantly I use the data editor a lot and install as much graphics (kits, badges, skins etc) as I can, also try my hand to creating kits via photoshop.

So heres a few links to Laptops, just wanted some second opinions really on which would be the best to go after (all the links are Argos, theres probably cheaper retailers out there but I have an Argos card so this just works easier for me) 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3299485

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8656580

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8477147

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/2848930

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3189186   

5 is probably the reach of my budget really so unless its significantly better than the previous 4 options I wouldn't really consider it 

Many Thanks!

 

None of those

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFHEK.014-Acer-Extensa-15-2540_2312768.html

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Good Morning

I need a new laptop. I purchased one a couple years ago on a limited budget but need something better now. 

I generally play with around 2-5 nations active and have no desire for the 3d engine (I'm old school) and large player database. I'd like something which is faster processing as at the moment there can be a slight delay when clicking on links through the game. The Laptop will solely be for playing FM.

My budget is between £300-£500 and id prefer to be able to collect from a store than order on-line. However if ordering on-line proves to provide a laptop that is better value and performance then that is ok.

Is this one any good?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-intel-core-i3-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10189730-pdt.html

Ive read through some previous posts and this one seems to be recommended a bit - is this best option for me?

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html

For an extra £50, is it better to get this one which may last me a few versions of future FM's?

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFHEK.014-Acer-Extensa-15-2540_2312768.html

Any help and advice would be very appreciated. 

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2 hours ago, Cuomo10 said:

Good Morning

I need a new laptop. I purchased one a couple years ago on a limited budget but need something better now. 

I generally play with around 2-5 nations active and have no desire for the 3d engine (I'm old school) and large player database. I'd like something which is faster processing as at the moment there can be a slight delay when clicking on links through the game. The Laptop will solely be for playing FM.

My budget is between £300-£500 and id prefer to be able to collect from a store than order on-line. However if ordering on-line proves to provide a laptop that is better value and performance then that is ok.

Is this one any good?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-intel-core-i3-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10189730-pdt.html

Ive read through some previous posts and this one seems to be recommended a bit - is this best option for me?

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html

For an extra £50, is it better to get this one which may last me a few versions of future FM's?

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFHEK.014-Acer-Extensa-15-2540_2312768.html

Any help and advice would be very appreciated. 

I've been recommending similar to those in the last few posts if you go back a few and read through. Cheers.

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1 minute ago, Smurf said:

Looks good !

sorry to be a pain @Smurf but i just want to be sure that i am making the right decision. In terms of performance i appreciate that the Asus is better than that Acer with the i5. Is it worth to spend that extra and get the Asus or will the Acer with the i5 be more than enough for me?

The i5-7200U is 279th in the list of processor benchmarks, whilst the i3-8145U (the cheaper Acer) is ranked higher. The Asus is 73rd so better but just want to know if there is that much difference for an extra £130 between the Asus and the Acer with the i5.

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36 minutes ago, Cuomo10 said:

sorry to be a pain @Smurf but i just want to be sure that i am making the right decision. In terms of performance i appreciate that the Asus is better than that Acer with the i5. Is it worth to spend that extra and get the Asus or will the Acer with the i5 be more than enough for me?

The i5-7200U is 279th in the list of processor benchmarks, whilst the i3-8145U (the cheaper Acer) is ranked higher. The Asus is 73rd so better but just want to know if there is that much difference for an extra £130 between the Asus and the Acer with the i5.

That's tongue twister! 

The latest you posted is the best of the list. Go for the better one if you can afford it.

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On 04/09/2019 at 20:19, oulzac said:

Figured going top of the line now will give me a bigger gap between upgrades. 7-8 years maybe. Little bit of "future proofing" in a way. Instead of upgrading roughly every three years.

 

On 04/09/2019 at 20:20, Welshace said:

Fair enough, if you can afford it .. why not! definitely the i9 then

Spotted this anouncement this morning

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2019/09/06/intels-surprise-5ghz-core-i9-9900ks-launching-in-october-offers-exciting-cascade-lake-x-tease-too/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Carrie/#63617272696

 

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8 minutes ago, Smurf said:

That's tongue twister! 

The latest you posted is the best of the list. Go for the better one if you can afford it.

thanks, Asus it is then!

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3 hours ago, Smurf said:

Thanks, I was planning on waiting until the end of this month, but I guess I'll be waiting until mid to late October now.

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On 05/09/2019 at 13:31, Smurf said:

Yep - should be perfectly fine.

Excellent, thanks Smurf much appreciated.

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Thinking of getting back into FM after 6 years away!

 

what would be the best laptop I can get for a budget of around £800? Something that will run the game smoothly?

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39 minutes ago, Spikester said:

Thinking of getting back into FM after 6 years away!

 

what would be the best laptop I can get for a budget of around £800? Something that will run the game smoothly?

If you're into other games

https://www.box.co.uk/30026173-Medion-Erazer-X6807_2644700.html

If you're not then consider this refurb.

https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-MSI-GF63-8RC-255UK_2463080.html

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17 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Thanks for the quick reply. Is the processor good enough to run FM 20 with the Medion?

Also is Medion a decent make? I was thinking that a HP, Dell or Asus would be better?

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13 minutes ago, Spikester said:

Thanks for the quick reply. Is the processor good enough to run FM 20 with the Medion?

Also is Medion a decent make? I was thinking that a HP, Dell or Asus would be better?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Erazer-X6807-i7-512F16.398216.0.html

Medion where taken over by Lenovo - and Lenovo are a good make. 

I never used to recommend Medions but lately they get good reviews. 

MSI are an excellent make too. 

It's completely up to you which one you go for. 

HPs in that price bracket tend to have flimsy screens/cheapish bodies/keyboards etc.

Take the main specs here it is either going to be an i5 8300H or an i7 8750H processor - either is fine and similar performance for FM.

Take 8gb RAM or more if you can get it. 

GTX 950 graphics card is pretty good, then the 1050, then 1060 and so on.

Stick to that and whatever brand you want. 

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On 08/09/2019 at 20:44, shd0w said:

Bought the asus fx504gd but it bricked on me after 2 days.... so back to the drawing board

what are people’s thoughts on this?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-cs1506sa-15-6-intel-core-i7-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10188853-pdt.html

Yes that one has had a few reviews of cycling in boot mode! 

This would be better

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/msi-gf63-thin-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-gaming-laptop-256-gb-ssd-10195496-pdt.html

 

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Hi all

After a bit of laptop related advice if you don’t mind

Due to a variety of issues I am being compensated with a new laptop - screen 240hz, 9750h gtx 2070, 512GB SSD. Completely overkill for my needs so am considering selling it, would any buyer have any issues if I did if they had to have something fixed under warranty? Would appreciate your input... Many thanks 

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39 minutes ago, Connor said:

Hi all

After a bit of laptop related advice if you don’t mind

Due to a variety of issues I am being compensated with a new laptop - screen 240hz, 9750h gtx 2070, 512GB SSD. Completely overkill for my needs so am considering selling it, would any buyer have any issues if I did if they had to have something fixed under warranty? Would appreciate your input... Many thanks 

It'll come down to the individual warranty agreement with the store giving you the laptop. A lot of those warranties aren't transferable though, and if that's the case they wouldn't be able to get it fixed on warranty.

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Hi ive a friend selling a laptop the same as in the link below.

HP Pavilion 14-bk154sa (3DL70EA#ABU) - 14" Laptop Intel Core i5-8250U 1.6 GHz / 3.4 GHz Turbo Quad Core Processor, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, HD Display, HDMI, USB 3.1., Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BVJ82J2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WjvEDbWSP5AE5

I only would like to play with 6 or 7 leagues with a small database, i only play matches in 2d also so graphics wouldnt matter too much.

Would this laptop be suitable or can anyone recommemd a laptop to me for a budget of £250 to £300. I know its low but id be willing to buy refurbished.

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Hi to all,

I'd like to ask an advice because I have to buy some parts for my desktop PC.

I don't want to spend too much, ideally below 300€, for buying CPU, MB, RAM and SSD. I will play FM only in 2D mode and with maximum 4/5 different leagues loaded.

I was looking at a configuration with:

- AMD Ryzen 3 2200G

- 16 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance 3000 MHz DDR4 (I will also use Photoshop for entertainment)

- MB (reallly I don't know but I suppose it won't be so important)

- SSD 250 Gb

The question is: will it be enough in terms of CPU and graphic cards for running FM only in 2D mode?

Thank you

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8 minutes ago, Spikester said:

I'll try come back to others in this thread - but saw this and had to say WOW - great deal! GET IT WHILE IT'S HOT!!!

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Just now, Smurf said:

I'll try come back to others in this thread - but saw this and had to say WOW - great deal! GET IT WHILE IT'S HOT!!!

Cheers buddy! I have ordered it but delivery is 1-2months so not sure they will honour it.

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Hi guys,

I've missed out on the hotukdeal hp laptop above, would have ordered it if I had seen it early enough! 

I’ll be playing in fm20 in 2d with 4-6 leagues medium database. I don’t play any other games and won’t use the laptop for anything else.

Whats your thoughts on this laptop? Or is there an alternative cheaper than this? 

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

Appreciate any input, thanks

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On 11/09/2019 at 21:05, BogueMan said:

Hi ive a friend selling a laptop the same as in the link below.

HP Pavilion 14-bk154sa (3DL70EA#ABU) - 14" Laptop Intel Core i5-8250U 1.6 GHz / 3.4 GHz Turbo Quad Core Processor, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, HD Display, HDMI, USB 3.1., Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BVJ82J2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WjvEDbWSP5AE5

I only would like to play with 6 or 7 leagues with a small database, i only play matches in 2d also so graphics wouldnt matter too much.

Would this laptop be suitable or can anyone recommemd a laptop to me for a budget of £250 to £300. I know its low but id be willing to buy refurbished.

I don't think it would be suitable, but if your budget is 250 to 300 then probably best you can do.

This is probably best you could do - and I'd recommend this over the other one https://www.box.co.uk/(Refurbished)-Acer-Aspire-5-A517-51-33YD_2417968.html

On 12/09/2019 at 07:53, Ivan787 said:

Hi to all,

I'd like to ask an advice because I have to buy some parts for my desktop PC.

I don't want to spend too much, ideally below 300€, for buying CPU, MB, RAM and SSD. I will play FM only in 2D mode and with maximum 4/5 different leagues loaded.

I was looking at a configuration with:

- AMD Ryzen 3 2200G

- 16 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance 3000 MHz DDR4 (I will also use Photoshop for entertainment)

- MB (reallly I don't know but I suppose it won't be so important)

- SSD 250 Gb

The question is: will it be enough in terms of CPU and graphic cards for running FM only in 2D mode?

Thank you

See above - €300 will get you very little. Certainly not anything to run Photoshop - and what do yo mean "entertainment"? 

 

 

19 hours ago, Spikester said:

Cheers buddy! I have ordered it but delivery is 1-2months so not sure they will honour it.

Usually, if it's too good to be true... good luck let us know how you get on!

1 hour ago, Mbh90 said:

Hi guys,

I've missed out on the hotukdeal hp laptop above, would have ordered it if I had seen it early enough! 

I’ll be playing in fm20 in 2d with 4-6 leagues medium database. I don’t play any other games and won’t use the laptop for anything else.

Whats your thoughts on this laptop? Or is there an alternative cheaper than this? 

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

Appreciate any input, thanks

That would be perfectly fine for your use.

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7 hours ago, Mbh90 said:

Thanks smurf! I’ve just come across this with a better processor for £50 more.. good deal?

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000

This one won't boot up or load games as quickly initially, because whilst it has much more storage space, it's a standard hard drive, as opposed to the solid state drive in the cheaper one (but that one has barely any storage space on it), but processing will likely be a bit faster, though whether you'd notice the difference, I'm not sure (it's only 0.1GHz difference in processing speed for both the base speed and the boosted speed). I'd probably go for the Argos one anyway though, as you'll be able to save a lot more on the hard drive, even if it does boot slightly slower.

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4 minutes ago, NabsKebabs said:

It's a good laptop, it'd blitz FM19 and 20. I'd, however, go with this one: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/laptops/dell-gaming/dell-g3-15-3590-15-6-gaming-laptop-i7/391021/

It has 16GB RAM rather than just the 8GB in the one you linked, and FM isn't going to look any different on a 120Hz screen compared to a 60Hz screen.

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4 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

It's a good laptop, it'd blitz FM19 and 20. I'd, however, go with this one: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/laptops/dell-gaming/dell-g3-15-3590-15-6-gaming-laptop-i7/391021/

It has 16GB RAM rather than just the 8GB in the one you linked, and FM isn't going to look any different on a 120Hz screen compared to a 60Hz screen.

I actually looked at that but for some reason didn't notice the RAM was 16GB! Thanks for pointing that out mate!

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15 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

This one won't boot up or load games as quickly initially, because whilst it has much more storage space, it's a standard hard drive, as opposed to the solid state drive in the cheaper one (but that one has barely any storage space on it), but processing will likely be a bit faster, though whether you'd notice the difference, I'm not sure (it's only 0.1GHz difference in processing speed for both the base speed and the boosted speed). I'd probably go for the Argos one anyway though, as you'll be able to save a lot more on the hard drive, even if it does boot slightly slower.

I’ve read some reviews on asus fx laptops thermal throttling so decided against that and chose to stick with a laptop that has an ssd. I’ve bought this one now 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-bc550na-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop-512-gb-ssd-10193844-pdt.html

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20 hours ago, Mbh90 said:

I’ve read some reviews on asus fx laptops thermal throttling so decided against that and chose to stick with a laptop that has an ssd. I’ve bought this one now 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-bc550na-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop-512-gb-ssd-10193844-pdt.html

Ssd has little or no effect for FM performance.

Youre better off putting money into the processor and graphics card.

This is for everyones benefit:

You cannot change the processor or the graphics card in most laptops.

What you can change is the RAM and the hard drive. Both easily done they are plug and play. Mosy laptops just have a piece you unscrew under the laptop.

If you are not bothered about 3d put your money into the processor.

8gb Ram is min.

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29 minutes ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Ok so I apologise if I’m on the wrong thread before hand. So I’m about to purchase a laptop after a few years of playing football manager touch, however as a student I’m on a budget so I can’t exactly splash out on a expensive laptop. Most of the laptops around my budget range have 4gb ram is this good enough to run football manager or no? I also have no idea about specs and so on with laptops so thanks for all you guys help in advance. 

4gb won't be enough - please let us know your budget and we can take a look and see if there's anything we can find online.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Smurf said:

Ssd has little or no effect for FM performance.

Youre better off putting money into the processor and graphics card.

This is for everyones benefit:

You cannot change the processor or the graphics card in most laptops.

What you can change is the RAM and the hard drive. Both easily done they are plug and play. Mosy laptops just have a piece you unscrew under the laptop.

If you are not bothered about 3d put your money into the processor.

8gb Ram is min.

I’m not bothered about 3d.. I looked at 3 laptops,all three have 8gb ram and GTX1050 graphics one of those had i5-8300h processor and the other two have the i5-9300h processor. I chose the one with i5-9300h processor and ssd for faster loading times 

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15 hours ago, Mbh90 said:

I’m not bothered about 3d.. I looked at 3 laptops,all three have 8gb ram and GTX1050 graphics one of those had i5-8300h processor and the other two have the i5-9300h processor. I chose the one with i5-9300h processor and ssd for faster loading times 

You don't get faster loading times. 

All in in all the i5-9300h is a step up from the i5-8300h. 

You can always add more RAM to bring it up to 16gb.

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3 hours ago, Smurf said:

You don't get faster loading times. 

All in in all the i5-9300h is a step up from the i5-8300h. 

You can always add more RAM to bring it up to 16gb.

Oh I thought I read that somewhere here lol

Is it just a case of removing old one and fitting new one plug and play? 

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1 hour ago, Mbh90 said:

Oh I thought I read that somewhere here lol

Is it just a case of removing old one and fitting new one plug and play? 

Absolutely - you can even do a computer Scan using Crucial or something like that and it will tell you exactly what type of RAM to get.

All I mean by the SSD is don't worry about that if you're on a low budget - the processor is king for FM. If you play 3D graphics then a mediocre one will do.

The 2 key components you can change are RAM and Hard Drive.

What you can't change is the processor and the graphics card. 

The processor is the most important thing, and a graphics card - the rest can be changed at a later date.

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10 minutes ago, Paul Antono said:

Dear all,

This specs are fine for medium settings?(2-3 leagues  and 3d match)

i5 7200u
8gb
nvidia 150mx 2gb
256 ssd

Thanks.

Should be ok.

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Hi I'm looking for a new laptop that can handle 125k players (Or preferably 135k) for long journeyman saves.

I have £900 but can push this out to £1200 if the increase in performance is worth it. 

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44 minutes ago, mistuhg said:

Hi I'm looking for a new laptop that can handle 125k players (Or preferably 135k) for long journeyman saves.

I have £900 but can push this out to £1200 if the increase in performance is worth it. 

That's a big budget for that kind of database... depends on how many leagues are active i guess.. but the one i'm using now cost me £700 and it handles 200k+ databases with ease..

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32 minutes ago, mistuhg said:

Hi I'm looking for a new laptop that can handle 125k players (Or preferably 135k) for long journeyman saves.

I have £900 but can push this out to £1200 if the increase in performance is worth it. 

Firstly, nobody can tell you how many players it can handle - mostly, all computers can handle that amount - but it would depend on how fast you want the game to progress, which is a guess too. 

What you can do is get the best processor for that price. You haven't mentioned if you require to watch the matches in 3D or not.

These 2 are pretty much on par

https://www.box.co.uk/6RR67EABOX-HP-OMEN-15-dc1024na-16GB_2696779.html

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-16P732-478-MSI-GL63-9SD-478UK_2513737.html

Research both model numbers for reviews - DC1024NA-16GB and GL63 9SD-478UK

 

You won't do much processor wise - and processor would be king for what you need.

Check out the opeing post.

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1 hour ago, mistuhg said:

Hi I'm looking for a new laptop that can handle 125k players (Or preferably 135k) for long journeyman saves.

I have £900 but can push this out to £1200 if the increase in performance is worth it. 

20 minutes ago, Welshace said:

That's a big budget for that kind of database... depends on how many leagues are active i guess.. but the one i'm using now cost me £700 and it handles 200k+ databases with ease..

 

Just now, Smurf said:

snip

I spoke too soon!

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My current laptop has an i5 6200U processor and 8 GB RAM. I think the game (FMT 19) is rather slow on it, but then again I have nothing to compare it to. 

Would the above specs be considered "good", "average" or "poor" for FM? 

If my laptop isn't "good", what should I look for in a replacement? Do I need to look at the "gaming" laptops? (they are huge and look like... yeah). 

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