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  1. @Rashidi something I find interesting is that in the video you mention that playing on structured allows your players to use the width of pitch. Could you please explain how structured shape uses the width of the pitch more so than fluid?
  2. Pass into space TI should work really with Bournemouth. The AI Bournemouth is absolutely deadly in fast transitions. You have fast attackers and a few attack duties, who naturally attack space and a lot of teams will likely concede some space behind against you. If a team is sitting back, remove the shout. But overall you shouldn't feel such a need to use a TI anyway.
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  4. What went...right?

    It could possibly be that striker is too isolated in the set up? CM(attack) would be quicker to support the striker then box to box as that's a support duty. Also the BWM role would offer more support than the DLP. Does your striker have a lot of strength? Because he needs a lot to actually hold up the ball and wait for support.
  5. Player roles and duties are the most defining thing about the player's behaviour so yes in your set up with all those defend duties, they are going to be just thinking about defending. Your set up is extremely defensive. Fluid shapes still increase their mentality though. Fluid shape in the title doesn't mean I'm isolating fluid. I mean the fluid spectrum
  6. Very fluid increases mentality of defenders to bring them closer to the other players. So they will be more adventurous on fluid shapes than structured ones. What is wrong with saying that? I'm not saying playing on a fluid shape means you are automatically gonna be conceding counters like crazy. I'm just saying it's more vulnerable. You can be solid and play on a fluid shape, I do it all the time. I'm just saying you are a bit more vulnerable to balls over the top and counters then on structured. I'm not exactly saying structured = more solid defence. I'm saying structured is better at defending from balls over the top and counters as you committing defenders less in transitions. You can play on low mentality and very fluid and have everyone sit back and defend. It's just that on fluid, when you have the ball, defenders will commit themselves forward more which does leave you mroe prone to balls over the top/counter attacks.
  7. Yes I can claim that. His system is naturally solid due to player roles and formation. But when he has the ball, due to the fluid shape, more played are involved in the transition and that leaves less cover at the back.
  8. I have you seen you say closing down doesn't effect anything else. Here is is: https://community.sigames.com/topic/362872-the-art-of-possession-football/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-200381 "Closing down does not raise the defensive line. It changes closing down only nothing else." I'm just isolating team shape in this discussion though. Obviously everything else plays a part but my overall point is that fluid shapes are more vulnerable so you have to assume that everything else is constant. In numerous videos, Rashidi says he uses a normal defensive line when playing a fluid shape because balls are more prone to going over the top. He often uses push higher up when playing on structured or flexible. And that all makes sense to me.
  9. I don't think that addresses the point to be honest. You have a solid defence due to player roles and formation. The fact is playing on fluid raises the mentality of your defenders. On structured, you would be even more defensively sound.
  10. Yesterday @Cleon and I were having a pretty interesting discussion regarding shape and I think it actually deserves a thread of it's own. I'm convinced that more fluid shapes are a lot more vulnerable to counter attacks and balls over the top. I first heard the idea that fluid shapes were more vulnerable to balls over the top in one of @Rashidi's videos. According to Cleon, being on a higher mentality plays a much bigger part than shape in being vulnerable to counters. But I actually think that standard/very fluid is much more risky than say control/highly structured. Standard/Very Fluid vs Control/Highly Structured The interesting thing here is that standard/very fluid has a lot more closing down than control/highly structured. Control/highly structured has a a higher defensive line. BUT is there a bug in the UI? When you change shape, closing down changes but defensive line doesn't change. But when you change closing down by itself, defensive line does change. It doesn't make any sense. In terms of mentality distribution, it's quite interesting to look at how some positions are effected. Central defenders mentality on standard/very fluid vs control highly structured: As you can see from the green bar at the top, the mentality of a central defender is considerably higher on standard/very fluid then on control highly structured. From my understanding, this means he will position himself higher up the pitch. You can also see closing down is more which makes sense considering the comparison on the TI screen. I also looked a wingback on support (in WB strata). Again considerably higher mentality and closing down on standard/very fluid vs control/highly structured. Higher mentality - positions himself higher up the pitch and make more forward runs. I have also seen Cleon say that closing down does not effect defensive line at all which I don't understand. It does on TI UI and if you are closing down more, aren't you effectively making the pitch smaller and therefore the defensive line pushes up? Shape can get very confusing. The way I use is if I want to compress the pitch and throw everyone in to their opposition half I go more fluid. If I want to hit the opposition on the break, I go structured, to let my attackers bomb forward earlier in transitions.
  11. Make sure you give your defenders the PI to play fewer risky passes, this means they will look to pass to feet much more often than not. Use in conjunction with TI play out of defence. Since you are playing the current Arsenal formation, you're only using 2 CM's right? Something like DLP(s) and BBM(s) perhaps?
  12. Ball playing defenders have the PI plays more risky passes by default so that's why they launch passes into space. Maybe have your central defenders learn the trait bring balls out of defence?
  13. Agree that control mentality plays more of a part hence why I have started some games on started mentality. But surely more closing down means you will leave more space in behind? If you increase defensive line in the TI's, the closing down bar increases and vice versa. It also just makes sense that if you are closing down more, your plays will vacate their defensive positions more and leave more gaps behind. It's not that I don't want your input, I'm just debating it.
  14. I'm gonna have to disagree, in my experience fluid systems are lot more prone to balls over the top and counters. Look at how much shape effects closing down as shown in the TI UI. On highly structured vs very fluid The closing down meter changes a lot. The more you close down, the more space in behind you are gonna leave.
  15. EPL Game 24 vs Leicester (away) Leicester play 433 and do have a lot of pace up top. In this match, I decide to start on flexible shape because more fluid leaves me more exposed at the back. Review: Leicester 2-2 Huddersfield Another 2-2 draw here and we were probably the better side in this one. We managed to score from the kick off with good passing play giving us the lead in the first minute. Leicester managed a quick response through a counter attack but I didn't decide to change anything. I actually put the goal more down to our defenders just not being very good because we weren't actually that exposed by the counter attack - we just didn't defend it very well. We go back up thanks to a free kick that results in a goal. On the stroke of half time. Leicester build up nicely and manged to score via a cross. There wasn't much I could really do about it. Second half, I didn't change anything until Danny Simpson got sent off for them in the 70th minute. I decide to go up to very fluid to compact the pitch and try to overwhelm them with numbers. I also throw my left wingback into an attack duty as I noticed they were using Albrighton as a right back so I wanted to put a lot of pressure on that side of the pitch. We were putting a lot of pressure on them but just couldn't get the goal. In the last few minutes I went to overload mentality but Leicester managed to hold out. 12-6-6 (5th)
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