knap Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs !FM118.3.3GOODBYEVOL7KnapP101.fmf Tested with Arsenal in FMT no OIs. FM 18.3.0 !FM118.3.0GOODBYEVOL6KnapP103.fmf Tested with Spurs in FMT no OIs FM 18.2.2 VOL 5 !FM118.2.2GOODBYEVOL5KnapTHP101.fmf Tested with Arsenal no OIs. FM 18.2.2 VOL 4 !FM118.2.2GOODBYEVO4KnapP104.fmf VOL 3 !FM118.2.2GOODBYEVO3KnapP103.fmf FM18.2.1 VOL 2 CONTROL !FM118.2.1GOODBYEVO2CONTROLKnapP104.fmf Based on FM17 Tactic ¬!FM18.2.1GOODBYE343P108.fmf VOL 2 !FM118.2.1GOODBYEVO2KnapP104.fmf !FM118.2.1GOODBYEKnap343P102.fmf !FM118GOODBYEKnap343P101.fmf Tested with Spurs no OIs Minor tweaks !FM118GOODBYEKnap343P101CTHP93.fmf Original High Tempo !!FM18goodbye343P92.fmf !FM118.3.0GOODBYEVOL6KnapP103.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiceboy78 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 thanks! will try it with Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Fantastic work will try this updated version now ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 The original with tweaked corners is also in OP because it is so high scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Any details about the tactic at all @knap before I use it with my players? Would you recommend my pacier strickers as the DLF as they might find themselves in wide positions, or just technical deep forwards that are good at bringing the AF into play. For example, which one would Kane or Rashford be better at? I do hover round these forums a lot, but I don't always download a tactic because I need more info. Kudos for doing it mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 The Arsenal team is a guide to what sort of players will work. Good players play well and If you take Kane he can play AF CF DLF F9 SS. What I tend to do is go with Ass Man pick, but then change players around during a game and see if any advantages or disadvantages show up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkaco Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 @knap Are you going to put a 3421? I'm using the Spurs and I don't have 3 strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Can try dropping 2 fwds to SS. I need to look at best set up but that is workable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkaco Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Just now, knap said: Can try dropping 2 fwds to SS. I need to look at best set up but that is workable. I put Dele as SS and Eriksen as AP support. Lost to Palace :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Eriksen would be SS as well. The amc line is not yet working as well as last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDL1994 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Using this Tactic. I'm not sure of the effectiveness of the IWB's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 I like to try out the new roles, but most tactics last year changed from IWB to WB eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyAI Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Little off topic but, does anyone else agree that we should see a much more in depth tactical set up taking into account transitional phases of the game? for example, I want my team to play compact and narrow the field of play in the defensive transition forcing teams to either play over me or around me and then in the attack transition I'd like my team to spread the formation out as wide as possible to hense create space and numerous passing lanes. I ask this question as I take inspiration from carlos carvahal in his book regarding the besiktas morphocycle. Now I could be completely wrong and there may be a perfectly good way to impose these transitions into the Game but I at a loss of how to do this?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Tweaked double SS system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapbot Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Chippenham media prediction 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 just a little progress update, season 2, harry kane and lloris both had some injuries but the backup (especially florin Andone ) did very well. the only hiccup was the carabao cup which I played youth players. Also ill point out I havnt played any of the "big clubs yet" but still so far so good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, tottenham2k7 said: just a little progress update, season 2, harry kane and lloris both had some injuries but the backup (especially florin Andone ) did very well. the only hiccup was the carabao cup which I played youth players. Also ill point out I havnt played any of the "big clubs yet" but still so far so good. Who are you playing as your front 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 bare in mind I'm in season 2, and won the quadrouple with knaps tactic, I play with harry kane , mauro icardi and alexis sanchez as the top 3, however before I got sanchez ( free transfer ) in season one, I was using llorente, icardi and florin andone as my top 3 (harry kane had 4 major injuries and played 8 times in season one!) icardi always as the top striker, llorente did very well as DLF as did Son before he decided he wanted to move on in January!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Check out llorentes stats from the season (his cup and continental form also!!) , I only sold him as I thought id get in some better players due to the increase in rep......its backfired though as not gelling as well lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Im just starting in season 1 and going to retrain Eriksen & Alli to play on th DLF roles... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwaniwanowitsch Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 @knap, do you have any individual training suggestions for this tactic? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 yes I did retrain eriksen but tbh he barely got a game. alli and wanyama were my midfield duo ( dembele was injured for 3 months and never got back into the side) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 I am using FMT and have not even looked at training. Retraining for roles is a good idea. Is Lamela not around as usually very good for me if not injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 typical Blue matter, score plenty of goals, but less cleansheet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 Couple of late goals. When I used it with Barcelona last year it scored 177 goals, so it has always been about scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 177 goals included cups competition? if yes, where to check Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck73 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 example blue matter result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 177 goals in 38 league game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 Also conceded!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixta79 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 which one is that from the op? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 FM17 version of BLUE MATTER 433 in OP of BLUE MATTER thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixta79 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 this one? https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=71803 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 The other VOL1, II changed the midfield to use the new roles for VOL 2, but all the other underlying settings are the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersve Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 22 hours ago, tottenham2k7 said: yes I did retrain eriksen but tbh he barely got a game. alli and wanyama were my midfield duo ( dembele was injured for 3 months and never got back into the side) wich one of the goodbye are u using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy1897 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Great tactic. Unbeaten with 14 wins and 1 draw. 3rd tier in Portugal. Favorites for the title, but still very impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Knap, if you were to suggest converting one of the 3 forwards into a AMC position which would it be? I have a couple of good AM's and want to get them in, was thinking dropping the DLF(A) to be either AM(A) or SS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 There is a 3421 tactic in Beta thread. I tend to use the same role on a 2 striker and duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 What. The. ****... Is going on... Oh @knap i think you`ve done it again. This is Hellas Verona, predicted to go down. Terrible squad, no money. Need another striker, so i got Bjørn Bergmann Sigurdarsson from Molde for 800k, in Norwegian Eliteserien. And now this... He`s scored 16 goals in 13 games in the Serie A, with 6 assists... Haha, he doesnt even score in Norway! 33 years old Pazzini have 12 in 12 games, and reject Cerci has 7 in 12 with 5 assists... Did not lose until an accident against rome in the 2nd last game before writing this due to a red card, was thinking maybe that was it.. Loosing streak incoming. So Milan next, i use instant result all season, but now i press space to fast, so i have to play the game. Great, probably have to watch a huge loss. Suddenly 3-0 up after 17 mins, and im screaming in the couch so the cat hides behind the sofa.. Ac Milan did not have a shot.. Until the 43min. 1-6??? Mum im not coming hoome this week! Maybe this is the 2018 underdog tactic? This Verona team is so poor... PS! While im writing this i beat Udinese 7-0.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hopefully this is the 2018 underdog tactic and interchangeable with GOODBYE 3430. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin10006 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, knap said: Hopefully this is the 2018 underdog tactic and interchangeable with GOODBYE 3430. Hey there, Which tactic would you think is the best for a team like Chelsea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Either this or NLUE MATTER.There is also a 3421.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, knap said: Hopefully this is the 2018 underdog tactic and interchangeable with GOODBYE 3430. Hi Knap , you know how much appreciate your tactics , but underdog ? attacking with 3 strikers ? instant result means nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 The testing in FM 16 by WILL was all instant result based, and is part of game in FMT. Underdog with 3 SSs should not have worked. The 3st tactics are only tactics over 100 pts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, knap said: The 3st tactics are only tactics over 100 pts So i guess SI fixed SS problem with better closing down, but this again makes more room for 3 strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urotsukidoji Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Having great success with this tactic at Blackburn. Won league one and efl trophy first season. Second season won championship. Broke records in league one and the championship for points won, goals scored, unbeaten run, and games won in a row. Players include Thierry Ambrose on loan, Gedion Zelalem, David Raya, Harry Charsley. and some regens from the youth team. My best player was Rankin-Costello who I trained as a deep lying forward, but West Ham met his 14 million transfer clause and I had to sell him. Now ready for the premiership with a transfer budget of 46 million to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 @knap can you make a 433 with AML/AMR please? Do you think we can finally play with wingers in this FM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsdaft1982 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 So if you were to drop 2 strikers to AMC position as SS, would you use the same PI's as the 2 DLF's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 A double SS works but a double AM A worked better - tactic is in Beta thread as 95 pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsdaft1982 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, knap said: A double SS works but a double AM A worked better - tactic is in Beta thread as 95 pts. Cool, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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