FuSS Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Merry Christmas all and good luck with your holiday gaming, I'm off to visit family for a few days. Thanks, FuSS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidanger Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 What pitch size do you use with this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Fuss you have been a superstar mate, after the next patch comes out we will have to look at making a tactic together, See what we can come up with. Merry Christmas. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Santos Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Merry Christmas to all familly sigames and people of this forum A big hug from an FM addict with 40 years Ps: my son can not win me with these tactics wonderful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 i think you should spoiler the pa bit gee are you might get a Infraction Yeah good idea. I usually use spoiler tags too, just totally forgot this time :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3nick Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 First season with Málaga not bad but your 4-2-3-1 is my favorite because in my opinion is better, create more ccc and fotball is beautiful to watch For next part season I want switch to 4-2-3-1 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 First season with Málaga not bad but your 4-2-3-1 is my favorite because in my opinion is better, create more ccc and fotball is beautiful to watch For next part season I want switch to 4-2-3-1 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Hey, j3nick How is your season going on? Which tactic you have found better and why? 4-2-3-1 or this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazaveli Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Can we use a playmaker for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 Can we use a playmaker for this? I'm a big fan of play makers, but haven't tried it in this tactic. 1) I see two possibilities...if you have a good all-rounder as a striker (Wayne Rooney style player), then he could play as a playmaker in one of the striker positions. 2) If you have a very capable MC or DMC that can play the ball well (I.E. a deep playing play maker), then one of the DMC's could be worth trying out as a playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasseman Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Hey FuSS, i've gotten bored of being at Tottenham (won just about everything 3 years in a row). I'm currently in 2017 and at Leyton Orient, I think I'll give this tactic a go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 FuSS, are you inverting strikers? I mean the foot obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 FuSS, are you inverting strikers? I mean the foot obviously. Yes I play them upside down It's nothing something I find matters too much, but yes in theory you'll score more with a lefty on the right and a righty on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Hey FuSS, i've gotten bored of being at Tottenham (won just about everything 3 years in a row). I'm currently in 2017 and at Leyton Orient, I think I'll give this tactic a go there. you won everything three years in a row with this tactic? Do you mind uploading some screenshots or summin ? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 you won everything three years in a row with this tactic? Do you mind uploading some screenshots or summin ? thanks I'm about to go 2 years unbeaten in all competitions with Norwich myself It's very easy to do with a big team like spurs...fun though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 With a good team it just gets silly... I should emphasise this is Norwich, second season, in my personal game and my first team is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 double post - opps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 The squad (had a lot of cash after winning the treble first season, had almost 30m+my player sales). My most expensive current player is Weiss as 4m, take that Man City! Although I did buy Bocchetti (a personal favourite of mine), for 9m over 48months at that start of the season, however Real Madrid activated his Release Clause in January (lost one of the best young defenders in the game for only 24m still not a bad profit in 6months) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 okay, so i think im going to use this tactic haha. Cheers, didn't realise it was this good. I have modric and fletcher so i suppose i will have to retrain them to dms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3nick Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Hey, j3nick How is your season going on? Which tactic you have found better and why? 4-2-3-1 or this one? Different tools for different jobs.Coterminosity has an AMC (some people love to have the likes of Ganso or VDV in a tactic), It's counter-attacking and very fast on the break, and it can result in some amazing score-lines. Fusstidious uses two strikers (which a lot of people asked for), It's a slow build up tactic, and tends to result in higher possession and control of the game, but does score less goals. Which is better? Do you have a good AMC or great strikers? Which style of play do you prefer? It's up to you I agree with this both tactic are solid I prefer 4-2-3-1 becouse I love this formation and how my team play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3nick Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Some screen how my season finish still play 4-2-2-2 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 impressive mate. How did you get on in the other competitions? and who was your playmaker at malaga btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3nick Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 impressive mate. How did you get on in the other competitions? and who was your playmaker at malaga btw? I played without playmaker. La liga win Spanisch cup win I hope we can win Champion league next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 okay, so i think im going to use this tactic haha.Cheers, didn't realise it was this good. I have modric and fletcher so i suppose i will have to retrain them to dms I'd use Moderic on the wing, he'll be great there. impressive mate. How did you get on in the other competitions? and who was your playmaker at malaga btw? There's no playmaker in this tactic. I played without playmaker. La liga win Spanisch cup win I hope we can win Champion league next season Nice results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubisch Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Whats the Pitch size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 Whats the Pitch size? whatever size is appropriate for your team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
15cnbrk12345 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 fuss it is first time i'm using your tactic and i really liked it it's really effective both attack and defence altough i want to ask you ,what should i do when i want to shut the game and try to preserve the score ? btw thanks for all working to make our games much fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Fuss so you think the 4222 is better overall with the right players compared to the 4231? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Lol In before.. I'm working on rebuilding my Vitesse to implement this at half season, will let you know how I get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 fuss it is first time i'm using your tactic and i really liked it it's really effective both attack and defence altough i want to ask you ,what should i do when i want to shut the game and try to preserve the score ?btw thanks for all working to make our games much fun Glad it's working well for you. I dont tend to preserve a score, it's too dangerous to sit back and defend in FM12, just keep plugging away. Although do put fresh full-backs on if you can, and do swap out defenders with yellow cards as they'll be too reluctant to make harsh tackles in the closing minutes otherwise. Fuss so you think the 4222 is better overall with the right players compared to the 4231? see post 117 I think the 4231 is more specialised, it's very reliant on your AMC. If you have a great AMC that is on form and performs consistently, then I'd prob pick the 4231. That said this 4222 is probably a bit more plug and play and it's currently my personal favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
irabbit Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 this tactic can play wit 12.0.4 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupers1876 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Can anybody upload this to somewhere other than mediafire? The link doesn't seem to be working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
15cnbrk12345 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Glad it's working well for you. I dont tend to preserve a score, it's too dangerous to sit back and defend in FM12, just keep plugging away. Although do put fresh full-backs on if you can, and do swap out defenders with yellow cards as they'll be too reluctant to make harsh tackles in the closing minutes otherwise. thanks for tips but i fortgot to ask what do you do when you are beaten and what do you do when your player out because of red card Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 thanks for tips but i fortgot to ask what do you do when you are beaten and what do you do when your player out because of red card If you're losing - move width to around 14, tackling to hard, and closing down to around 18....this will make your players work very hard to get the ball and make more use of attacks down the flanks to stretch the opposition. If you lose a man - depends on the opposition, either lose a striker or a DM and move the left over person central...usually depends on the opponent your playing, obviously losing a striker is safer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
casperpld Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The tactic is great. Great work FuSS!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Do you use FMScout Fuss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 The squad (had a lot of cash after winning the treble first season, had almost 30m+my player sales). My most expensive current player is Weiss as 4m, take that Man City! Although I did buy Bocchetti (a personal favourite of mine), for 9m over 48months at that start of the season, however Real Madrid activated his Release Clause in January (lost one of the best young defenders in the game for only 24m still not a bad profit in 6months) What i like best about this is your thinking on what you need regards players to fit your tactic, Looking at the squad depth it is fantastic. I must applaud you for your tactic making and general thinking regarding FM, Great work Ben. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conz2008 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Which tactic are people having the success with? The one on the Opening Post or the Beta in post 57? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelthestrange Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Considering you are suggesting fast strikers in the OP but are having success with Wilfried and Pavlyuchenko, would you say slower strikers can work as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Which tactic are people having the success with? The one on the Opening Post or the Beta in post 57? It's the same link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Considering you are suggesting fast strikers in the OP but are having success with Wilfried and Pavlyuchenko, would you say slower strikers can work as well? Wilfried and Pav are reasonably fast though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Don't the striker and winger settings sort of oppose eachother, Run with ball often + Hold up ball, how does this work? Seems more effective for me when unticking the hold up ball and roam from position boxes on wingers and strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Don't the striker and winger settings sort of oppose eachother, Run with ball often + Hold up ball, how does this work? Seems more effective for me when unticking the hold up ball and roam from position boxes on wingers and strikers. These settings have been explained in an earlier post (#71) - it may be more effective for you to alter them given your particular team, I always encourage people to play around and see what suits them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 These settings have been explained in an earlier post (#71) - it may be more effective for you to alter them given your particular team, I always encourage people to play around and see what suits them. Oops, sorry I missed that post. Will try it again as it was, maybe wasn't as good for me as my wingers are a bit on the slow side, Brunt and Dorrans. I am leading the prem in January with WBA in season 1 with a few modifications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Thanks, first glance the settings look a little mad, but there's Magners (I mean method) in the madness!DM's - Hold up, so that the rest of the team has a chance to get forward, and they're strong enough to not get their pockets picked. - Roaming, as two DM's frankly overkill, so roaming allows them to still get forward and get involved in play don't you find them drifting out wide 2 much ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 don't you find them drifting out wide 2 much ? Not really no - I find players with low creativity set to roam don't tend to go too far. They need to roam a little to fill the gap between the defence and then attack, otherwise it becomes a long ball game, which doesn't work well. If there was only 1DMC I wouldn't allow the to drift, but as there's two they seem to cover things just fine. there is an argument to set it up as one more defensive DM and one more attacking DM instead...which too be fair I haven't looked into too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Not really no - I find players with low creativity set to roam don't tend to go too far. They need to roam a little to fill the gap between the defence and then attack, otherwise it becomes a long ball game, which doesn't work well. If there was only 1DMC I wouldn't allow the to drift, but as there's two they seem to cover things just fine.there is an argument to set it up as one more defensive DM and one more attacking DM instead...which too be fair I haven't looked into too much. ok ive not used this yet but used some of the setting of it to weak the 4231 into 4141 what i put up on the 4231 thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just started trying this tactic and im winning all my friendlies convincingly with my man utd squad ( bought modric, neymar and hummels Season 2). One thing i noticed is that the movment is lovely to watch. Hopefully it continues this way when i get into the full season and the tactic is fluid. Keep you posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianscousemac Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Anyone else having a problem with OI's being applied in certain games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Anyone else having a problem with OI's being applied in certain games? been said b4 look at opening post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 okay, so i think im going to use this tactic haha.Cheers, didn't realise it was this good. I have modric and fletcher so i suppose i will have to retrain them to dms I would seriously advise you not to retrain Modric to DM. He is not suited to that position at all. If you want him in your team using this tactic, then you should use him as a winger I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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