Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I have Decided to call this Tactic the ‘Swarm’ Tactic because that’s what it does to the opposition swarms there 30 yard area with some of the best attacking play I have ever created in a tactic, Seriously it’s beautiful to watch A lot of you that follow my thread will already know that I have had some problems with the Defence of this particular tactic and the fact that I have ‘Rebuilt’ the tactic in the TC on purpose so I can use the ‘Rigid’ Philosophy, This Philosophy is key to the tactic staying in shape and it being as stable as possible in defence. I have tested this tactic in English Leagues only, With Tottenham Middlesbrough and Lastly Huddersfield, I have had success with all of the Tests going unbeaten in all 3 tests ranging from 18 games to 10 games on each test I would suggest in having fast defenders, I know that’s given but it does help if they can cover ground quickly The 2 midfield positions are key to the tactic being stable I honestly think – You can if you want move the CM’s into the DM position, This will not take anything away from the attacking play but It will stop the CM’s going forward hence making the tactic more stable at the back because of the cover the DM’s will provide, you could have 1 DM and 1 CM or you could just leave it as it is. If I where to give some advice about this though is that look at the opposition if you feel that you might need the extra cover in midfield move both back if your not sure move 1 back or if you think that you will OK and win comfortably leave it as is, The CM’s being left in the position will provide added attacking options for the wingers and strikers but use it wisely, Other good attacking teams can counter that’s why I suggest you asses the situation first. Wingers and Strikers have blown me away, From top players that Tottenham posses to the not so skilled players of Middlesbrough and Huddersfield, They play with the same attacking intent that is a joy to watch but even better to know that I have created this attacking play that seems to go with each team I manage which is brilliant for you as you lot seem to manage all sorts of different teams. I have set up corners with them in swinging into the near post for the left central defender to attack the ball at the near post I have set my Match Prep High with Focus on Team Work I haven’t been using any Training just the default one Team talks I have been leaving to my Assistant Manager Pitch Size is Medium Don’t use Opposition Instructions I am over the moon with this tactic and i really don't think i could make it any better Don't forget to Add me on Facebook, I'm on alot and generally help people out problems http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=723618006 Here is the all important download link. http://www.mediafire.com/?uyq47qbyl4l3yzw http://www.gamefront.com/files/20944398/Mr+Hough+Swarm+Tactic+FM2012+%28Huddersfield%2C+Sep+2011%29.tac http://www29.zippyshare.com/v/89344184/file.html All comments positive/Negative welcome Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 ill try it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Im first !!! Going to test it immediatley !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
15cnbrk12345 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 finally mate we all waiting for this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Your all very welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetlebrox Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks, I'll try it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuukkas Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks alot. Im trying it at the moment and looks promising! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
15cnbrk12345 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 dave i want to ask you this .. should we play left footed winger on right position and right footed on left ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burak700 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 hey dave,thanks for the tactic. what kind of strikers do you suggest?fast,strong etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 What player attributes would you say use for the players??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnbob Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I have Decided to call this Tactic the ‘Swarm’ Tactic because that’s what it does to the opposition swarms there 30 yard area with some of the best attacking play I have ever created in a tactic, Seriously it’s beautiful to watchA lot of you that follow my thread will already know that I have had some problems with the Defence of this particular tactic and the fact that I have ‘Rebuilt’ the tactic in the TC on purpose so I can use the ‘Rigid’ Philosophy, This Philosophy is key to the tactic staying in shape and it being as stable as possible in defence. I have tested this tactic in English Leagues only, With Tottenham Middlesbrough and Lastly Huddersfield, I have had success with all of the Tests going unbeaten in all 3 tests ranging from 18 games to 10 games on each test I would suggest in having fast defenders, I know that’s given but it does help if they can cover ground quickly The 2 midfield positions are key to the tactic being stable I honestly think – You can if you want move the CM’s into the DM position, This will not take anything away from the attacking play but It will stop the CM’s going forward hence making the tactic more stable at the back because of the cover the DM’s will provide, you could have 1 DM and 1 CM or you could just leave it as it is. If I where to give some advice about this though is that look at the opposition if you feel that you might need the extra cover in midfield move both back if your not sure move 1 back or if you think that you will OK and win comfortably leave it as is, The CM’s being left in the position will provide added attacking options for the wingers and strikers but use it wisely, Other good attacking teams can counter that’s why I suggest you asses the situation first. Wingers and Strikers have blown me away, From top players that Tottenham posses to the not so skilled players of Middlesbrough and Huddersfield, They play with the same attacking intent that is a joy to watch but even better to know that I have created this attacking play that seems to go with each team I manage which is brilliant for you as you lot seem to manage all sorts of different teams. I have set up corners with them in swinging into the near post for the left central defender to attack the ball at the near post I have set my Match Prep High with Focus on Team Work I haven’t been using any Training just the default one Team talks I have been leaving to my Assistant Manager Pitch Size is Medium Don’t use Opposition Instructions I am over the moon with this tactic and i really don't think i could make it any better Don't forget to Add me on Facebook, I'm on alot and generally help people out problems http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=723618006 Here is the all important download link. http://www.mediafire.com/?uyq47qbyl4l3yzw All comments positive/Negative welcome Dave upload to another site plz mate im gonna try this with stoke city cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMisBAD2010 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 nice one , i can see where ive been going wrong (if it works really well) but mine is really close to being the same as yours ! i shall test and give feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Michael Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Awesome, thank you Mr. Hough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTC Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Mr. Hough one question. If i choose to use always DM's instead of CM's will it be as succesfull as you describe? Thanks for your hard work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harandil Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 what i understand is that u rebuilt the tactic in the TC, but the tactic is classic, i misunderstood you or? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elando Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Awesome, my girlfriend is gonna hate you Mr Hough. Not gonna have time for her anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 dave i want to ask you this .. should we play left footed winger on right position and right footed on left ? No left foot on left side right foot on right side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 hey dave,thanks for the tactic.what kind of strikers do you suggest?fast,strong etc.? Adebayor.... Filter him in the search engine, He's been a goal machine and also Pavlechnko too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Mr. Hough one question.If i choose to use always DM's instead of CM's will it be as succesfull as you describe? Thanks for your hard work! Yeah absolutly, It just makes the tactic more stable thats all, I prefer 2 DM's to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc92 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 any chance of any filters? thanks for the tactic and your hard btw just added u on facebook aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 you put adebayor on the right or left striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 what i understand is that u rebuilt the tactic in the TC, but the tactic is classic, i misunderstood you or? I already had the tactic as very fluid which is the Philosophy i always use but i realised that my players where going too gung ho no matter what i tried so i decided to make the same formation in the TC but use the Rigid Philosophy and then convert it to classic once i did that, I then changed all the player instructions from the very fluid tactic over to the Rigid one. The Philosophy is the one of the only things you can't change in the classic mode that's why i had to do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 any chance of any filters? thanks for the tactic and your hard btw just added u on facebook aswell Yeah i've got a week off work as holiday so i'll be doing them in that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harandil Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 ahh, thats the way :b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc92 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yeah i've got a week off work as holiday so i'll be doing them in that time. thanks mate much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Boy Angel Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Its only been 2 games so far. Up until now I was using 442 and was on a 4 game losing streak. Just won 4-0 away at Spurs and 6-1 at Bolton. Just watching the games I have noticed a difference already. Now just to stop administration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Boy Angel Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Ill just add that my right winger Albrighton scored 6 of the goals. Im assuming wingers will score a lot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 I have updated the OP with some more download links incase people are having trouble downloading Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Ill just add that my right winger Albrighton scored 6 of the goals. Im assuming wingers will score a lot? Yeah, Wingers Strikers and The left Central defender will score most of the goals with the midfielders adding a few depending on what attributes they have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 hough i have one question...the fast striker is on the right and the big striker on the left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hi Hough, glad to see this out. Thanks for the chat in the previous thread btw, always useful to run ideas past somebody else that knows what they're doing I'm glad to say that our tactics are similar in places and also completely different in others not to mention using a different formation. Really interested to see you using the offside trap - I've hated it in previous FM's and didn't even give it a though in FM12....hows it working for you compared without? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrefc80 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 just started using it with everton midway through season. was using a 4231 that had me unbeaten in 20 so will give yours a go. loved your 11.3 one. do you change anything when playing away against a stronger team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombo Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 *** Edit: Never mind, figured it out hehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomdayer Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 OK you mentioned wingers so im assuming no inverted foot and no cutin in for the wingers. Also as far as strikers the ussual powerhouses with finishing should do the job ? Any specific Left Foot Right Food Setup ? im playing Villa with Bent,sturridge,doumbia up front. u think bent doumbia ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrefc80 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 finding the normal version is too open. giving the opposition too many chances. moving the 2 MC back to DMC has helped greatly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 finding the normal version is too open. giving the opposition too many chances. moving the 2 MC back to DMC has helped greatly Yes i agree, I think it works better as a 4-2-2-2 with 2 DM's rather than 2 CM's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrefc80 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 then i go away to norwich with the 2 DMC and half time 12 shots to my 3. change to MC end of game 14 shots to 13 in my favour, 0-0 though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAnCeR Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hey Dave Really good tactic, I'm Blackburn and was in 18th. Once I started the tactic first few games still loses but once they started getting used to tactic, Im now up to 8th. Got stonger playes coming in Jan Carlton Cole to parter Yakubu, should work a treat. Anyone well done, great tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burak700 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 hough i have one question...the fast striker is on the right and the big striker on the left? also something I would like to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 then i go away to norwich with the 2 DMC and half time 12 shots to my 3. change to MC end of game 14 shots to 13 in my favour, 0-0 though! Thats why i suggested looking at the opposition, If you feel they are stronger than you use the 2 DM positions similar or your stronger use the CM's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 also something I would like to know. More poacher on the left he roams around and looks to get in behind, The right striker is the more creative of the 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Dave, do you get many goals from MC position esp more attacking one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Dave, do you get many goals from MC position esp more attacking one? Yeah but it all depends on the players ability and attributes, If you have a MC that has good long shots finishing first touch technique then he will probably have a few shots but if you don't then it's unlikely really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperBlade Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I have tested this formation over the same 5 games with blackburn. I have tested it with 2 dmc, 1 dmc, and 2 mc. My conclusion has to that it is a good formation but if people are expecting this to be the plug and play success of previous mr Hough tactics will find that this formation is definitively not as good as those in previous FM's there are currently better plug and play formations out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugboat Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 seems an excellent tactic,ive gone 8 games unbeaten on my leeds save,thanks to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I have tested this formation over the same 5 games with blackburn. I have tested it with 2 dmc, 1 dmc, and 2 mc. My conclusion has to that it is a good formation but if people are expecting this to be the plug and play success of previous mr Hough tactics will find that this formation is definitively not as good as those in previous FM's there are currently better plug and play formations out there. Hi viper wich formations are better than this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperBlade Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 So far minimal Fuss, The Ordinary tactic & the lower league tactic of the tactics i have used on this forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Choke Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 i love your tactics you rule Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hough can you suggest an example of the type of player you played in the left and right striker positions? I was thinking maybe cavani on the left tevez on the right? Also im guessing you took inspiration from your tombstone piledriver tactic? as the familiarity levels barely changed for me and some of the settings look similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickizzard Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 im using cavani on the right and he has been banging goals in and tevez on the left and he is doing ok to be fair.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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