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  1. this looks very interesting is there an wizard version of this up somewhere? or is it only sliders?
  2. So funny how an out of the blue fm12 tactic is great in fm13 1.3 patch when every one has difficulty making tactics, LMAO Test Save 24 W 2 D 1 L so far Prem, Chelsea.
  3. HOly... lmao i downloaded the tactic to check it out and tell the feedback thinking this was new because it was bumped and so low post count just realized it was from 11, well for what is may count winning most matches with 3 goal diff with so far 7 matches 7 wins. Although with a pretty high caliber squad.
  4. Dave i know i said above i wont continue on this, but i just had to add something i agree with you as far as the TC goes, but dont you think that there was a very great feeling when you hit that sweet spot after weeks on a tactic like you just discovered a new continent? instead now its more like Ok i have this team, and ill do this playstyle , if it doesnt work ill take off that shout maybe use that OI and hope for the best. And of course best is your team slightly overachieving
  5. Hey m8 ill give this a try. Dont believe the rumours the ME is not perfect, SI is just trying to simplify things and dumb them down to just getting average results, results are easy to get with the TC + OI + Shouts but i find it to be a deeply annoying method. I feel more like a basketball couch calling for 10 timeouts than a football coach, besides what was i doing for that entire week if not preping them for this match :/ anyways ill start a new save im thinking maybe sundersland and post results after a season or 2
  6. I like how we are all willfully ignoring the fact that the ME has tons of faceplanting obvious bugs/exploits. This will be my last post on this subject since we are not really going anywhere and your a mod and im not but for some of us [Maybe a minority i dont know] it is not about results, i get those, its about the simple fact that earlier i could fine tune my players away from stupid behavior and how i cant. And by the way i used TC before [with advanced Instructions] and i use TC now [with advanced instructions for no long shots and some custom shouts] Its not the wizard thats my problem, heck i like the wizard and its a great tool to anybody that didnt understand slider assembly to enjoy the game. Its the constant nonsensical behavior that annoys me and since i cannot do 1 because staring at a wall doesnt work and that thing called Fifa Manager is a joke for old age, 2 because it just feels wrong to me, and neither 3 or 4 seems to fix my issue im just going to shut up and enjoy the moments i can while hoping that SI either reads the relatively high amount of complaints or data mines and realizes that 4 own goals every week is not a normal that you should be going for. To close my apologies to Mr Hough for completely getting off topic. And to anyone else who was here to read about a specific tactic and instead has had to put up with irrelevant things.
  7. I understand, all i was saying is micromanaging those little 3d suckers can be fun Oh well, old horse got to learn new tricks at some point or its got to be put down so out the west goes Old micromanager, IN from the east comes new stress riddled guy screaming from the PC imagining he is Mourinho
  8. Ah yes FML how i miss that game I really wish SI could find a formula to make it work :/
  9. Cleon/WWfan I feel like this is a very circular argument. I completely understand your point. Exploiting tactics use match engine bugs to achieve unrealistic results = bad. No bugs no exploiting tactics, awsome. Personally i have no problem with creating tactics from the wizard but please do not try to tell me this is more "realistic football" in essence its more like i provide rough guidelines to my players and hope they listen to me. Results are not my problem, Shouts + Wizard allows you to get them, as long as you do them team specific which is great and all. "All SI have done is fix flaws..." So you mean that Pique receiving the ball and just staring at it within area without being pressured [initially] and then losing the ball and me being scored on, is how normal football plays out? Or maybe i have missed a shout that says play like a normal professional world class athlete? Ball bouncing of the FACE of a goalkeeper into the goal? Tons of OG being constantly scored, i mean granted i dont watch prem daily, but in the greek league we have maybe 1-2 ogs a year. In this game i get 1-2og a match day, i even saw David Luiz bicycle kick an own goal in. You know i could go on and on and all i have in my disposal to counter this instances ? Shouts. Its not the results that matter, its that it feels like i would get the same results if i just Burned incense in front of my pc, the wizard has removed any sort of self sattisfaction out of understanding what made the AI tick and countering it. SI did not give us a better AI that is simply not upheld by the facts here, they gave us a simplified method of creating tactics that forces our team to play by the same restrictions that apply to the AI. As i stated before: The AI is not smarter, Our players became dumber. As far as plug and play goes not all of them relied on bugs, obviously the stupendously overachieving ones did and there is certain amounts of fun to be had in cracking the system and winning the prem with a low team but i have no issue with them fixing the exploits by making the AI harder, but simply said the exploits are still there just harder to make your team reach them. Just 1 mans opinion of course so im probably completely wrong who knows
  10. I dont know how far thats true, i think their intest was to stop the need to wait for a super tactic by making everyone just chucking together a decent enough tactic with the TC which would achieve roughly ballanced results, instead of playing with sliders or waiting on fuss/hough etc etc etc.
  11. Oh how i wish your words come true. I am the first to agree that the lack of exploits is a welcome sight, i am still unsure how the silly behavior of AI counts as anything mentioned above, i can list events and events One thing i will say is that it is still a great game worthy of playing.
  12. After masters of tactics such as Mr Hough , Cleo, wwfan and Fuss have said their say i can only add and agree. But since everyone seems to have an opinion these days might as well offer one up IMHO FM13 has failed in each success. To put it simply i think they managed to do what most of us have been asking for a long time, an unexploit-able ME but to do it in the wrong way. Instead of simply giving us an AI that is capable of adapting to "plug and play" super tactics to counter the strategies employed by most of these so called super tactics, they decided to provide us an with ME that is simplified to the point of tearing eyes out. As of right now, the most effective tactic i have used with any team [average results based] is a simple 451 with 3 box to box mids 2 wide mids a flat four at the back and 1 poacher chasing the ball, You might or might not be aware that this is a very simple formation used throughout most of the lower teams in Greece, and i suspect elsewhere in Europe that demands nothing of my players other than running a lot and passing and with the right OI i have managed to come to some great results. Of course the results are not the get reading and win the prem type, they are get reading and come in 6 type then come in 5 then come in 3rd. So a lot more realistic but it somehow fails to sattisfy. Before this game i used to work hard on a tactic and if the tactic was brilliant enough it allowed you to overachieve tremendously. Obviously this is much harder which is nice in a way, but its only harder because it feels like the they dumbed down my own player "AI" control instead of boosting the AI's tactic making ability. Currently it just seems that if i just tell my players go out there and run i will see a mix of overachieving FB/WB's a lot of runing down the sides. Some of the worst defending choices in the world including regularly droping dead like a fish to dive header the ball away while on defense [which looks ridiculous as an animation] Or just siting there with the ball in the area pondering philosophical thoughts. Midfielders that are generally not tightly marked and a striker that might or might not get a chance to score entirely depending on whether the defenders ate their wheaties in the morning. I have gone through over 30 tactics toying with sliders and the results are pretty much the same, nothing really changes that drastically from sliders anymore, it feels like we had these sharp tools at our disposal and now we are only allowed this blunt bulky thing with hard caps placed on either side to keep us in the straight and narrow. Its not that the engine is unexploitable, it just looks like they nerfed our ability to reach those specialized instructions to allow us to exploit it, at the same time nerfing our ability to make great tactics with it. The engine itself is simple if you just want average or decent results, through any defensive counterattacking formation in the TC [451/442/352] High Closing down, some man marking, some zonal marking [up Front and Wings] Tight marking if you have to, and you will be ok no matter what else. But there is no spark there is no brilliance there, and its getting tiring. Dont get me wrong, i love this game its just has lost some of that lust that we got when we looked inside the guts of the machine and found out how to make it tick, now all i can/have to do is through together a formation in the TC and buy better players.
  13. Dave they said that a hotfix for this "ahem" so called ME is coming out soon. If they dont, i simply dont see a reason to play a game that is so broken. Your tactic is great m8 but as mentioned in my other post you cant actually beat up the ME
  14. Dave i have a question i followed the suggestion of poster Eple Post#282 [Props for advice m8] and changed supply to feet and cavani/falcao have become beasts receiving the ball even in those situations where the box gets overloaded and previously we would just wait for that longshot or such. Is it possible that the Run On command made players not pass to striker unless he had space to move? I dont know if it has worked for anyone else, but its worth a try. Falcao is absolute stormer btw even better than Cavani, although both good. Sold mata for 45 million and never regretted it.
  15. I know so frustrating. 3rd season in with Chelsea lost to MIdlesborough in FA cup first round because of 3 hicups of the engine that led to me being scored 3 times.... damn ridiculous but oh well got to deal with it.
  16. Not that it means much but in your place i would off: Mertesacker/Sagna completely. Get somebody thats faster in Mertes place more offensive in Sagnas place, somebody with 14 everywher will be better than just 18 in ace pace tackling imho. ALso Arteta/Wilshere is too soft of a mid. I would put cazorla in the mid bring up Wilshere and find somebody more Box2Box or BWM oriented to round up that midfield. Arteta could go in and revolve with Cazorla. I dont remember positions but couldnt u also put Podolski AMC and Giroud Striker? Def Positioning and let the tactic gel i guess would be stating the obvious. Frankly not that any of this might be of great assistance if your team gets in one of those bad romps. You know how the game can be. All in all good luck m8,
  17. In my experience? Nothing i just sub in fresh mid/def/wb or any yellow cards and pray to the ME gods.
  18. Never tried it, dont know if dave or someone else has. but the way i see it. This is a modern counter attacking tactic so i would not.
  19. The only real goals i concede anymore on a regular basis are set pieces so as trepid suggestion goes Def Set Pieces might work good, i just find that def positioning helps and with Cech at the back i just take the goals scored in stride and score more.
  20. Oscar i put eitehr as MCR or MCL and he has been perfectly fine there. He also plays good at AMC when needed, but hazzard is an absolute beast in that place. Mata i have been ambivalent with, doesnt do wonders at AMC and as mentioned ST position is allready a shallow role so i just use him to plug inadequacies based on fitness on either place. But if a good offer came in id sell him.
  21. Ok 2 seasons in with Chelsea im kinda new in the posting thing for the forum so i dont yet know how to post pictures. First season Won Prem, FA cup lost to Arsenal in the capital cup, lost in CL [Mainly because bad winter transfers and such]. In league only had 2 losses 1 to Man City away and 1 to Tottenham away. Second Season: Won everything, literally everything i had a part in. Finished the league with 2 draws and 1 loss. [Damn you MAN CITY] A few tips that i found have been useful: Defensive Positioning seems to work best in match prep i keep it at 1 point before max. For two reasons, A] i care more about results than the training of my youth squad, and B i never saw it really hurt anybody. I also tend to have less "Training Injuries" while my players don't train so much. As long as i dont see any down arrows i dont mind. OI's: While not necessary needed having your center DC close and tight man mark that lone striker the AI likes to use and your wingbacks on their wingers [if they have any] And assuming of course they have the speed/workrate/stamina/anticipation to do so will ensure you almost always keep a 0 at the back. Also i find that if your wing backs have decent finishing(heading helps also and positioning is crucial), and can use both feet to a decent degree they can become really tremendous goalscorers. Azplicueta and Baines both were in the top 10 goalscorers of the prem league both years. I am not suggesting you use opposite footed wing backs like Left Footed on the right because that makes them awkward at playing by the line, just try to find people decent with both feet. Not easy i know. Midfield: Rounded out midfielders than can tackle/pass/shoot to a decent degree 14/15 have been best for me. De Rossi is great as a center MC but a bit slow so if you use someone with him get 2 fast people there. Speed is essential because those midfielders play both as AMCs and DMs going from the opponents third to your third constantly, and if they dally too long then you might find yourself open to a counterattack. Striker: Cavani although an amazing striker i feel is wasted in this formation. The striker here [in my limited experience] is more of a DLF playing 1-2s with the AMC [in this case Eden Hazzard] and pulling defenders on him so the mid or the wb or the amc/mid can get the shot in and score. I know its a little frustrating the most expensive player on the field to not be getting all the fame, but results are still results. Team talks i dont bother i find them pointless in FM13 i just cant understand them so i just leave them on my Ass Man. If you find yourself lacking speed and being vulnerable to that 1 man on the counterattack, try dropping the 3 midfielders to DM position. It worked for me, although you need to make sure your striker up top is fast, because you effectively ensure that you will not be pushing hard much, just breaking the offside trap. Also Dave, i noticed your corner instruction is on short, but most of the time, they end up doing near/far. I dont know if you knew this and it was intentional or not. Either way i found that if you do 6 yard you end up scoring a lot more. Nowhere near old bug levels just a lot more. Also i cannot stress how slow to gel this tactic is and how important is that you wait until it gels fully. Mine did not jell until almost November [put it in right after community shield]. And as always as Dave said those stats matter a tremendous amount go make filters out of them and give it a season to gel you will see the turn around. ****** P.S. No matter what the tactic does, you cannot and will not be able to go against this piece of **** engine when it decides it wants to bug and get you scored on. Most of the times i got scored on was because my WB got a pass and sat there looking at the ball wondering what to do with it, until it was stolen ... you cant fault Dave for SI's inability to create a good engine from release. Only mentioning it because a lot of people have complained, this tactic is as excellent to results oriented approach as you can get. It is not the definition of beautiful football but it is definitely the winning titles style. My hat of to you Dave for another amazing creation. Good luck on your 2 striker/ winger formations m8. Hope they are as good or better than this one since your usually capable of outdoing yourself. Msg me if you need any early testing done.
  22. ouch i can feel the pain let me know how the deeper line works, im just thinking it will allow more longshots for the opposition. i have dropped Terry in order to have Cahil Ivanovich and Romeou for chelsea. Terry too slow and Luiz had no concept of posititioning. Of course sometimes they still catch you with that longball but you just hope your goalie stops it i guess Good Luck m8
  23. Def Positioning, along with a quick Center Defender should do the trick. Pace is important on your D line obviously and positioning is crucial along with anticipation.
  24. Ok i now have about 30 [almost a season will post pics when finished] results with chelsea and this tactic. It has been fully gelled. Here is my feedback, i hope it helps you out dave in your quest to greatness. Truth be told this is an amazing tactic. The only time it falls short is when it comes in direct conflict with the ME blessed goalkeepers who block 5-6-7 shots in a row using bicycle kicks or diving headers, or my favorite which is the blocking shots with the tip of their foot while they do an MMA inspired sweeping kick ;0 Anyways. What has been crucial for me is Match Prep: Defensive Position. I tried everything out, attacking movement, set pieces, teamwork etc etc. Attacking movement gave me an insane number of shots sometimes around 40-60 a game. All the time from the usual shootout that takes place in the area but without any aspiring results translating in goals. On the other hand since you have 8 players in that area your back 3 are vulnerable to a counterattack [especially considering the defensive AI] Defensive position alleviates that issue and also maintains the pressure on the enemy third. I find this to have been a tremendous help. Also you will notice [At least for me] that without that extra prep the middle defender was ussually anxious or nervous without any reason, irrelevant of who the player was. So Match Prep: Def Pos Also make sure your mid has some decent long shots, dont expect the majority of your goals to come from your striker unless you have a small team and you counter a lot, your wingbacks are really really threatening and with some nice stats they can dish out heavy punishment [They usually play as amazing inside forwards] My most important advice if you dont put it in the preseason give it at least 20 games. the 3 defender formations Width is hard for your team to learn mid season so be patient. Again Dave: Gorgeous tactic i mostly win 4-1 and 5-2 but at least for me Def Positioning was a tremendous help in raising my score just because of that added pressure.
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