ady944 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 wijnand, just use the original tactic and low the closing down on all defenders and the 2 mids to own half instead of whole pitch, my best heading centre back on the right side he should get you 10 to 15 goals a season. my best attacking centre mid on the left side but he still needs to know how to defend so a lazy amc wouldn't work i us chris cohen or enzo maresca in this position but it is one area i could do with a class midfielder. as tatox said fastest most clinical striker on the right and a creative amc/fc on the left as he will get loads of assists..... This is what i have found anyway it might differ from team to team do you agree with this tatox? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Fantastic tactic! Produces the best attacking football I have seen so far in this year's version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelahm Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 This tactic is just to awsome.. For 2 seasons with Real Madrid now i havnt lost a single game and last season ronaldo scorede 86 goals in all competitons and higuain 75. Thats pretty decent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Do you use this tactic as it is against big teams or when you need to defend? As Aston Villa (granted, I don't have good players but I managed to win the premier league with my own normal 4-4-2 tactic), I lost 2 out of 5 games in the new season: 4-0 away at Barcelona and 4-1 home against Sunderland after one man was sent off. I played the whole preseason with this tactic and the players are by now quite familiar with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 wijnand, just use the original tactic and low the closing down on all defenders and the 2 mids to own half instead of whole pitch, my best heading centre back on the right side he should get you 10 to 15 goals a season.my best attacking centre mid on the left side but he still needs to know how to defend so a lazy amc wouldn't work i us chris cohen or enzo maresca in this position but it is one area i could do with a class midfielder. as tatox said fastest most clinical striker on the right and a creative amc/fc on the left as he will get loads of assists..... This is what i have found anyway it might differ from team to team do you agree with this tatox? yes ady... ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanzou Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 should i put more offensive ( i.e Xabi Alonso / Xavi / Iniesta ) or defensive ( Sami Khedira / Michael Essien ) in MC's ? or both ?? and also the Fullback ... offensive or defensive ?? thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mischievous Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 FB: since it must cover the entire external zone: a) physical qualities, especially speed, b) quality techniques such as cross, marking, steps b) mental qualities like without the ball, position, team play. I'm sorry, but what do you mean with STEPS? Thanks, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Tatox, Ady944, Any training schedule? And what about the pitchsize? always MAX? because I manage a team with a field that can be 114 meters long and 70 meters wide..... have to choose that pitch size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose54 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 This tactic is so fun, just won 6-3 away vs Manchester City as West ham, first season, followed up by a 5-3 home win over Arsenal. Happy times! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady944 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Tatox, Ady944,Any training schedule? And what about the pitchsize? always MAX? because I manage a team with a field that can be 114 meters long and 70 meters wide..... have to choose that pitch size? i use ravers training which i find the best upto now, but stats don't rocket up like on 2010! i have used the max size pitch but mine only goes upto 110 x 68, hope that helps 1st game of new season just beat birmingham 7-0! i will get some screens posted up of new squad and latest results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahl Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Once again, i cant say how grateful i am, that this tactic was made. Works like a dream Second season, seeded 13 out of 14, with only a few reinforcements i have beaten almost all the top teams (draw with Vejle). In the cup i got thrown out in the second round, playing with the reserves, but the most interesting thing is that i in all the matches have won the shot-statistics. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady944 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady944 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady944 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Latest fixtures / results - the 2 draws in friendlys were played with my under 18 squad to see how they faired! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I can't say I have the same experience as you guys. I lost another game: 4-2 against Sunderland. Against big teams that dominate possession or pacey forward lines (e.g. S'land's Bent-Gyan), I suffer a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahl Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I can't say I have the same experience as you guys. I lost another game: 4-2 against Sunderland. Against big teams that dominate possession or pacey forward lines (e.g. S'land's Bent-Gyan), I suffer a lot. Which team do you play with? And you have to accept that strange/big defeats will happen with this tactic, or at least until you are a top class team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Aston Villa. I don't think my side can be termed top class but I came 2nd in the first season and 1st in the second, so I did well using my 'normal' tactic (basically a normal 4-4-2 with mentality adjusted according to match difficulty). I switched to this tactic as the comments and screenshots in here got me really curious but I've already lost 4 matches from 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahl Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Strange, and kinda bad if you came from a victorious season. Can i see your team, i could be that your players doesn't match to the system, and are you playing like crap in the games you are losing, or are the opponent just clinical when they finish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Sure. I'll upload some screenies when I return home from work. Basically the formation is this: -------------------------------------Akinfeev---------------------------------------- M.Richards/K.Walker------Cuellar-----Dunne/Clark-----Warnock/Digne -----------------------Rodwell/Petrov----Delph/Bannan---------------------- A.Young/Albrighton-------------------------------------Downing/A.Johnson ---------------Agbonlahor/Delfuoneso---Kalinic/Kadlec---------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-RELIGION Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 My result with As Roma where a bit mixed, draws and defeats, now i have tried to change the defenders pressing and lets see if it works... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahl Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The second season is now over, and it went fantastic. Won the league with one game left, and then decided to play with reserves. 6-5 i lost to Lyngby, who secured promotion on that result (2 red cards to them and still my defense ****ed it up, Lyngby were down 5-4 with 10 min left My team was seeded 13 out of 14, and was no where near to have the squad to be challenging some of the better teams, but now i won the league and is looking forward to win the best league in the next season Screen of the league Screen of my best player - says all about how good this tactic are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-RELIGION Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Was sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattijr Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 could you put on opening post what attributes are need for each position please I wonder also... Can somebody give me more specific than this: After showing a little something to tell you a little step ', role by role, what kind of players are used to this tactic: GK: the best could find. FB: since it must cover the entire external zone: a) physical qualities, especially speed, b) quality techniques such as cross, marking, steps b) mental qualities like without the ball, position, team play. CB: best you could buy MC: I used the median with good feet and / or central midfielders achieving excellent results. Career test to man utd I used Fletcher and Carrick (I will show you the statistics) WGS: shift the balance are crucial. They must be fast, must be able to cross and dribble, must be able to play as a team. Do not need finalizing. Must be of the wings as well, not adapted attackers, the game would be affected to the extent that they no longer play for the team but would seek a personal solution FR:will be your finalizer, then used the usual values and attributes tokeep under control . I invite you to consider, however, particularly the physical values. FS:will be a bit 'finalizer, a little' finisher, so do not count as the finalization (15 already is fine) but what will count a lot: A) technical quality: passes, first game B) mental qualities: teamwork Without the ball, intuition and even a bit of imagination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbes Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 with better game in defense this tactic would be perfect . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djeddiehobin Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 TATOX i just want to thank you for an AMAZING tactic, as always i started with my home team Blackburn Rovers, sold a couple of players and signed a couple of players, im now still in my first season and in january and we are 3rd in the premier league and with speculation that barcelona are goin to try and get me at the end of the season and also my leading goalscorer is being closely watched by ac milan he also loves this tactic which it states in his personal info. I love this tactic and hope u create one similar for the new patch when its released. If you would like to see some screenshots of my success just let me kno and i will post them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 does the defensive version score less goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndebergerac Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 does the defensive version score less goals? I'm using the original version with some defensive tweaks of my own, goals are still flowing in whilst I'm defending very well. I've conceded 7 goals in 14 games over-all including pre-season, 3 in one game, so only 4 in the other 13 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bram09 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 can you upload your tweaks mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bram09 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 can you post your tweaks mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbers Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I lowered the mentality of the back four and two central midfielders. lowered defensive line and changed 'play offside' to 'counter attack' results below: Tactic download: http://www.mediafire.com/?dc8fhay38coii23 TATOX - thankyou so much for this tactic it is the best I have seen on fm'11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panosrodo Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 dibbers what pitch size ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza56 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have tested the original tactic over a complete season and was happy with the overall result: Played 70 games (including pre-season friendlies) Won 52 Drew 14 Lost 4 Goals scored 176 Goals Against 39 I played Darren Bent as the right sided striker and he scored 47 goals in 52 games So imo its a great tactic and would like to thank Tatox for all his hard work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnop Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I spent the beta version, more defensive, to someone who has offered to test it ... let's see 'how she responds Tatox tu sei chiami Del Neri del cognome? This tactic very much looks like the classic Del Neri tactic he used when he managed Cheivo 7-8years ago in their first season in the Serie A. With Luciano and Manfredini on the wings Corini in the middle and the two attackers Corradi and the other. Tatox can you please test this tactic with Juve Midfielders: Felipe Melo - Aquilani Pepe and Krasic wingers in attack Quagriella (Iaquinta) and Amauri (Del Piero) Getting such impressive results with Man United is not hard it is another question with Juve..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 at sutnop, this tactic would be cheating with juve, the cms are perfect for it the wingers pure class for it and it uses creative/ poacher combo, the defence might be a bit iffy but the pure amazing attack on this tactic makes up for it, i thrashed my mate who was man u and im liverpool 7-3 in the champs league final, 3rd season, just thrashed him again 4-1 in the charity shield, this tactic is amazing, i havnt tried with weak teams and that dont interest me, if you want pure action, goals, goals, and more goals this tactic has your name on it lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnop Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 at sutnop, this tactic would be cheating with juve, the cms are perfect for it the wingers pure class for it and it uses creative/ poacher combo, the defence might be a bit iffy but the pure amazing attack on this tactic makes up for it, i thrashed my mate who was man u and im liverpool 7-3 in the champs league final, 3rd season, just thrashed him again 4-1 in the charity shield, this tactic is amazing, i havnt tried with weak teams and that dont interest me, if you want pure action, goals, goals, and more goals this tactic has your name on it lol Hmmm in previous games I noticed that when playing in Italy with Palermo/Fiorentina (FM2008) my tactics worked less well then in the EPL because in ITaly the teams try to break/destroy your tactic more often. Since TaxTok is Italian I think it would be only good for Italy's best historic side ever. Also since his tactic is very similar too a lot of Del Neri tactics I would like to see how it would hold up in a Del Neri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 let me put it like this lol, if this tactic was in real life ilke it is on here, juve would be league champs already lol, i used to follow italian football alot when it was on channel four but not so much now, milan are my italian team tho you from the 90's you can understand why, good to see them do so well again, oh and the defence will be good because i forgot about chiellini, with this tactic you want buffon back, standard back four, marchisio rcm, aqua lcm, krasic rw, usual winger lw, up front you want your pure pace out and out scorer on the right and king del piero players type on the left, tho you could prob play anyone and kick butt lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 look @ this :D:D what are the main attributes for the mids? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'm thinking in Milan with this tactic. Have great player for MC positions. Great Wingers, and a great attack force. Just waiting for this transfer season to start using it. I'm using with Arsenal and it works great for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 i think i seen somewhere both defensive tho the one on the left more attacking of the two, if that makes sense, tho i seen someone playing with city and played james milner on the right, so that messes that up lol, maybe sutnop can clarify the atts from the opening post, or any italian please, if no one has by supv at work is italian, i'll see at work tonight if he can make sense or anyone?????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 milan should rule the world with this, got the perfect team for this, good luck destroying everyone lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Playing as Arsenal. Just had two great results: Chelsea 1 - Arsenal 3 Arsenal 5 - Man Utd 0 - I had 19 shots, they had only 4. Currently first on premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnop Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Can Someone a) Post the tactic with the modded defense that the Notthm FOREST guy is using and the Danish Guy is using I.E. A good version with the tweaks. b) Try this tactic out with Juventus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I lowered the mentality of the back four and two central midfielders. lowered defensive line and changed 'play offside' to 'counter attack'results below: Tactic download: http://www.mediafire.com/?dc8fhay38coii23 TATOX - thankyou so much for this tactic it is the best I have seen on fm'11. Can Someone a) Post the tactic with the modded defense that the Notthm FOREST guy is using and the Danish Guy is using I.E. A good version with the tweaks. b) Try this tactic out with Juventus A. That's a very good version with tweaks. B. Try it out yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 I lowered the mentality of the back four and two central midfielders. lowered defensive line and changed 'play offside' to 'counter attack'results below: Tactic download: http://www.mediafire.com/?dc8fhay38coii23 TATOX - thankyou so much for this tactic it is the best I have seen on fm'11. i'm testing it and your tweaks seems to be good for a team like Parma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I'm using the original version with some defensive tweaks of my own, goals are still flowing in whilst I'm defending very well. I've conceded 7 goals in 14 games over-all including pre-season, 3 in one game, so only 4 in the other 13 games. can you put in download your tweaked tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 hi find theses settings for your gk Here help the defenders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiept Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 hi find theses settings for your gk Here help the defenders 4 sure it will help but those r setting 4 a sweeper keeper. You´ll need a keeper strong in decisions, creativity and pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnop Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 i'm testing it and your tweaks seems to be good for a team like Parma Why don't you try it with Juve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixta79 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Why don't you try it with Juve? Why are you obsessed with trying it with juve??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnop Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Why are you obsessed with trying it with juve??? Because I am suffering to see them hurting in this period in time. I can't understand why anyone who is a gamer can not test it. Including Tatox I've had the game for 1month soon and I've only managed to play until 1Septer2010 during my first save. I don't have the time or the hours to test it out properly. And I heard this one guy saying it would be perfect for Juve but then he says it would be perfect for Milan and Milan and Juve have to completley different playing styles and players....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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