craigy18181 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hi Guys, Was reading the Daily Record today online and I notcied that Nacho Novo has said he would be willing to play for Scotland if the SFA were to ask him. He regards Scotland as home now after being here for 8 years apparently. Personally I am not a massive fan of this, the article then went on to mention that Fabio Capello is apparently looking at Almunia of Arsenal and Arteta of Everton for England. You don't see this in FM much, should it be easier to convince players to play for another country in FM if they have not been capped at full level? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStory Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well it doesn't happen very often in real life to be honest with you so it's not surprising that we don't see it in the game. Would be a nice touch though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 In one of the old CM series i got kieran Richardson and paddy kenny to play or Rep of Ireland. i know paddy kenny is an irish international now but his 1st nationality was english at the time! never managed international side since tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 these things usually are for the media they happen so rare and then trouble arouses like there was a romanian born player called Miriuta, who never featured in he's home country's side, but at the age of 30 he gained hungarian nationality and decided he will play for the hungarian national side (he was playing for cottbus at the time being ) he played arround 10 games (or so i can't recall the exact number) the interesting thing was the nation who was never interested in him and let me tell you he wouldn't had a chance in the romanian national side at that time, thought of him as a traitor of he's country the worst part is he had to move he's mother from romania to hungary because some nationalist threatened her well i think this explains why it doesn't happen so often Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Only really happens in exceptional cases, and doubt very much it will happen for the two spaniards in question, maybe in other countries where the boundaries and feelings are not those like us english, who prefer to stick with proper english players. Only major one i can think of is Deco, and he even had the cheek to make his debut against his country of birth Brazil, and score the winning goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baf Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I'm Man Utd & Nigeria boss, I cant get Aliah Yussef to play for the Nigeria side because he's decided he wants to play for the Ukraine although he's been capped at Under-21 level for Nigeria! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseplluissans Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There's lots of examples there: Senna and Pernia for Spain, Eduardo for Croatia, Mehmet Aurelio for Turkey Mauro Camoranesi for Italy, Higuain for France etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmsteve Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 freddy dos santos for tunisia, alex(i think?) for japan, and what about tony cascarino for ireland (pretty sure it was him who had absolutely nothing to do with ireland at all) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There's lots of examples there: Senna and Pernia for Spain, Eduardo for Croatia, Mehmet Aurelio for Turkey Mauro Camoranesi for Italy, Higuain for France etc. yes but they had obvious reasons like they lived in that country many years or they simply couldn't fit in their original nationality's side but in the game they don't really realize this, and if there would be a code for such thing many players would chose other countries to play for rather then their own just because they weren't selected a few times (in my opinion) back to the original , you can lure players to take up nationality other then their own and play for the country like in fm 06 i took Ze Roberto (currently Bayern ) and called him up for italy and went to won the world cup him being my best player scoring twice in the final against .... wait for it (drums ...)....Brazil of course, now how cool is that :D (isn't higuain argentinian???) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmsteve Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 argentinian -italian iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowes Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 yes but they had obvious reasons like they lived in that country many years or they simply couldn't fit in their original nationality's side I diagree. I feel that Players should only be allowed to play for countries if the have a family connection, i.e. Dad was say Welsh and mother was a Scot (plus grandparents) - then they should be the only countries they can represent. Far too much consideration given to workaround solutions to get a particular player to play for other countries. Where the player resides and for how long should be immaterial. If a foreign player is given say, a English nationality, then only his son would be eligable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I diagree. I feel that Players should only be allowed to play for countries if the have a family connection, i.e. Dad was say Welsh and mother was a Scot (plus grandparents) - then they should be the only countries they can represent.Far too much consideration given to workaround solutions to get a particular player to play for other countries. Where the player resides and for how long should be immaterial. If a foreign player is given say, a English nationality, then only his son would be eligable. in some cases it works this way players choose nationalities after their mother father or grandparents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsy1982 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Wasn't Patrick Viera from Senegal but grew up in France thus making him eligeble for the French national side. John Sheriden (formaly R of I international) was born in Manchester. Clinton Morrison (current Rof I iternational) is from London. My personal opinion with regards to the two Spanish players playing for England, is that if they WANT to, let them. They will only get in the side if they are good enough and it will only benifit the national side in the long run (in terms of success). I don't think it will happen though as there was enough controversy after the first time we employed a foreign manager, imagine the uproar if Arteta put on the England number 7 shirt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy38 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 You don't see this in FM much Have you ever done a few years and checked out the Belgium side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_Gray Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well it is happening with 2 players atm Nachno Novos has agreed to play for scotlaand and arsanal goal keep almunium or wat ever he is called get a british passport next year and wants to play for england !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Perrotta for Italy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Eduardo, born in brasil, plays for croatia. There are a few more brasilians in Dinamo Zagreb that have gained croatian citizenship and can play for Croatian NT (but probably won't because we don't need them, although Etto might come in handy as RB). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apnelson Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I can't remember the names of all the players but there are tons of other Brazilian born players that play for other Nation teams A few include:- Portugal Spain Poland Croatia Japan Turkey Germany have 2 Polish born players Turkey have 2 German born players France had a number of forgieners in there 1998 world cup winning side Kompany and the Mpenza brothers are from Congo and Felliani is from Morocco all play for Belgium Bosingwa is from Congo and plays for Portugal Freddy Adu born in Ghana plays for USA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Jonathan de Guzman is a Canadian-born playing for the Dutch youth-sides and in a few years probably playing for the NT. Next to him there are some players of Moroccan descent playing for Holland (Boulahrouz, Afellay, Aissati). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGOD Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hargreaves, Mcgeady, Kazim-Richards, Deco, Thuram, Evra etc. All play(ed) for countries different to that of their birth. There are so many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manumoss Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Kazim-Richards was born in east london and lived here his whole life but because his mum is half turkish he was eligible to play for turkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullcitytigers Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Perrotta for Italy? Ah yes, from England isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolgasm Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 James McCarthy recently chose Ireland over Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manumoss Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Ah yes, from England isn't he? He was born in England but both his parents are Italian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beneamata Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Sorry if I'm missing smething - isn't the OP talking about players who have played in a country for long enough to gain citizenship, rather than just having dual nationality like the players getting mentioned here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Arteta for England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I support Everton BTW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Also I remember reading about a player who was born in international waters and could play for any nation he wanted. Cant for the life of me remember his name though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Owen Hargreaves.... ugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagine Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I once brought in a Brazilian called Pedro in to the English national team in FM08 after he became eligible to play for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 apparently Owen Hargreaves is a German Canadian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Ah yes, from England isn't he? He is indeed but one of his parents (maybe both) are Italian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serdar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Kazim-Richards was born in east london and lived here his whole life but because his mum is half turkish he was eligible to play for turkey Richards can hardly speak Turkish and still made to National team. I recently read that, He is an Arsenal fan and because of that his coach did not let him play against Arsenal in CL 3 days ago. His team Fenerbahce still got served with 5-2 anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I can't remember the names of all the players butthere are tons of other Brazilian born players that play for other Nation teams A few include:- Portugal Spain Poland Croatia Japan Turkey Germany have 2 Polish born players Turkey have 2 German born players France had a number of forgieners in there 1998 world cup winning side Kompany and the Mpenza brothers are from Congo and Felliani is from Morocco all play for Belgium Bosingwa is from Congo and plays for Portugal Freddy Adu born in Ghana plays for USA Croatia has more players born outside of croatia than those that are born in croatia. But they all (except eduardo) had croatian parents or croatian 2nd nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsportsfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 this has killed Canada Hargreaves and De Guzman, can't blame them though, the CSA are mental. Sorry for going OT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Owen Hargreaves! Turned his back on Canada!!! I personally hate him... de Guzman on the Dutch team. Too bad he won't join his brother on the Canadian national team... Honesty, with the Canadian Soccer Association in turmoil, I don't blame de Guzman... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawaad Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Richards can hardly speak Turkish and still made to National team. I recently read that, He is an Arsenal fan and because of that his coach did not let him play against Arsenal in CL 3 days ago. His team Fenerbahce still got served with 5-2 anyways. He is only eligible for Turkey, because his mum half Turkish Cypriot, nothing actually to do with mainland Turkey. I think they are considered citizens of turkey rather than cyprus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 It is possible in FM to get those with citizenship to change to a nationality. It may be because I swapped American Samoa with Hong Kong, but some DRL/DM gained Samoan citizenship and I picked him cos I needed a DM. Anyway, Hargreaves has English/Welsh parents and was born in Canada. He played for Wales U21 and when he chose England he was about a year away from German citizenship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
odsum25 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Giusseppe Rossi...born in and grew up in the US to Italian parents, now plays for Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Giusseppe Rossi...born in and grew up in the US to Italian parents, now plays for Italy. This is true, he was born in New York I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 This is true, he was born in New York I think. Technically New Jersey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 ive had it a few times, most recently in the game im playing in hong kong.. but more annoyingly, its players that were born in hong kong, taking on English nationality!! ive had players at my club where my league classes as "foreign" for almost 10 years, and they havent taken this choice.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Technically New Jersey. Lol, thats funny. On FM08 it says he was born in New York yet on Wikipedia it says he was born in New Jersey, which one is correct? :S lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Lol, thats funny. On FM08 it says he was born in New York yet on Wikipedia it says he was born in New Jersey, which one is correct? :S lol. Guess the researchers need to do more research Even Rossi says on his website that he's born in Teanack, New Jersey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 michael owen born in Cardiff. Gibson is Northern Irish Kilbane, Morrisson, S. Reid are English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy38 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 michael owen born in Cardiff. WTF? No... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 michael owen born in Cardiff. I think you mean Chester, which is in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinZac Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 There's a lot of people who are posting players without reading the thread. The thread is talking about players gaining citizenship by being in a foreign country for a number of years - NOT players born in one country who choose to play for their parent's country instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerdMuller Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Germany is still celebrating to have Sean Dundee get to play for the national side...not. In the game i noticed something related to this. when playing the demo with Everton after a week or 2 Yakubu got English citizenship or soemthing is this WAD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDVaart Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Sunny who plays for Valencia in the game is in Spains squad in my game even though previously capped at under21 level for Nigeria. In 08 he even got a few full caps. Not unheard of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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