godemperor Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Well, basically belgium feeder club requires the player to spend 3 season in belgium cumulatively to get become citizen, which is impossible with the currently loan system, is this a bug or am i doing something wrong? If it is a bug will there be a future option of send player to load for 3 seasons cumulatively? edited for spelling mistake/missing words Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 if you look at his info screen at the bottom it will tell you how many days he's been in belgium and how long he has left.. .these days go down as he's there.. it will stay at that number even if he gets sent back or completes his loan... what im saying is you can send joe bloggs to genk for a whole season and when he comes back.. send him again and he wil carry on... you dont have to have the player there the whole 3 years without a break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manden Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 if you look at his info screen at the bottom it will tell you how many days he's been in belgium and how long he has left.. .these days go down as he's there.. it will stay at that number even if he gets sent back or completes his loan...what im saying is you can send joe bloggs to genk for a whole season and when he comes back.. send him again and he wil carry on... you dont have to have the player there the whole 3 years without a break That's where you are wrong, the rules have been changed and a person now how to stay there for 3 years in a row (continually), before the change it was 3 years accumulative (so total of 3 years, does not have to be 3 years in a row) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NdelaPiedra Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 That's where you are wrong, the rules have been changed and a person now how to stay there for 3 years in a row (continually), before the change it was 3 years accumulative (so total of 3 years, does not have to be 3 years in a row) ...ok. So instead of freaking out OP should cancel link and ask board for new one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 seriously? oh.. thats an odd rule to implement into game without changing the loan.. my bad OP didnt realise it had changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Just checked on FM and you are right it has no been changed to continuously from accumulatively. If you sign a player that is granted a work permit for your club then it wont be a problem but if you sign a player that fails to get a WP so you have to send him to an affiliate to gain a WP will that player actually come back to you every year or will he stay out there until he gains a WP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 i cant imagine SI implementing the change in rules and not coming up with a solution to go with it.. it would be a glaring error tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
godemperor Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 what other nation can u get an EU nationality in 3 years? I know spain can be done in 2 years if the player is from south america but my guy is from africa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 romania , poland, bulgaria... i was under the impression african countries were included in the new spanish exception rule? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Styles Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 romania , poland, bulgaria... i was under the impression african countries were included in the new spanish exception rule? This has nothing to do with gaining nationality, African players will not be seen as Foreign in Spain. Pretty useless for an English club trying to get a player an EU-passport ASAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 they still gain spanish citizenship though right tommy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 African's wont count to their quota (ie send hundreds of them), but it will take 10 years to gain nationality also, for South americans going to Spain, they now reject any excess players (won't take more than 3) rather than just leave them unregistered yeah, Bulgaria is best (CSKA Sofia or LEvski for continental expereince) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Styles Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 they still gain spanish citizenship though right tommy? Yeah definitely, but as stated above it takes 5 years. Seeing as the youngest you can get an African player is 18, that means you get him back when he is 23. Since players are best formed until the age of 24 this means you have only 1 year left to "form" the player. So, yes it is definitely possible, but far from ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 ahh fair enough... good for spanish teams then , not so for english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurogj Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I use Croatia in FM2011, only takes 2 years (cumulatively), is that changed in FM2012? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I use Croatia in FM2011, only takes 2 years (cumulatively), is that changed in FM2012? Croatia aren't part of the EU (which doesn't help those looking for WPers) edit: seems i need to keep up, Croatia for WPers it is (as they only take 2 years for nationality) any rules on foreign nationals (in the league)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Things Could Get Messi Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 i have a croatian feeder team and my link info says it takes 2 years for players to become a croatian national. not got the league open though so i cant really give anymore info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coen Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Bulgarian WP feeder clubs still work. I have one on my save and it says the players need 1095 days (accumulatively), so it doesnt matter than a player comes back briefly between loan periods. I've had players out there for more than 1 season and they have all accumulated more than 1 years worth of time towards getting Bulgarian citizenship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 ballz just seen this...looks like ive wasted time training me Georgian kid in Belgium.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Croatia (2 years accumulatively) takes 2 years to gain EU nationality, but EU status doesn't come into effect until July 1st-2013 (start of third season) alternatively, the 3 year options are: Romania, Bulgaria or Poland or for south americans, there's always Spain (can be a bitch to get as a feeder, and won't accept more than 2/3 players at a time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt123 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm sure I read that SI are making it possible to send players on loan to Belgium for 3 consectutive years if not my newly established feeder is pointless, knew I should've chose Levski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedishchef_uk Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 As Matt notes, I believe SI have noted this (in terms of Belgium) and it is being looked at. I think if you flick through the bugs forum, you should see a post with this raised and commented on. A pretty unfortunate slip up I think it's fair to say! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 If you use the editor could you change the rules to 3 years accumlitive? That may help for new games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabajingai Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Croatia (2 years accumulatively) takes 2 years to gain EU nationality, but EU status doesn't come into effect until July 1st-2013 (start of third season)alternatively, the 3 year options are: Romania, Bulgaria or Poland or for south americans, there's always Spain (can be a bitch to get as a feeder, and won't accept more than 2/3 players at a time) Erm but surely if you have a Croatian passport regardless of when you got it, you would still be part of the EU. The rules aren't, you have to be naturalised whilst its a member of the European Union. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusano Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 editor > no work permits simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudz_dk Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Teams in Croatia will not accept more than 6 players on loan. Of course that is if the club does not have any foreign players already, if they do they might (haven't tested) only accept 6 - [number of foreign players]. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
singtelsux Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 editor > no work permitssimple as that. OP has a valid point for asking SI fixing the game. Though using editor may be one option, it is still not a correct solution to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_macleod Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 would be nice for SI to respond as this is a big issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfacemonkeyman Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 would be nice for SI to respond as this is a big issue They already have: We're aware of this, hopefully something can be sorted out at some point to enable a loan for the entire length of the work permit requirement. here: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/281886-Work-Permits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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