Hazzydeepy Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 So far in my first season at Watford (including pre-season) I have had a total of 8 penalties given to me and a ludicrous SEVEN have been missed. Now I all three penalty takers I have chosen have got at least 'good' ratings in finishing, composure and penalty taking, so is this a bug or something? Finally, I've trained all three to individually allocate training in penalties and make sure there aren't any PPMs for 'shoot with power' or something. Anyway, it getting ridiculous and I hope this is cleared up in the Final patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Have you got your game patched? This was an issue for the first version of the game - but it hasnt been an issue for most people since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzydeepy Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yup, I have it patched. It could be just very bad luck of course, 7 misses out 8 isn't a definitive sample of penalties to make a judgement upon, but I still find it unrealistic unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 You are just having bad luck, or have the wrong people taking penalties. It really was fixed in the last patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rega Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'd the same on the current patch. Missed 6 out of 9 in a season. Penalty taker had a rating of 17. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Penalty taking is not the only thing that a player needs. Whats his composure, whats his technique - you cant simply look at his penalty taking stat and assume that just because he has 20 in it hes going to score every single one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilyoshi Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Only had 3 pens so far in FM11, playing as wolves, missed all three, that might just be bad luck, but interestly all three pens where blasted into row z in pretty much the same fashion, all three pen takers were different, will update as I get more pens to see if im just really unlucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilyoshi Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 and yes im useing the lastest 11.2.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koki Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I also feel that too many penalties are missed in FM. The Bundesliga players are taking FM11 as a bad example. 4 penalties, 4 misses today... EDIT: Just realised that this might sound ironic.. it wasn't meant ironic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I also feel that too many penalties are missed in FM. The Bundesliga players are taking FM11 as a bad example. 4 penalties, 4 misses today...EDIT: Just realised that this might sound ironic.. it wasn't meant ironic! Aye, it may not have meant to be ironic, but it does kinda prove the point that the game isnt necessarily wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koki Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Aye, it may not have meant to be ironic, but it does kinda prove the point that the game isnt necessarily wrong. You're right. One mistake many FM-users do is that they bring up one-time incidents.. we need to look at the bigger picture. I think penalty conversion rate is somewhere between 75-80% in real life. We should look at 100 FM-penalties and then decide whether the game models penalties 'realistic' or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Penalties in my game seem realistic to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 In my game penalty conversions are so bad, it is almost comical. not only for my club but for my opponents as well. In a recent game I was playing against Arsenal and Van persie missed 2 in 1 game. For my club I would say 25% of them are scored on. Too bad I can't cancel the penalty because I would just prefer to have a throw in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Stokes, is your game patched? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Check the concentration attribute of your players as if this is low, they'll have problems with any set-piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 i am patched and frankly it is not better for me, keep having them blasted off target Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruyff14 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 It does happen though in real life I think it was Tottenham recently they kept missing penalties until Van der vaart arrived and took over penalty duty. Still could be worse you could be Martin Palermo who famously missed three in a Copa America match against Colombia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Check the concentration attribute of your players as if this is low, they'll have problems with any set-piece. What's concentration got to do with taking a set piece? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 in my 2.5 seasons in my current save, i havent missed a single penalty. I get them usually once every 4 games on average Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 What's concentration got to do with taking a set piece? well if you have poor concentration how on earth can you concentrate with all the fans at the stadium and the hectic business on the field ? you'll end up duffing the shot of spraying it to 1 side of the goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 i had a look last night, in 5 seasons i have missed 8 pens, scored 29, lost two pen shoot outs, and won 3, seems ok to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I had exactly the same problem - a total of 12 penalties in a row missed between my team and the opposition. This was also in pre-season. After the season kicked in and players were all match fit, things seemed to go back to normal (i.e. the odd miss here and there, but nothing out of the ordinary like 12 in a row all not even on target). I suspect a possible issue with player condition making them crappy penalty takers, as others also seem to be having the same issue either in pre-season, when players aren't fit, or in penalty shoot outs (when condition is also low after 120 mins). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damedius Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 It does seem off TBH. Penalty kicks aren't hard to score on. When I played soccer when I was younger. We had one kid on our team who took all the kicks. He missed 2 in the two seasons I played with him. He doesn't play soccer anymore and isn't a professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 im pretty sure you friend would not have been under the same pressure as professional players, i am also pretty sure the level of goal keepers he was facing was of a slightly lesser quality than most professional goal keepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damedius Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 im pretty sure you friend would not have been under the same pressure as professional players, i am also pretty sure the level of goal keepers he was facing was of a slightly lesser quality than most professional goal keepers. Goalies don't make very many saves on penalty kicks. The shooter usually misses the net or shoots it straight at the keeper. Very rarely the keeper will make an amazing save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Goalies don't make very many saves on penalty kicks. The shooter usually misses the net or shoots it straight at the keeper. Very rarely the keeper will make an amazing save. still if the quality of keeper is higher it makes the penalty more difficult, its no coicedence that Pepe Rena has a very good record of saving penalty kicks, he studies players and the way they take penalties so he can learn and save more than other keepers do. Oliver Khan or Jens Lehman (cant remember which one) once had a note in his sock of the sides the opposing penalty takers usually go to during a shoot out, and he ended up saving most of them, so a good keeper makes a very big difference. Anyway a penalty kick is a very difficult chance to score, the pressure and time you get can make it very hard to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaCeR Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi, Thought I´ll post my experience with penalties here After 19 Matches played in the first season, we have been given 5 penalties and missed all of them. That has got to be some kind of record if it was to happen IRL. Latest miss happened today in the FA cup 1st round game against Barrow, but it didn´t matter because we went on to win 3-0 anyways.. If anyone plays with Wrexham, i suggest you lot not to use Andy Morrell as your designated penalty taker. Andy seems to have decent Penalty taker attributes for BSP level, but somehow he has managed to squander all of his chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Honestly, in every one of these threads there are posts saying "it's not just the penalty rating, it's also ratings for finishing, composure bravery etc" If this is the case, what exactly is the point of having a penalty stat? Does it just mean he can bang in 20/20 in training or what? You may as well just pick the guy who has the best finishing and composure and do away with the penalty stat, because if you get a guy with a 20 for penalty taking, but has low finishing and low composure so he misses more than he takes, what's the point of having a rating for penalties in the first place? It's just ridiculously over-complicated that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony wright Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Have you got your game patched? This was an issue for the first version of the game - but it hasnt been an issue for most people since. I am playing unpatched out of the box and scoring 9 out of 10 penalties. You need to choose the right players to take them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filke Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I played at. madrid and simao misses 11 of 13 penalties, then i put forlan and he had 3 / 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaCeR Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I played at. madrid and simao misses 11 of 13 penalties, then i put forlan and he had 3 / 6 Was that on the "new" patch 11.2.1? Seems a bit low for that level of players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filke Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 yes on latest patch 11.2 with hotfix i tought that is my tactical mistake or motivation mistake but when i saw that im not only one with this problem, i realise its a bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaCeR Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hahaa, Surely enough after posting on this thread my other striker went on and scored our first goal from penalty spot. So it´s 1 out of 6 converted now. It was the Magpies reject Wesley Ngo Baheng who had the nerves to score from the spot on our 5-1 triumph against 2nd placed Mansfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribs Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 in my 2.5 seasons in my current save, i havent missed a single penalty. I get them usually once every 4 games on average i find this very hard to believe, im playing as arsenal and i miss at least 7 penalties a season from some of my best players, aguero keeps missing ronaldo keeps missing my new regen whos 19 penalty taking and 17 finishing composure concentration has missed 4 penalties in a row its like i dont know who should take the penalties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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