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i downloaded the 4231 and loaded it up and was like WTF its not classic then remembered u made it for someone, its very basic, works good, if you convert this to classic would you change it much? thanks.

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You can convert to Classic as still single philosophy (plug and play), but I would use the TC to make a control and counter tactic and then convert these to classic as well.

TM is really a quick forward like Defoe but quick and good in air would probably be better.

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You can convert to Classic as still single philosophy (plug and play), but I would use the TC to make a control and counter tactic and then convert these to classic as well.

TM is really a quick forward like Defoe but quick and good in air would probably be better.

thank you for the reply, suarez for liverpool is a beast with this

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Knap .. i am an admirer for your work .. I have a question .. it may sound a silly one but plz forgive my stupidity if it was mentioned before and i didn't notice ... what happens if i use standard pich instead of minimum ??

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The testing I did a little while ago would suggest that maximum performance is obtained by using the recommended pitch size for tactic. Minimum pitch size tactics probably allow much heavier closing down to be used and this has been a feature of FM09 and FM10 tactics.

With the final patch I will set up a test game for max pitch size but it takes time to test so many variables.

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I've always preferred the maximum as I'm the attacking team at home, however, even top teams appear to perform better on min pitch size at home so the logic is to use a min pitch size. For test purposes, it may be say a difference of 6 pts over a season, so it is not that easy to obtain a clear indication which is the better option without using the extremes.

There is no reason not to use a standard pitch size and this pitch size may be best of both worlds.

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I'm having great results with the tactic from the OP. But I'm 10 years in and have probably the best players in the Premier League with Southampton :) Basically the thing to look after most are the fitness levels of your players. If you are able to have 2 good players in each position (and some of the more versatile to cover injuries) you're pretty much guaranteed wins :) I did 2 seasons with this tactic winning everything and changing between two sets of equally good 11 players.

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Your 4-4-2 Classic is the best tactic i've played with the new patch.

Congratulations.

Cheers

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I do not have any preconcieved ideas about players< but just try to use the best players I can in their natural positions for the tactical formation. This is Spurs squad but I use same tactic if I'm playing Woking but you will need to buy or use free players with Woking.

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knap did you get my inbox? I started a new thread. Let me know what you think. I have made some tweaks to the passing and width and results are even better.

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I do not have any preconcieved ideas about players< but just try to use the best players I can in their natural positions for the tactical formation. This is Spurs squad but I use same tactic if I'm playing Woking but you will need to buy or use free players with Woking.

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in this pic of the tactic. well ive downloaded every 1 & cant find it, could you give me the link please

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Knap did you see my post? Or arent you willing to help out. Were all a team here

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They are old tactics that I use as a base.

I was out all day yesterday so have your tactic and Matts to have a look at sometime today.

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They are old tactics that I use as a base.

I was out all day yesterday so have your tactic and Matts to have a look at sometime today.

Thanks knap appreciate it. I do think it has potential. Matts looks good aswell. Maybe make a trio combined 442 :p

Look forward to it

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seems decent. the players being out of order (by position) in the team ratings/motivation/etc lists is a bit annoying though.

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The tactic in post 69 is the same as I used in post 56.

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knap what about a 4-3-3

your 442 has been brillant with my bayern team

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Was that the 442 from post 26?

What type of 433 formation?

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How are people getting on with this?

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Knap, do u use a previous tact as a base? I ask u this because i am willing to tweak ur 4222 into a 4231, but wouldn´t the player roles selected at the wizard version influence player´s behaviour?

Thanks

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What type of 433 formation?

I would like a 4-5-1 type. With a flat back 4, DM, 2 CM's, AML, AMR and ST.

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Hi Knap, ive just released V2 of my tactics.

If you have time, could you test all three of them on your excellent test?

If you don't have time, don't worry. :)

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matt

I will PM results when I find some time to test.

Boogiept

There is already a 4231 just a TC version. I have now realised this does not convert to classic and will try to set up a classic version.

Shiraz

I will try a 451 but DM tactics tend to need a new base tactic compared to 2 Mcs. The best recent 451 was Red Hot Dutch a TylerBode spin off.

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Knap

Surely this tactic the the wrong one??? It has the worst defence I have ever seen! The goalkeeper never comes out for the ball, also the centre back never close down opposition forwards and let them just run through. Maybe this is ME or you may have posted the wrong tactic, but its awful! Just got humped 5-1 by Celtic in the league, and seriously I have never used a tactic of yours before where you can see so many problems.

Steve

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Steve

Can you send me your game, as just played 3 games without any issues.

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Knap

The results were so bad I never kept the save, but I just used your tactic again, against Celtic and this was the result:

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Not good for me at all, sorry. I'm gutted as well, as i'm a big fan of your tactics, as you know.

Steve

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Shiraz

I will try a 451 but DM tactics tend to need a new base tactic compared to 2 Mcs. The best recent 451 was Red Hot Dutch a TylerBode spin off.

Well, if you get a chance, it would be nice :D

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Steve

Just send your Rangers save and I can pick up the Celtic game. However, if you are trying a new tactic away to Celtic there is a high probabilty of a big fail. Can work other way with a good win but usually with trying tactics I use high morale and an easy starter game just to bed tactic.

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knap is there any way u could mack the bak four on the 4231 tactic stronger? scores loads but concedes **** loads im tottenham bty defiualt squad with eto chers

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Knap

Send me your e-mail address and I will e-mail you my game.

Steve

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Steve

Use the PM.

Not sure why the 4231 is conceding as a TC tactic, just Can't happen! I am working on a classic version.

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tbh its the best 1 ive used knap but i concede alot of corners and certain strickers do run right through my defence

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Corners and long throws are a problem area and I 've tried close down taker but I think it's is broken. Open to ideas on this one.

If not using a DM then it is open down middle and often the AI will use 5 at back. Its a risk closing earlier from the CB as opens a gap at back, and at end of day cannot eliminate all risks. I may look closer at Nike defence set up.

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The original 4222 at the start of the post is working really well for me. Is it worth trying your second 4222 that you posted? Do you consider it an improvement?

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whatever you'd prefer knap

I prefer 4-3-3 with 3 strikers up top,but if you want to do it the 4-5-1 way,anything would be appreciated

I use your 4-2-3-1 at home

and 4-4-2 away

works well

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Silly question but whats a TC tactic?

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Silly question but whats a TC tactic?

the tactic which is done with the tactic creater in the game is called TC tactic.

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If a tactic is posted in thread it's often a WIP tactic.

TC is Tactics creator.

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Knap, i tweaked a litlle ur 442 posted above, wich i think it´s the best until now, to make it a 4231 and the results so far r impressive.

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In theory you should be able to make ant formation from a preferred back 4 set up. The right MC is a DM, the two wingers can be wide forwards and left striker AMC or MC. With a classic tactic to be defensive reduce runs add TW and attacking add runs.

If you have a good variation tactic post it up with results for others to try.

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i´ll play a few more games with it. If it worths it i´ll share. The problem in this patch is to find consistency. One game i trash the opponent, while another one my team seem to behave like amateurs.

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