Creating Newgen Faces Using Midjourney

[phnompenhandy]

Is everyone familiar with "Midjourney", an experimental app on Discord where you type in a few words and it creates an image for you?

I'm not sure anyone's used it to make regen faces, so I have. I typed in "[player's name] at 15 years old, dark blue football shirt" and came up with faces that I've put with my academy intake kids. See what you think, and see if you can work out which names I inserted into the box.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by phnompenhandy

[Jamie Aubrey]

A young Colin Hendry ?

 

[phnompenhandy]

1 hour ago, Jamie Aubrey said:

A young Colin Hendry ?

 

Not far off. Gordon Strachan.

[wkdsoul]

Yeah, Guido and View from the touchline are looking at making a community newgan facepack from it.

[robterrace]

3 hours ago, wkdsoul said:

Yeah, Guido and View from the touchline are looking at making a community newgan facepack from it.

We've got about 400 faces already, with more in the file ready to go.

[vJords]

34 minutes ago, robterrace said:

We've got about 400 faces already, with more in the file ready to go.

share some with me n the community

thanks. i want to use this for my newgen favourites

[phnompenhandy]

3 hours ago, robterrace said:

We've got about 400 faces already, with more in the file ready to go.

Just seen yours in Twitter. They're fantastic. Making them 15 years old is my contribution!

[robterrace]

3 hours ago, vJords said:

share some with me n the community

thanks. i want to use this for my newgen favourites

Should be some more coming out in the next day or so.

[robterrace]

1 hour ago, phnompenhandy said:

Just seen yours in Twitter. They're fantastic. Making them 15 years old is my contribution!

I've got 359 images uploaded to the folder so far, plus another couple of hundred to work on tomorrow whilst I'm working.
Quick preview of my folder of stuff..

 

[phnompenhandy]

^ Great stuff, and some top youths in amongst them. I think it would be very useful to sub-divide packs by age. Older ones who can be staff (some in shirt-and-tie, others in tracksuits), mature players for those without faces in other packs, and youths for academy intakes and teenagers in general. NEWGAN has different shirt colours, which is great - although I don't use it because all the faces look too similar. I also note that most of the packs have too little variety re. hair colours and styles - a distinct lack of gingers for one.

[phnompenhandy]

When you find a wonderkid labelled "the next Paul Scholes"....

 

[phnompenhandy]

16 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:

Is everyone familiar with "Midjourney", an experimental app on Discord where you type in a few words and it creates an image for you?

I'm not sure anyone's used it to make regen faces, so I have. I typed in "[player's name] at 15 years old, dark blue football shirt" and came up with faces that I've put with my academy intake kids. See what you think, and see if you can work out which names I inserted into the box.

 

 

I had a heck of a job getting 10-year growth moustache off a certain 15 year old kid! In the second batch some have giveaway shirts (as I didn't enter shirt colour) and haircuts. With players of yesteryear, many images reflect the quality of images at the time, of course. I do think the black & white ones look really great - a whole pack of b&w faces could be very attractive. But it's interesting to see which ones are immediately obvious and which you'd need to squint for a while before getting there. Anybody guess the third one? - big Premier League star today.

Edited January 11, 2023 by phnompenhandy

[robterrace]

5 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:

^ Great stuff, and some top youths in amongst them. I think it would be very useful to sub-divide packs by age. Older ones who can be staff (some in shirt-and-tie, others in tracksuits), mature players for those without faces in other packs, and youths for academy intakes and teenagers in general. NEWGAN has different shirt colours, which is great - although I don't use it because all the faces look too similar. I also note that most of the packs have too little variety re. hair colours and styles - a distinct lack of gingers for one.

Thats where I like this. We can prompt it to run specific hair colours and other things. Although, don't prompt it with Blonde Mullet and Moustache. It brings back memories of certain 'films'.

[vJords]

16 hours ago, robterrace said:

Should be some more coming out in the next day or so.

This looks sick wtf. Are you going to make manager profiles as well for those who would like to change their picture?

I'd love a few skin colour males in a black/grey suit with ties and a glasses. if possible.

[robterrace]

27 minutes ago, vJords said:

This looks sick wtf. Are you going to make manager profiles as well for those who would like to change their picture?

I'd love a few skin colour males in a black/grey suit with ties and a glasses. if possible.

Got a few, will be working my way through some over the next few days.

[robterrace]

6 hours ago, vJords said:

This looks sick wtf. Are you going to make manager profiles as well for those who would like to change their picture?

I'd love a few skin colour males in a black/grey suit with ties and a glasses. if possible.

Staff/Manager pack released this evening - https://www.mediafire.com/file/6n5bv2v3bm2nsv7/Post_Staff1.zip/file
Future ones will increase the depth of staff available, these were just a first attempt at some.

[snowofman]

got this link today

https://www.viewfromthetouchline.com/2022/12/15/fmugens-newgen-facepack-fm23/

[PequenoGenio]

This should be possible to use like this:

Good old days

[vJords]

On 11/01/2023 at 20:47, robterrace said:

Staff/Manager pack released this evening - https://www.mediafire.com/file/6n5bv2v3bm2nsv7/Post_Staff1.zip/file
Future ones will increase the depth of staff available, these were just a first attempt at some.

Love it brother, can't wait for the diversed version. I can finally use these for my newgen staff.

[phnompenhandy]

Some finished pix now regens in my game

  

         

Edited January 14, 2023 by phnompenhandy

[robterrace]

10 hours ago, vJords said:

Love it brother, can't wait for the diversed version. I can finally use these for my newgen staff.

Here you go. Part 2. More diversity. More to come.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2e2rduktaubo6e/Post_Staff_2.zip/file

[robterrace]

18 hours ago, snowofman said:

got this link today

https://www.viewfromthetouchline.com/2022/12/15/fmugens-newgen-facepack-fm23/

Thats where most of the stuff is being run from. The staff packs are my own little thing, but, theres an entire NEWGAN based facepack coming for this.

[robterrace]

9 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:

Some finished pix now regens in my game

  

         

They're better than some of the nightmare fuel ones I created the other night

[robterrace]

@phnompenhandy #4 is a great here... 

[phnompenhandy]

Ha ha - Marty Feldman???? 

But seriously, I do like to see faces that are distinguishable from the rest. Some packs are way too similar, the worst being NEWGAN which have hundreds that look nigh-on identical. This guy definitely stands out!

[giglet13]

These are fantastic, reminds me of the chilledmoose work - slightly scary/mindblowing the capabilities of midjourney. 

All the packs I've seen the image sizes are 180x180 - is there anywhere to download packs of the higher res (250 or 750 files?) - my skin and screen size have the faces larger and so it's a bit noticeable in 180 vs others with higher resolution. Appreciate the work thats gone into generating the faces by others so far! 

[hyrule_king]

They look amazing, hopefully someone will come up with a program that can generate random pics for each newgen you have.

 

[hyrule_king]

Tried to join the discord server but it doesn't appear in discord

[phnompenhandy]

6 hours ago, hyrule_king said:

Tried to join the discord server but it doesn't appear in discord

I struggle to understand how Discord works, but it's the ONLY way you can access Midjourney. Check again.

[hyrule_king]

9 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:

I struggle to understand how Discord works, but it's the ONLY way you can access Midjourney. Check again.

It comes up with the are you a robot, choose certain pictures then nothing appears in discord, very weird.

 

[phnompenhandy]

22 minutes ago, hyrule_king said:

It comes up with the are you a robot, choose certain pictures then nothing appears in discord, very weird.

 

This ought to come up if you type in any search box

[mlodziezowy]

Been intrigued by this so I started making faces for the better newgens in my Wimbledon save -posting some of the results and the query for people that want to try and do what I did.
I used "ultra realistic 8k, (ethnicity) (nationality) footballer, (hair), (facial hair), (color) shirt with (color) collar, portrait --upbeta" as the prompt and it came up with these:

some results are unusable and a little ridiculous (half blue, half yellow hair, dreadlocks growing out of ears, etc.) but after some photoshop tuning they look awesome in-game (I'll update the post with some in-game shots after work)

Edited January 23, 2023 by mlodziezowy

[phnompenhandy]

^ Wow, those look like proper professional jobs. SI HAVE to reproduce this kind of quality for FM24 now!

[mlodziezowy]

10 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said:

^ Wow, those look like proper professional jobs. SI HAVE to reproduce this kind of quality for FM24 now!

They won't they're still using facegen (made in 1998, hasn't changed much since) - it's a real shame though, they really look like 30+ hour jobs in 3dsmax for each one of the images and it took me about an hour to make all of these, edit them and put them in game

Edited January 23, 2023 by mlodziezowy

[pedrosantos]

Thinking skipping work and go home to install these ones  

[hyrule_king]

 

Looks ridiculous IG

Edited January 25, 2023 by hyrule_king

[BuzzR]

Guys , I want to thank you for this !

I've stumbled upon this thread by chance and now my regens never looked better !!

[phnompenhandy]

That's a fantastic job. Us normies can use this software to create such professional-looking pictures. It leaves SI far behind in the mid!

[robterrace]

Got a load more in the works as well. Done over 5000 so far, and, I think theres about another 800 or so I've got to work through over the next week.

There is a batch of staff packs I've done as well.

[robterrace]

Just a few from the last few days I've worked on (in between research stuff)

[phnompenhandy]

1 minute ago, robterrace said:

Got a load more in the works as well. Done over 5000 so far, and, I think theres about another 800 or so I've got to work through over the next week.

There is a batch of staff packs I've done as well.

Rob, as the numbers are getting humungous, I wonder if they can be packaged up into smaller groups. "Staff packs" are a good move, but also 'male staff', female staff', 'track-suited coaches' and 'men in suits', and for players '15/16 year-old newgens', guys in their 20s, in their 30s, baldies, hairies, gingers, that sort of thing.

[robterrace]

The ones I'm doing, I'm leaving in various groups.

Once we're putting them in the main pack, they're being arranged by the Newgan way (ethnicity), although, the 'special' packs I've done are remaining their own thing.

Most of my ones are 'teenage newgens' at the moment. I'm also looking at doing 'age advanced' faceshots of the same faces.

Edited February 2, 2023 by robterrace

[robterrace]

Further to the last bit.

Something I worked on last week, that I'm tempted to take further.

The same 4 faces, at ages 17, 25, 30 and 35. It needs work, and I need time to do it, but, I'll get there.

[phnompenhandy]

Yeh, saw that on Twitter - fantastic stuff. Is it possible to write a code that would get the game to update the pictures automatically, or would we be setting 'notes' to remind us to update?

[robterrace]

8 hours ago, phnompenhandy said:

Yeh, saw that on Twitter - fantastic stuff. Is it possible to write a code that would get the game to update the pictures automatically, or would we be setting 'notes' to remind us to update?

At the moment, it'd be setting notes. I can code, but, not as well as to get it to automatically update.

[vJords]

10 hours ago, robterrace said:

Further to the last bit.

Something I worked on last week, that I'm tempted to take further.

The same 4 faces, at ages 17, 25, 30 and 35. It needs work, and I need time to do it, but, I'll get there.

This idea is brilliant! Especially for the youth academy players that actually stay and become a part of your team for years

[robterrace]

1 hour ago, vJords said:

This idea is brilliant! Especially for the youth academy players that actually stay and become a part of your team for years

Its still something I'm working out, and, time and work permitting (being self employed with not much work at the moment is a killer), I'll probably have something sorted.

Something I'm 'messing' with is below.

Edited February 2, 2023 by robterrace

[keysi]

2 hours ago, robterrace said:

Its still something I'm working out, and, time and work permitting (being self employed with not much work at the moment is a killer), I'll probably have something sorted.

Something I'm 'messing' with is below.

Just my opinion but I would say the last one is more like 37-38 years old rather than 33 years old but the idea is perfect. 

[BuzzR]

4 hours ago, robterrace said:

Its still something I'm working out, and, time and work permitting (being self employed with not much work at the moment is a killer), I'll probably have something sorted.

Something I'm 'messing' with is below.

How do you generate them ?

Do you prompt with the first image and age them - if so , what prompt do you use ?

or you keep the prompt and seed and generate all 4 from the start with different age ?

[robterrace]

32 minutes ago, BuzzR said:

How do you generate them ?

Do you prompt with the first image and age them - if so , what prompt do you use ?

or you keep the prompt and seed and generate all 4 from the start with different age ?

Keep the prompt, and seed, then change the age. That way, it gives just enough of a change to allow for a few things, you can change the hair and other things, just don't forget the eye colour like I did..