Popular Post darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Welcome back everyone!! This is the new incarnation of the Youth Academy Challenge started by ri916 and continued by Braumiller before I picked it up. This new thread will also play host to people that are starting on older versions if they want, just easier to keep people active even if not on latest version. Please let me know if you’re playing on an older version though. The Aim To win your chosen countries' top division and win the Champions League of your continent with a previously unplayable club using only your academy as a way of acquiring new players - this mean NO TRANSFERS of any kind. No buying back former players. Even on a free. No loans not even as part of a deal to sell your player. The Available Countries Previously any Country in Europe was eligible as long as you can get a previously unplayable side promoted from Holidaying, however from last couple of years we were happy to extended it to the rest of the world as well as long as the team meets the criteria of being previously unplayable and that is the same this year. Custom leagues will be allowed from now on however if you complete the challenge on a custom DB we'll list your achievement with note to say it was done on a custom DB because we have no way of verifying the DB. Not all leagues are able to be used though so please ask in thread, by tagging myself and/or XaW, to check before you start. Helpful Information There is often lots of speculation about what impacts the youth intake and what you as a player can do in order to get the best intake you can and the below is the information we have thanks to @Seb Wassell (sorry for the notification here mate) Newgens & Youth Intake Youth Recruitment The Club’s recruiting of Juniors, those of home and foreign origin. Youth Facilities The training facilities available for Juniors (only). Does NOT apply to visible players already at the club. All visible players currently at the club use Training Facilities regardless of age. Junior Coaching The quality and quantity of Junior Coaches at the Club. Nation Youth Rating The potential maximum quality and quantity of Juniors produced in that Nation. Game Importance How important football is considered to be in that Nation. Producing Newgens The Clubs with the best Youth Recruitment will generally pick up the best Junior talent from that Nation first, the scale of that talent being determined by the Nation Youth Rating and Game Importance. The lower the Youth Recruitment the further down the pecking order a club will find itself. Two clubs with identical Youth Recruitment will be sorted by Club Reputation. Being lower down this pecking order does not mean quality Newgens cannot be produced, it simply lowers the chances. Youth Facilities and Junior Coaching then simulate and determine how that Junior progresses in the Club’s Junior system until a Newgen is produced and appears in game. It is at this point that the Current Ability (CA) and Potential Ability (PA) of the newgens are decided. The above factors all contribute to both CA and PA equally. Head of Youth Development (HoYD) The club’s HoYD is responsible for bringing Newgens into the club. He will influence what “type” of players are selected and can partially or fully pass on his personality to some of these Newgens. The “type” of players selected refers to a player’s position and style, for instance a HoYD with a preferred 4-5-1 formation and a Technical Coaching Style may produce more technically styled midfielders than another HoYD. The HoYD will also influence the rare “freak” or exceptional Newgens that come through, modifying their ability and style. This role is filled by the HoYD by default, however if none is employed whichever staff member is set to be responsible for youth development will fill this role. Youth Intake Preview In FM22 the Development Centre will provide a preview of the upcoming youth intake ahead of the day itself. This preview will provide some information on the general quality of the intake, positions that are either blessed with or lacking in quality and any other notable highlights. Currently it seems we DON'T get an inbox item for when poaching other teams players happens, but we instead get in an extra player in the first possible intake. Not ideal, and I hope SI will fix it, but at least it's possible to see after the player appears so worth checking how many players come through - it's usually 16 so any more than that and you've likely got a poached player in your intake Junior Player Poaching It is possible for Juniors to be poached from another club's youth system. This will most commonly occur from smaller reputation club > larger reputation club. When this occurs a inbox item is received, offering a few details (similar to that of the Youth Intake Preview) on the player that has been poached. Poached players will appear in the next appropriate youth intake. The Reset Dates (Dates will appear when they have been confirmed for FM22 so please tag me when you know and if the country you pick isn't listed below just let me know the reset date and I'll add it) Some leagues (any you find please let me know) don't have relegation for the firsts season so if you want to play in those leagues you will be required to holiday for 2 seasons. Norway for example the top two tiers run the first season and without relegation in the lowest one. Holidaying a season will make the other leagues start as normal season 2. So holidaying through that will allow the normal promotion to the 3rd tier. The reason for this is that all amateur football has been suspended this season in real life. Also as of FM21 (I think it was) the sides that are picked to be promoted from the unplayable leagues are no longer picked the day before the league reset so we now have to holiday to a point usually a few weeks before the league reset. Save there and then holiday to the league reset in order to get different teams. Holland - there is now no relegation from the bottom tier of Holland for 3 seasons so if people want to do this challenge in Holland you will have to holiday past 3 seasons to get a side that is eligible. Andorra - June 20th. Save on May 25 to get different teams. Argentina - Austria - Belarus Belgium - 30th June. Save April 2nd for different teams Bulgaria - June 18th Brazil - 3rd Jan. Save 1st December for different teams Chile - 10th Jan. Save 1st December to get different teams China - 2nd January. Save 1st November to get different teams Croatia - Czech Republic - June 30th Denmark - June 30th. Save to 1st June to get different teams England - June 25th. Save on May 29th for different teams Finland - 15th December France - 20 June 2022. As the fourth tier is unplayable, select a promoted third tier side. Germany - June 20th. Save on May 24th for different teams Greece - Holland - July 6th 2024. Holiday to June 2nd 2024 for different teams Hungry - Iceland - 25th November. Save on 25th September to get different teams Indonesia - Feb 1st Israel Italy - June 30th. Save 1st June to get different teams Mexico - June 10th. Save 28th May for different teams Northern Ireland - June 25th Norway - Jan 13th Poland - June 28th Portugal - June 30th. Save on June 1st to get new teams Romania - Russia - Scotland - 25th June. Save on April 30th then holiday for 1 day to see who is the promotion playoff team Serbia - 16th June. Save May 25th for different teams Slovenia - Slovakia – June 29th. Save on May 27th to get different sides South Africa - Spain - July 10th Sweden - 26th December Switzerland - Turkey - 29th June. Save June 1st to get different teams Ukraine - June 27th Uruguay - Wales – 25th June. Save May 13th for different teams Database Settings Mandatory Database size can be small, medium or large Advanced Options have to be as shown here – Optional Any additional settings in the ‘Advanced Database Setup’ – Due to us not being allowed to buy players, adding extra players just adds to the realism of your game and potentially slightly increases difficulty. NOTE – It is highly recommended you add the highest unplayable leagues for your country, as this will help make sure the promoted teams (you will be taking control of) have players. As an example, this is what I loaded for England - Players from Top Clubs in Europe (or all players from whatever continent you are playing in) is also recommended We used to limit this to just loading the leagues from the country you are playing in but we now allow you to load as many leagues as you to add a bit more immersion into their saves. You don't have to add any more than the country you are playing in but the option is there for people that want to. Steps When Getting Started Add yourself as an unemployed manager. Call him holiday man if you want. Go on holiday until the reset date of your nation or the day before if you’re planning on reloading. Retire the manager Add a new manager with your chosen nationality and the lowest possible reputation and qualifications Choose the newly promoted club of your choice Rules for when taking over your club of choice You're allowed to keep any player that starts under contract, you can extend their contracts as often as you like Any players that are on loan at the club can be used but their loans can not be extended If your board sign players for you and you can't cancel the deal these players can not be used, they must be sold ASAP, you should also post a screenshot in here when they've been signed so that we know they've been given to you Rules for the Challenge No loans or transfers in are allowed but you can sell and loan players out. If you are sacked, sorry, you have to start again. No save game editors are allowed. Only cosmetic database edits are allowed. (Team/competition names/logos) No international management until completion of challenge. Signing backroom staff is allowed. Signing players on trial or signing grey players isn't allowed. Rules for this Thread Player naming is allowed. General discussion on tactics is allowed, although people should not refer to downloaded tactics. They are not banned, but I would expect the majority of people to avoid them. Screenshots for anything are encouraged but please post links to your pictures, don't post them as images as it makes the pages slower to load. When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile on the league reset date. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread. The beauty of these challenge threads is to share your story and to read others. Please keep us updated, even if you are not performing as you may wish. Season Update Youth Candidates All Tagged Players Attribute page Transfers (to prove that you haven’t signed any players) Squad League Table Anything else is optional. Also, some people like to nickname/tag their best players from each youth intake in chronological order. For example, you could nickname your best player in the intake in season 1 as *their name* YP01a, and so on. But this is not compulsory if you don't wish to. Good luck to all Edited June 7, 2022 by darren1983 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Last year was an insane year for completions so lets see what this year brings User Club Country Year Completed Version thomas_e Katwijk Holland 2036 FM22 Neo_Geo Katwijk Holland 2038 FM22 Daddy Karpaty Lviv Ukraine 2041 FM22` toshimitzou1 Haukar Iceland 2035 FM22 libbyshuss Whitby Town England 2066 FM22 libbyshuss Chaco For Ever Argentina 2056 FM22 dkouv Sant Andreu Spain 2039 FM22 OlivierL Africanos Bragança Portugual 2038 FM22 Ronaldo Beckham Toulon France 2037 FM22 SpS_Zen Heibei Kungfu China 2032 FM22 fries FC United England 2043 FM22 Daddy Deportes Concepcion Chile 2037 FM22 thomas_e Unterhaching Germany 2040 FM22 Flashman\'s School Days Tacuarembo Urugay 2032 FM22 Pauldinho7 Beira-Mar Portugal 2042 FM22 DrJones Huelva Spain 2031 FM22 SpS_Zen Mbombela United South Africa 2038 FM22 Zdnap Lotte Germany 2032 FM21 OlivierL RW Essen Germany 2030 FM21 toshimitzou1 AO Aigaleo Greece 2041 FM21 darren1983 South Shields England 2046 FM21 TerminalPortugal Portalegrense Portugal 2043 FM21 scarp Bora Rangers Scotland 2049 FM21 libbyshuss FC Mirassol Brazil 2045 FM21 holidaysong FC United England 2048 FM21 Slipky Ashton United England 2036 FM21 steve.rush Sannois SG France 2046 FM21 Cheez3y Wits South Africa 2026 FM21 Armeniar Sedan France 2035 FM21 Cheez3y Lyn TF Norway 2031 FM21 thomas_e Sacachispas Argentina 2030 FM21 JAwtunes Widzew Lodz Poland 2038 FM20 vikeologist Palermo Italy 2041 FM20 thomas_e South Shields England 2040 FM20 dkouv Scarborough England 2045 FM20 Miek Nuneaton Boro England 2049 FM20 Padders Scarborough England 2277 (not a typo) FM20 thomas_e Energie Cottbus Germany 2033 FM20 XaW Kettering Town England 2036 FM19 thomas_e Real Jean Spain 2038 FM19 b101 Sampedrense Portugal 2031 FM18 Edited September 25, 2022 by darren1983 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Well Beta is out - good luck on another wild ride everyone! Edited October 21, 2021 by darren1983 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Woop! Loading up now! I think you can remove the stuff about Spain and Portugal. Also, Latvia is added this year, but only one tier, so they are not eligible this year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Transferring graphics files from FM21 to FM22! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Anything I've missed in the OP etc let me know. Obviously let me know reset dates (I know most are usually the same but I like to leave it blank till we know for sure) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton321 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Off to Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto Nakamura Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 All of my planned saves this FM will be about the dynamic youth rating, so with that in mind my first stop will be holidaying in Wales since they have the lowest reputation clubs 'out of the box'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, Makoto Nakamura said: All of my planned saves this FM will be about the dynamic youth rating, so with that in mind my first stop will be holidaying in Wales since they have the lowest reputation clubs 'out of the box'. I think Northern Ireland is lower? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto Nakamura Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, XaW said: I think Northern Ireland is lower? In which case....I'm holidaying in Northern Ireland! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton321 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Spain reset is July 10th 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_e Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 German league reloads on June 20th as last years version. Probably have to reload on May 30th for different teams though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_JHTB_ Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Anything I've missed in the OP etc let me know. Obviously let me know reset dates (I know most are usually the same but I like to leave it blank till we know for sure) I checked the reset dates for all of the leagues that were listed in the FM21 thread. The only ones that differ are China – 2nd January Finland – 15th December Holland - July 7th Sweden – 26th December 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLAB Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Won't be doing the challenge straight away, but will plan on going to Portugal first as a result of my affiliates last season with Paços de Ferreira that I had at Siena in FM 21. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armeniar Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Very curious about the dynamic youth ratings and how they will have implemented in game. National team ranking only, comparison of national leagues and European games,... Might have a huge impact on this challenge, but I do hope it is not too fluctuating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, Armeniar said: Very curious about the dynamic youth ratings and how they will have implemented in game. National team ranking only, comparison of national leagues and European games,... Might have a huge impact on this challenge, but I do hope it is not too fluctuating I hope it makes smaller nations more viable in the long run. Going to try it out at some point, perhaps Andorra again, if someone creates a file. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Good luck everyone ! let's f****** have it ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto Nakamura Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, XaW said: I hope it makes smaller nations more viable in the long run. Going to try it out at some point, perhaps Andorra again, if someone creates a file. My plan for FM22, which no doubt will not be how things turn out are a Northern Ireland youth only, lowest European youth rep out the box, San Marino and/or Gibraltar (2nd and maybe 3rd save) Due to the history of San Marino being awful and Gibraltar having the lowest youth rating in Europe followed by a Bhutan youth only challenge since they're the country with the lowest youth rating that qualify for continental competition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 England is 25th June Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 @darren1983 - Portugal is June 30th. Save on June 1st to get new teams. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Think we may need to have a rethink of England. There’s a date that needs to be saved at to get different sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2021 Here we go......................... Here 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nottingham Forest said: Think we may need to have a rethink of England. There’s a date that needs to be saved at to get different sides. Went back to 1st June and wasn't then so looking at further back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Padders said: Here we go......................... Here Good luck, see you in 2275 ! :-) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, Padders said: Went back to 1st June and wasn't then so looking at further back Last year was June 19th so not ideal if it's earlier than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, OlivierL said: Good luck, see you in 2275 ! :-) Ha ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Last year was June 19th so not ideal if it's earlier than that Yeah tried that first and 1st June Both times same teams came up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Padders said: Yeah tried that first and 1st June Both times same teams came up Bugger, will have a play around now myself and see what comes up. Tag me if you find the date first though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton321 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I am in Spain 1 loss and 2 wins the new layout looks very slick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Nottingham Forest said: Think we may need to have a rethink of England. There’s a date that needs to be saved at to get different sides. 13 minutes ago, Padders said: Went back to 1st June and wasn't then so looking at further back 12 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Last year was June 19th so not ideal if it's earlier than that 6 minutes ago, Padders said: Yeah tried that first and 1st June Both times same teams came up 3 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Bugger, will have a play around now myself and see what comes up. Tag me if you find the date first though. Last matchday is May 7 for Vanarama North/South. I'm holidaying to May 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I’ve got my side anyway. But off to bed now. Bognor Regis Town. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Got new teams in England. Saved on May 6 and then holidayed to June 25. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto Nakamura Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Here we go, I think it's 3 promotions in 3 seasons for Abertillery Excelsior as they've gone from the 5th tier to the 2nd tier of Wales! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 First game Lots of shots! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, keeper#1 said: Got new teams in England. Saved on May 6 and then holidayed to June 25. Cheers. I holidayed till May before seeing that I forgot to load up the national leagues 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Padders said: First game Lots of shots! Is that Brad Clayton that missed the pen? Used to love picking him up on a free when he was at Brentford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles_DK Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Ohh well - Better get startet on this years version in Denmark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Is that Brad Clayton that missed the pen? Used to love picking him up on a free when he was at Brentford Yes it is 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 More to come but first dinner. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Cheers. I holidayed till May before seeing that I forgot to load up the national leagues I did the exact same thing Edited October 21, 2021 by Padders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Padders said: I did the exact same thing I just hit click start as I wanted to test and forgot it doesn't load that far down. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weed07 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 The date in England to save for new promoted teams is 29th May. I've tested it and saving 30th May gives you the same teams each time, saving 29th gives you different teams 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Weed07 said: The date in England to save for new promoted teams is 29th May. I've tested it and saving 30th May gives you the same teams each time, saving 29th gives you different teams Brilliant. Thanks for letting me know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_e Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Great to see all the action on this great part of the forum. Cant wait to read all the progress reports! How about this ME? Feels so good, much more free flowing, I have seen build ups to goals far superior to previous versions! In swinging corners on first post seems to still be overpowered, let's hope they fix it! I really like the skin as well. In fact I like it so much I didn't notice that the board had accepted a bid for my best player Lost him after two games... what a bummer!! I'm three games into my first save, will update after the first season (if I last that long that is!). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weed07 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I've never done a youth challenge before but its been on my to do list, this year i'm going to give it a go starting with Barwell 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 A quick look at the Nantwich squad. We appear to solid up front, have a decent midfield but we are lacking players along the backline. Our goalkeepers will be seeing a lot of work for the next couple seasons. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennuk Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 hours ago, darren1983 said: Anything I've missed in the OP etc let me know. Obviously let me know reset dates (I know most are usually the same but I like to leave it blank till we know for sure) Would you mind putting in the rule about current players at clubs. Like you can keep current players at the club when you take over and extend their contracts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 hours ago, darren1983 said: Rules for when taking over your club of choice You're allowed to keep any player that starts under contract, you can extend their contracts as often as you like Any players that are on loan at the club can be used but their loans can not be extended If your board sign players for you and you can't cancel the deal these players can not be used, they must be sold ASAP, you should also post a screenshot in here when they've been signed so that we know they've been given to you Have added the above to the OP. Think I've covered most of the issues but if I've missed some (I'm pretty tired) let me know and I can add to this. 5 minutes ago, glennuk said: Would you mind putting in the rule about current players at clubs. Like you can keep current players at the club when you take over and extend their contracts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Forgot this post. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper#1 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Got myself a new Head of Youth Development 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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