yovan Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I don't want to be rude, not right now, but the Busquets hate is... well, I will leave that. And then suggesting that Arteta doesn't get a chance because he doesn't have a famous father? Arteta is a good player, but he didn't get snubbed. It doesn't surprise me who is making those comments, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Arteta is a quality player who would walk into most national teams. Its just spain have an embarrassment of talent in CM but to call him overrated is laughable. He's overrated in that he's being compared to the likes of Cesc. I don't think he's a bad player just that he's not as good as Spain's CM's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I don't want to be rude, not right now, but the Busquets hate is... well, I will leave that. And then suggesting that Arteta doesn't get a chance because he doesn't have a famous father?Arteta is a good player, but he didn't got snubbed. It doesn't surprise me who is making those comments, though. es claro que él no ve o entiende el fútbol! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 but Busquets' father has nothing to do with anything. Pep doesn't select players based on rubbish like that, and it was him who brought Sergio into the first team. Guess who played with Pep in Barcelona in the majority of the 90's and came from the Cantera as well I made a mistake in my OP though, he was only a backup GK Which makes me wonder if Pep realized his mistake and tried to get Mascherano in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_rm Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Why is this thread so embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Why is this thread so embarrassing Noob21 is one reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Noob >>>>>>>>>>>> Samba I hope Busquets scores the winning goal in the world cup final just to see Samba's reaction . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Noob21 is one reason Now Now, that's the Barca tinted glasses you're using I hope Busquets scores the winning goal in the world cup final just to see Samba's reaction . Might not change anything, I've never like Rivaldo and his smug a** and he's eons from Biscuits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Barça tinted glasses, yet non-Barça fans agree with me. Does that mean I'm just wearing the frame without any actual glass in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samba23 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I would be delighted to see Busquets score the winning goal in the final, as long as it's not against England. I have nothing against him personally, I just don't think he's very good. Is that hard to understand? Moving on, assuming that Spain play with Busquets (as seems likely) which of Iniesta/Silva/Villa/Fernando Torres misses out? Del Bosque can't fit them all in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Why is this thread so embarrassing Probably because Spain won something last time round so they a lot more people claim to be supporters/ followers. To be cut: Lopez De Gea Azpiliceuta Negredo Navas/ Cazorla Guiza Mata (which is a shame) I personally would have liked to have seen Pablo in there, but I guess its unfortunate he's up against such luminaries for a mere squad place. With regards to Navas, has his homesickness issue been sorted out? He's probably had a better season than Mata and Cazorla but will he be able to stick out the tournament and be in the correct mindset? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I would be delighted to see Busquets score the winning goal in the final, as long as it's not against England.I have nothing against him personally, I just don't think he's very good. Is that hard to understand? Moving on, assuming that Spain play with Busquets (as seems likely) which of Iniesta/Silva/Villa/Fernando Torres misses out? Del Bosque can't fit them all in. He can: GK; DEFENCE; Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, David Silva; Villa, Torres Just like at Euro 2008, but with Busquets in place of Senna. Good old 4-4-2. Or he could play David Villa out wide (as Yovan suggested a couple of pages back), Iniesta in the middle, David Silva on the other flank. 4-3-3. So in essence, it would be Xabi Alonso that misses out in both systems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Saw a ridiculous rumour linking Arteta to Arsenal. He's a good player but he gets overrated and rightfully isn't in the Spain squad. Oh wow In what way is he overrated or are the rumours with Arsenal ridiculous (other than the fact he's on the verge of signing a new contract)? The rumour was on the basis that Fabregas leaves, and he'd be a great replacement for him, who ever compared him to Fabregas anyway? Saying a player would be a good replacement is not the same as saying he's as good as him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Oh wow In what way is he overrated or are the rumours with Arsenal ridiculous (other than the fact he's on the verge of signing a new contract)? The rumour was on the basis that Fabregas leaves, and he'd be a great replacement for him, who ever compared him to Fabregas anyway? Saying a player would be a good replacement is not the same as saying he's as good as him. The links with him to Arsenal are ridiculous because Wenger would never sign him in a million years. Just not the sort of singing Wenger makes, would be to expensive for a start. He's overrated in that some people seem to think he's at a level only just below the likes of Fabregas and Xavi when in fact he's not even close to them. He's a good player who would probably get into almost every team in the premier league but he's a class below the likes of Fabregas and Xavi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Show me where anyone has said he's just below Fabregas and Xavi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Show me where people say just how good or not Arteta is full stop? I'm not saying everyone think he's brilliant but some Everton fans do seem to think he's perhaps better than he is. Saying he's overrated was probably a bit OTT from me. But the point still stands that due to Spain's brilliance he shouldn't be in the squad. Look I was just getting annoyed at Arteta continually being brought up when it's clear that he will never even have a chance of being called up unless he moves back to Spain or moves to a top 4 team in England. It's not as if he's the only brilliant player who can't get in the Spain squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Why do I need to show how good people think he is? I'm not the one claiming that some fans think he's just below two of the best CMs in the world, the highest praise I've seen from fans possessing common sense is that he's a superb player, which is hardly overstepping the mark, in fact I tend to see higher praise from non Evertonians than Everton fans, but it's much easier for you to stick in the good old bias argument to suit your purpose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I make a retraction of the statement and admit I was wrong and you continue arguing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Calm down, dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Just annoyed that you ignored my retraction was all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_rm Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Tickets are €20 for the Poland match. Pleasantly surprised at not being ripped off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 World Cup 2010: Spain Squad - Barcelona Stars Victor Valdes & Pedro Make Vicente del Bosque's Final 23 La Furia Roja have released their 23-man squad for South Africa 2010. Spain's 23-man World Cup squad in full [b]Goalkeepers [/b] Iker Casillas Real Madrid Pepe Reina Liverpool (ENG) Victor Valdes Barcelona [b]Defenders[/b] Sergio Ramos Real Madrid Alvaro Arbeloa Real Madrid Carles Puyol Barcelona Gerard Pique Barcelona Raul Albiol Real Madrid Carlos Marchena Valencia Joan Capdevila Villarreal [b]Midfielders[/b] Jesus Navas Sevilla Xabi Alonso Real Madrid Xavi Barcelona Javi Martinez Athletic Bilbao Cesc Fabregas Arsenal (ENG) Sergio Busquets Barcelona Andres Iniesta Barcelona [b]Forwards[/b] David Silva Valencia David Villa Barcelona Fernando Torres Liverpool (ENG) Pedro Rodriguez Barcelona Fernando Llorente Athletic Bilbao Juan Mata Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Probably because Spain won something last time round so they a lot more people claim to be supporters/ followers. Right, only tropies brings in fans I've been following Spain since the 98 WC even when Paraguay cruelly eliminated them on purpose To be cut: Lopez De Gea Azpiliceuta Negredo Navas/ Cazorla Guiza Mata (which is a shame) Mata and Navas are in but the others are out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Pedro will be battling it out for a place in the final squad with the wingers not the strikers.Imo it's between Pedro and Cazorla for the "versatile - can play on either wing" spot. pedro > negredo & güiza Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Mata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Well it's official, Biscuits is not the only holding midfielder (yay) and Villa might start the tourney as the lone striker (hmm) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 busquets is the closest thing to a holding midfielder there, looks like he'll definitely start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Javi Martinez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Valdes and Pedro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helarxe Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Poor Senna, he trusted a Spaniard PMLF will be happy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Martinez over Senna? I'm surprised, although I haven't seen that much of JM this season. Anyone know how he's played? Also glad Pedro and Llorente made it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Its more because Senna has been **** this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I thought senna would be there but he is in decline and javi martínez is awesome (he isn't really a dm though) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samba23 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Only three true strikers in the squad (Silva, Mata & Pedro aren't strikers). Looks like Spain will be playing with one up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Only three true strikers in the squad (Silva, Mata & Pedro aren't strikers). Looks like Spain will be playing with one up front. only 3 full backs as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 3 strikers is enough when 2 of them are villa and torres. llorente can offer something different in attack from the bench then and pedro is versatile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 If he can, he'll just start them both anyway. If one gets injured, revert to one up-front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 3 strikers is enough when 2 of them are villa and torres. llorente can offer something different in attack from the bench then and pedro is versatile. Torres might not play the first few matches so Villa is up on his own and might stick like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_rm Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Busquets is the only holding midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvandyke Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Spain needed Senna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalbeider Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 only 3 full backs as well Meaning we will play with only one full back? I like the squad. The only thing that surprised me is Javi Martínez over Senna, and only because I truly expected Del Bosque to go for the declining but more experienced option there, not because Senna has been any good this year... Gonna be interesting to see how we line up now. I expect a 4-3-3 with Busquets as the holding midfielder and Villa alone upfront, most likely with Silva and Iniesta on both wings (or as attacking midfielders behind Villa drifting towards the wings). When Torres is healthy I wouldn't be too surprised to see a flat 4-4-2 without Busquets (Xabi Alonso+Xavi most likely) and with Torres and Villa playing together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 yeah I think so aswell, exactly the line up I posted halfway down the last page. maybe del bosque would prefer busquets over xabi alonso in a standard 4-4-2 though for when torres is ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Squad and #: Number Name Nat Pos Height Weight Date of Birth Birth Place Current Club 1 Iker Casillas ESP G 1.85 79 20-05-81 Madrid Real Madrid 2 Pedro ESP F 1.69 64 28-07-87 Santa Cruz de Tenerife Barcelona 3 Gerard Piqué ESP D 1.92 85 02-02-87 Barcelona Barcelona 4 Carlos Marchena ESP D 1.83 78 31-07-79 Las Cabezas Valencia 5 Carles Puyol ESP D 1.78 80 13-04-78 La Pobla de Segur Barcelona 6 Andrés Iniesta ESP M 1.70 65 11-05-84 Fuentealbilla Barcelona 7 David Villa ESP F 1.75 69 03-12-81 Langreo Barcelona 8 Xavi ESP M 1.70 68 25-01-80 Terrassa Barcelona 9 Fernando Torres ESP F 1.83 70 20-03-84 Madrid Liverpool 10 Cesc Fàbregas ESP M 1.77 69 04-05-87 Arenys de Mar Arsenal 11 Joan Capdevila ESP D 1.82 78 03-02-78 Tarrega Villarreal 12 Víctor Valdés ESP G 1.83 78 14-01-82 Hospitalet de Llobregat Barcelona 13 Juan Mata ESP F 1.70 63 28-04-88 Burgos Valencia 14 Xabi Alonso ESP M 1.83 75 25-11-81 Tolosa Real Madrid 15 Sergio Ramos ESP D 1.83 73 30-03-86 Camas Real Madrid 16 Sergio Busquets ESP M 1.89 73 16-07-88 Sabadell Barcelona 17 Álvaro Arbeloa ESP D 1.83 76 17-01-83 Salamanca Real Madrid 18 Raúl Albiol ESP D 1.87 74 04-09-85 Valencia Real Madrid 19 Fernando Llorente ESP F 1.95 94 26-02-85 Iruñea Athletic Bilbao 20 Javi Martínez ESP M 1.90 81 02-09-88 Lizarra Athletic Bilbao 21 David Silva ESP M 1.70 67 08-01-86 Arguineguín Valencia 22 Jesús Navas ESP M 1.70 60 21-11-85 Los Palacios Sevilla 23 José Manuel Reina ESP G 1.94 94 31-08-82 Madrid Liverpool Perdo #2, will be strange to see him play with that number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Pedro switched numbers with Albiol, so he won't be playing with nr 2 after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 So, Albiol will start ahead of Puyol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 no, it will be puyol and piqué. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsJohn Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 What do people think Spain's XI will look like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Casillas Ramos Puyol Pique Capdevilla Xavi Busquets Iniesta Silva Villa Torres imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 no ^ casillas s.ramos puyol piqué arbeloa busquets x.alonso xavi silva iniesta villa probably that. and that is the team they are playing right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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