aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Yeah yeah, I just wanted to have the thread of the WC winners. Will post the squad once its announced, with the necessary history etc. One amazing team, Villa, Torres, Cesc, Xavi, Iniesta, blah blah blah blah blah blah. So debate guys, how do we fit all these amazing players into one team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 David Villa to be player of the tournament imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Casillas Ramos Puyol Pique Capdevilla? Alonso Cesc Xavi Iniesta Torres Villa That's what it should be imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 also, i would quite like to see Spain using a system similar to barca/valencia, with Villa playing as a lone striker ( especially if Torres still has fitness doubts ) with Iniesta floating behind him, Silva and one of Pablo, Cazorla or Navas depending on who makes the squad on the wings with Xavi running things behind them whilst senna or alonso plays the holding role behind him, use cesc and torres as impact subs and they could rip teams to shreds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Surely can't play Alonso, Fabregas, Xavi and Iniesta in the starting 11. Silva instead of Fabregas/Alonso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_dR3 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The only area where Spain arguabally lack a world-class player is left back although Capdevilla has performed decent for the NT. Ramos also not very good defensively at RB. Those are the only problems I see that can prevent Spain from winning the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 David Villa to be player of the tournament imo Xavi tbh. He is dreamy. [/gay] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Jose Enrique to be called up as first choice left back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Casillas Ramos Puyol Pique Capdevilla? Alonso Cesc Xavi Iniesta Torres Villa That's what it should be imo way too imbalanced in midfield, no width and not much pace either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Yeah, but just think of how many passes they could put together Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Plus do they really need width? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Plus do they really need width? with some of the wingers they have, yh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobbo12 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The only area where Spain arguabally lack a world-class player is left back although Capdevilla has performed decent for the NT. Ramos also not very good defensively at RB.Those are the only problems I see that can prevent Spain from winning the tournament. Capdevilla and Arbeloa probably the 2 LBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Those four in the middle, could just play piggy in the middle all match! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Jose Enrique to provide the width! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Wales_Man Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Casillas Ramos Pique Puyol Capdevilla Senna Iniesta Xavi Silva ------------------Torres? Villa Think it would be foolish not to put Xavi and Iniesta, the best midfielders in the world, in their best positions. Torres doesn't have the best goalscoring record for Spain, ofc it's not bad, but he could play the Henry role in the Barca team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 I remember reading Villa has played as a winger before, so guess it would make sense to put him wide? Even though his scoring record ****es all over Torres'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Wales_Man Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Ah I wasn't aware of that, either way it looks good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I remember reading Villa has played as a winger before, so guess it would make sense to put him wide? Even though his scoring record ****es all over Torres'. why the **** would you want play a striker as a winger when you have world class wingers in your team? play a winger there and use the striker as a sub if you want to play with one man up front, villa as a winger is an awful idea, why would you play someone with his scoring record in a position which will mean he is less likely to score? :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Wales_Man Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Which winger would you suggest? The only other I can think of is Mata, who wouldn't provide as much to the team as Torres/Villa, no matter which position they played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 why the **** would you want play a striker as a winger when you have world class wingers in your team? play a winger there and use the striker as a sub if you want to play with one man up front, villa as a winger is an awful idea, why would you play someone with his scoring record in a position which will mean he is less likely to score? :/ Chill out man, I was just responding to the formation suggested! I agree, Villa has to play upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Which winger would you suggest? The only other I can think of is Mata, who wouldn't provide as much to the team as Torres/Villa, no matter which position they played. Mata would offer more playing at left wing than torres or villa would playing there seeing how its his natural position, its stupid to put square pegs into round holes, especially at the world cup when you have a lot at stake and doing something either player wouldnt be used to Spain have a shed load of wingers available to them: Silva, Mata, Pablo, Cazorla, Reyes, Navas, Joaquin, any of them would fir the bill and do well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Chill out man, I was just responding to the formation suggested! I agree, Villa has to play upfront. .......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I think you could play Silva, Villa and Torres as a front 3. Not like it needs to be symmetrical. Kind like an Ibra, Henry, Messi front 3. Silva plays as an out and out winger, with Torres and/or Villa straying into the other channel when needed, but sitting central generally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Isn't Pedro Spanish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 It will be a narrow diamond imo. --Villa--Torres -----Silva --Xavi--Iniesta -----Senna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Isn't Pedro Spanish? yes but hasnt played for spain yet, doubt theyd risk calling up someone with no national experience for the world cup tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I know he won't get a game, but is there any chance of Arteta being in the 23? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott W51 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The manager will probably try and shift Iniesta out to RM and keep Xavi and Senna as the CM's and then Silva LM. Like the Euro 2008 team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Casillas Ramos Pique/Marchena Puyol Capdevilla Alonso/Senna Xavi Iniesta Silva/Mata Villa Torres A lot of slashes there, but there are so many good players its hard to predict what will be the first team. Although I do think they will play slightly lop sided with Silva/Mata playing from the left, as Ramos will provide the width on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I know he won't get a game, but is there any chance of Arteta being in the 23? doubtful, i mean, i really like Arteta, but he couldnt pick a worst nation to be from for playing for his country only way i see him going is injuries, otherwise cesc, iniesta and xavi are all bankers, then you have alonso and probably senna, i cant see more than 5 central midfielders getting taken and sergio busquets would go ahead of arteta i think, wingers will probably be Silva, plus 2/3 of Pablo, Mata, Navas, Cazorla, Reyes and Riera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Never mind nation, the poor bastard couldn't pick a worse position, 4 world class players and Senna ahead of him ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 it's hard to pick the formation del bosque will use because has played 4-1-4-1, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 so no clear preference. I could probably predict the squad however. anyway I guess something like: casillas s.ramos piqué puyol capdevila xavi senna iniesta villa silva torres if torres is injured villa will be the main striker with fabregas in behind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Can we have the thread title 'sponsored by Cesc and Xabi Alonso on the bench'- unless someone else comes up with a better title? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 no, we don't want cringeworthy titles - it's fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Cool, guess I just saw the other threads with titles, so I thought maybe we need one here too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 yes but hasnt played for spain yet, doubt theyd risk calling up someone with no national experience for the world cup tbh Theo Walcott springs to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 meh, Arteta should play for England. Almunia is crap so he can get lost, but Arteta is class. Arteta is as English as KP is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I would take pedro, experienced or not, he doesn't exactly play for a small team without immense pressure as it is and I don't really like jesus navas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Never mind nation, the poor bastard couldn't pick a worse position, 4 world class players and Senna ahead of him ffs Gotta feel sorry for him haven't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So debate guys, how do we fit all these amazing players into one team? Like you did at Euro 2008, but maybe with some chances on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Will Navas be able to go? It's a good bit away from home for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Think Spain will stick with hiw they played at the Euros. So basically: Casillas Ramos - Pique - Puyol - Capdevila/Arbeloa Iniesta - Xavi - Senna/Alonso - Silva Torres - Villa So Iniesta will drift in from the right and Ramos will bomb up and down at every opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raid Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Casillas Ramos Pique Puyol Arbeloa Xavi Alonso Iniesta Villa Silva Torres With the likes of Senna, Mata, Cesc etc around if necessary. Mustard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Reckon Cesc should start if Spain decide to play narrow. Otherwise probably an impact sub Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryston Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Crazy amount of wealth in the Spain national team with plenty of others like Sergio Canales, Pedro etc bidding for a chance to be included. Beside Torres and Villa, what other attacking option Del Bosque has? Seriously I doubt Dani Guiza is doing marvels in Turkey (still there right?) Sergio Garcia? Borjan Kirkic? Then again Juan Mata can play forward when need arises Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Well towards the end of the Euros, Aragones played a 5 man midfield with only one striker up top (Torres) because Villa had injured himself with Fabregas slotting into that midfield role. So, I feel that, in that respect, they have plenty of flexibility. They could play both Torres and Villa up top, or switch to a 4-5-1 and play either Iniesta, Silva, Fabregas, or Mata right behind the striker. All Spain probably need to do is score an early goal and then replace their strikers with Cesc and Alonso. Then, Iniesta, Xavi, Fabregas, Alonso and Senna could just play the ball between themselves for the rest of the game. Silva will offer some striking options Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Crazy amount of wealth in the Spain national team with plenty of others like Sergio Canales, Pedro etc bidding for a chance to be included.Beside Torres and Villa, what other attacking option Del Bosque has? Seriously I doubt Dani Guiza is doing marvels in Turkey (still there right?) Sergio Garcia? Borjan Kirkic? Then again Juan Mata can play forward when need arises Guiza and Negredo will probably be the two other strikers, with Llorente 5th in line imo. With regard to Bojan, I think he blew his chance of playing regularly in the Spain squad early in his career when he made the ridiculous mistake of turning down a spot in the Euro squad due to tiredness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Haha, and the England WC2006 squad were called the golden generation Staggering amount of talent in this team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Makes me wonder why Spain didn't do well at WC2006. Pretty sure most of this team were playing then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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