R1tz Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 OK, I'm pretty sure everyone's gonna recommend playing Messi AMR, inside forward, bags of creative freedom, roaming etc. been there done that, have him cutting in like irl, even tought him the ppm 'cuts inside' after a season because he wasnt performing anywhere near the same as he does irl. So my question is, how do u get messi to score / assist as much as he does irl on fm10 from that position, which is where he predominantly plays? Its not asif messi only started performing well after fm10 was released so SI couldn't have anticipated his performances as he had an outstanding season last year goal/ assist wise and is replicating the same this year, so is it just impossible to have messi score 30+ goals a season from AMR where he does so irl, or am I missing a crucial tactical instuction? Same applies for C.ronaldo too, I appreciate he drifts and plays upfront sometimes, but still is employed as winger, and would like know how to get him to score the ridiculous amount of goals that he scores irl. Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers Guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 When I've experimented with Barca I play him as a pure winger and he scores bundles. I make no other changes, just set to winger. Was over 20 goals and 15 assists - tho this was in a 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeolo888 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 i second this, annoyed me when i was real maddrid in 09 and i signed ronaldo and he scored jack!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 With all due respect to FM, that's impossible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 In my barca save I had their rl tactic pretty much bang on. Don't have time to go into detail. Will do this evening. One important thing though, have his wide play as moves into channels. Same for your aml. That should definitely help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 just started a new game with barca this morning and i'm using the original johann cruijff 4-3-3 and i have to say, messi has been quite amazing just like real life i'm just about to start october and he's started in every game starting right wing (despite coming off injured in the first half of the european super cup) and his record stands at Friendlies - 4 games 8 goals, Club - all comps - 9 games 10 goals International - 3 games 1 goal pretty realistic IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM1000 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 It's the ME its not the attributes of Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Messi has been my most scoring player (closely followed by Suarez (ex-Ajax) and Zlatan (in a way also ex-Ajax) in my first two seasons as Barca. He plays as an inside forward (right side, attack role): Year- apps - (league) goals - assists 2009/2010 - 20 - 14 - 8 2010/2011 - 32 - 20 - 8 This season he has scored 11 out of 23, but Ibrahimovic is having a blast of a season with 24 goals and 12 assists in 25 matches so far. Have played 31 league matches so far. I play a 4-3-3 fluid Attacking, with more roaming. ------ ST---------- AML---------- AMR -----CM-CM------- -------DM--------- DL---CD-CD----DR -------GK--------- Some notes: Back four have "normal roles" except one of the fullbacks (either Lahm or Alves) who plays as an offensive wing back My DM plays as an anchor man, my CM are box-to-box (Iniesta) and a deeplying playmaker (Xavi). AML is a winger (support) AMR (Messi!! is an inside forward with attacking role), ST is a complete forward (Ibrahimovic). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1tz Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 Garion, my formation is exactly same as yours except for the dmc i have an amc, only conceded 6 goals all season so dont really need a destroyer. Still, i play messi the same as you and the johann cruyff formation, inside forward etc, but messi will only score 10-15 goals all season, perhaps the guy that said its the match engine is spot on. Has anyone got messi to score 30+ goals in a season from the right wing? thats what he seems to be doing in real life for the past 2 seasons yet on fm10 its near impossible. So would like to know if anyone has achieved this, how have u got messi set up/ the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I spent ages last night watching Messi's goals on youtube, downloading them and such. I was in awe. I can rewatch some of his goals over and over again, 2 hatricks in the space of a couple weeks. The guy is a god. There is no way you can replicate the way he plays IRL, on FM.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
megafan2005 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 You can to an extent but its not with him set as an inside forward, people make the mistake of thinking that because he cuts inside then he must be an inside forward, try setting him as an Advanced Playmaker and change his wing play to cut inside my friend used this and said that he got the golden shoe and also the most assists in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagepenguin Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 They key is to stop him from playing too far up the pitch. If I had to hazard a guess at a quick fix, you won't want his mentality too high. Having his "run from deep" set to rarely may help as well. On top of that, he may benefit from being set up as your playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 messi is on 20 so far for me the day before new years so i'll let you know once he hits 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAF_85 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I hate 4 3 3 its eitehr 4 4 2 or 3 5 2 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinxin Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 He is absolutely fantastic in my Barca save. Playing him on the right wing as a inside forward and he's so far scored 20 goals in 20 appearances in the league. 1 goal in one match in the cup and 2 goals in 5 matches both for his national side and for me in the CL. It's not _that_ far off what he delivers in real life I'd say...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagepenguin Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 He is absolutely fantastic in my Barca save. Playing him on the right wing as a inside forward and he's so far scored 20 goals in 20 appearances in the league. 1 goal in one match in the cup and 2 goals in 5 matches both for his national side and for me in the CL. It's not _that_ far off what he delivers in real life I'd say...? It's not so much goals scored, but his involvement in play. My AMR/Ls tend to top the scoring charts when set up as roaming inside forwards, however, this usually sees them playing on the shoulder of the last man and not getting involved as much in build up play. Stopping them from roaming and running forwards as often actually sees them playing far more like Messi does. I've just started a second season with Arsenal and have been fiddling with my formation. In the first season, goals were spread fairly evenly across the front 3 (roaming amr/l + fc) with around 20-30 goals each. I've brought those wingers into the game more this season by stopping them from roaming and running forwards as often. So far nasri has 12 goals in 14 appearances, so perhaps I'm onto something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG.L Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Gave messi free role , cut inside rigt wing and creative freedom a lot. Hes my top scorer with 16 in 18 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 His stats are absolutely insane, so it's just an issue of getting him onto the ball alot. Why not experiment with "Focus Passing Down Right Flank" and set him as your primary playmaker. He should get the ball alot more often, then just set him to Run with ball - Often and Run from deep with ball - Often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Seen it twice in this thread, and also in other threads about inside forwards... About holding runs a little. I've found my inside forwards are alway rinning into coverage by the opponent's fullbacks. I think I will take your advice and set fwd runs to rarely. Also seen people suggest using an inside forward as a "support" role, to hold them back on the pitch a little, so they can get involved on play more (like messi does so well). Anyone tried that? Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I always have my inside forwards as support, never actually tried them with attacking, but in my 4-5-1 they are extremely effective and get involved in play alot. My lone striker is also a modified Trequartista, so the front 3 all just roam about looking for goals and assists. Playing as supporting inside forwards Van Persie has 4 goals and 9 assists in 12 starts and Arshavin has 9 goals 8 assists in 12 starts. Make of that what you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james170288 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Check the tactics forum for a thread that has "messi 50 goals per season" in it. This is a great tactic. But hes used classic tactics, dont know if thats what you're after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Messi currently on 29 goals in 36 starts (2 sub appearances) and he's been out injured for a month twice by the end of the season i'll be looking for him to hit at least 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1tz Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 Xechs, good man, wanna share how you got messi set up?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 ITs very much impossible in my opinion, as I feel Messi in real life doesnt play within the inevitable boundaries set by a computer game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Whoever said that you should use 'move into channels' instead of 'cut inside' is spot on. Personally, Ive noticed that 'cut inside' only makes wide players move inside when they have the ball while the former has wide players moving inside off the ball according to their own judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Xechs, good man, wanna share how you got messi set up?? i've got 1 league game left and the spanish cup final, as soon as the season's done i'll get some screenies posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Messi 09/10 http://img716.imageshack.us/i/messistats.jpg/ http://img696.imageshack.us/i/messistatistics.jpg/ http://img140.imageshack.us/i/messiinstructions.jpg/ surprisingly enough he won......absolutely no awards except for goall of the season and champions league goal of the tournament Also he may be rotating with jovetic (AML) but jovetic is also rotating with zlatan (striker) and zlatan with messi so its three rotating forwards if you wanna see anymore info just ask Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Chevalier Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 great player irl and on the game....but is he worth 200k p/wk + a 20k appearance fee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2vA Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 lol ofc he is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almondo Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Roman yes he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xechs Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Roman of course he is, would anyone else be worth even close to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOleSolskjaer Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Roman of course he is, would anyone else be worth even close to that Keith Curle in his heyday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 With all due respect to FM, that's impossible There is no way you can replicate the way he plays IRL, on FM.. I second these. Messi is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Cant wait to see him tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-CGS-) | FM Legend Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I do this for Cristiano Ronaldo -GK- - RB - CB - CB - LB - - DM - CM - -------------------- LM (KAKA) - RONALDO ------------- HIGUAIN Hes a right winger forward is that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Cant wait to see him tonight They play tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeabawss Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ty, didn't you hear? Messi got transferred to Bordeaux! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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