the--dud Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Per Ciljan Skjelbred (born June 16, 1987) is a Norwegian footballer (midfielder) who currently plays for Rosenborg B.K.Skjelbred started his career at local football club Trygg/Lade. At the age of 15 he was selected to compete in a football talent competition entitled Proffdrømmen on Norwegian TV. Skjelbred won this competition and its first prize, a week's training with Liverpool F.C. He was offered a junior contract with the club, but declined. Instead, he went to the Norwegian club Rosenborg B.K., where he soon made an impression. Skjelbred has been capped for the Norwegian under-16, 17, 18, 19, 21, and the senior national teams. Obligatory Wikipedia quote... Personal Profile: "Ciljan" is by a very large margin said to be the most exciting Norwegian football talent since Carew. Regrettably, in 2005 whilst playing against Olympiacos, Ieroklis Stoltidis brutally tackled him resulting in a double fracture (Tibia and Fibula bones) of his leg. During this crucial period of his development, he was unable to progress until he made a comeback one and a half year later at the end of 2006. An interesting fact, after his recovery he played with custom made shin guards made of titanium and carbon composite for quite some time! He's since struggled to find his form, but now finally he is beginning to shine again. This month Norway won against Germany in an international friendly 1 - 0, and Ciljan was by far the stand out performer, sparking hopes from fans that this season he will finally be back as the player we all fell in love with. Ciljan has always been an open Newcastle fan, but a move from Norway has so far failed to happen. Fans of Rosenborg will always be torn against their will to retain him and the fact that he deserves his big break abroad. There seems to be a general consensus that the board will let him move at the next transfer window if an acceptable offer comes in. Style of Play: Per Ciljan Skjelbred is an attacking midfielder/wing player. It's difficult to describe his style, as it's slightly specific to the way that Rosenborg plays. The Norwegian national team also plays a similar style. To Rosenborg tactics were shaped by 'Nils Arne Eggen' who was manager 1988-1997 and 1999-2002, during this time he perfected a very attractive and attacking style of play with very precise player-roles. One of these roles are called 'Indreløper' which can be roughly translated as 'inner/inside runner', and this is the role that Ciljan excells in. AC Milan has very similar roles, so I'll post one of their formations to illustrate: (Sorry about picture being upside down and tiny but it's the best I could find...) We can see here that Pirlo is the DMC and Kaka is the AMC. Gatusso and Seedorf complete the diamond midfield as MCs. Seedorf is probably most similar to Ciljan. He has an amazing stamina and work-rate, and is always willing to move into space a head. Rosenborg plays a 4-3-3 and not 4-4-2 as the image illustrates for AC Milan. This means there is one DMC and two 'Indreløper' on each side. The overriding principal of this position is that he should always look to move into space further ahead on the pitch; therefore he could be placed in between a MC and ML/MR. In FM tactics, this will translate roughly as having three MCs with the middle one working as a DMC. The two outer MCs will then be on forward runs often with a fairly wide style of play. Although it can't be too wide, as an 'Indreløper' won't cross too often he would generally find space on the center of the pitch. Especially because there is three strikers and the two outer ones will often do the crossing. Ciljan in FM09: He’s got excellent First Touch, Passing. Good Dribbling, Technique, Concentration, Creativity, Decisions. This makes for a nimble and agile midfielder. He's also got brilliant Stamina, Work Rate and Team Work. He's also not slow... So yep, good team player and quite quick on his feet. Weakness: Heading, Finishing, Crossing, Influence, Jumping and Strength. Just means he’s not an all-out winger or DMC doesn’t it? He's been a very solid performer for me, even in competitive leagues such as EPL/Ligue 1/Serie A/Bundesliga and similar. In my experience he'll average above a rating of 7 most seasons. You can usually sign him for about £2-3m in the first transfer window. (The screen shot is year 2010 so he’s value’s increased a bit) An excellent passer, and most likely to be the player that covers the most miles for you. Thanks to football_master_94 for providing the screen shot by the way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teezy. Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Very good thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yeah, very good thread. If only they were all like this when first made:p I'll add it into the Links Thread for you:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teezy. Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Has anyone had any experience with him? I've always looked at him as a potential signing but never have actually signed him... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Good for midtable imo. Btw future reference for any player thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Obligatory Wikipedia quote... Personal Profile: "Ciljan" is by a very large margin said to be the most exciting Norwegian football talent since Carew. Regrettably, in 2005 whilst playing against Olympiacos, Ieroklis Stoltidis brutally tackled him resulting in a double fracture (Tibia and Fibula bones) of his leg. During this crucial periode of his development, he was unable to progress untill he made a comeback one and a half year later at the end of 2006. He's since struggled to find his form, but now finally he is beginning to shine again. This month Norway won against Germany in an international friendly 1 - 0, and Ciljan was by far the stand out perfomer, sparking hopes from fans that this season he will finally be back as the player we all fell in love with. Ciljan has always been an open Newcastle fan, but a move from Norway has so far failed to happen. Fans of Rosenborg fans will always be torn against their will to retain him and the fact that he deserves his big break abroad. There seems to be a general consensus that the board will let him move at the next transfer window if an acceptable offer comes in. Style of Play: Will follow... (sorry my lunch is done!) Ciljan in FM09: Will follow... (sorry my lunch is done!) Very good thread and thanks for using my screenshot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 football_master_94: I know hehe, I was gonna add you to the credits when it was completely finished I still will btw! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 No problem, always here to help where i can Especially with screenies etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teezy. Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Sorry to point out a mistake in an outstanding thread, but you have said Kaka is a DMC, and Pirlo is a AMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Changed, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Nice OP, could have got a better picture though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 see? top notch material here.. if only they were all like this.. nicely done dud ... also.. handy as i was literally jsut about to start a new game with newcastle and needed a new midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEEEEEO Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Here he is in 2015 after Man United stole him from me, very good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1mbers Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Just fot the record, his growth might not have been stunted if he had taken that liverpool contract...less likely he would be playing olimpiakos! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisPigeon Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I took him for my Marseille side on the first year to back up Ben-Arfa and he was horrible as AMC in the first year. Loan him the first year if you want him to be decent for the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 LouisPigeon: He should be good from year one, but perhaps it was the "AMC-bug"? Eg, the player ratings for AMC is very low on the FM09 match engine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 He's a very good player and he develops later on as you can see from screenies above, so in general he's a good buy. Nice Thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramel Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Watched him in last year's UCL group stage vs Chelsea. Despite Rosenborg being thrashed 4-0 at home, he actually played pretty well. Showed good technique and some decent potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george777 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 great player. how do you guys pronounce his name? because i havent a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 shell-bread (but with a long e in bread) sort of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 shell-bread (but with a long e in bread) sort of So more like shell-breed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Aye, but you don't pronounce the double-e as an i as you in breed or feed, you still pronounce it as an e. But close enough heh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 That's a brilliant OP mate It would be great if all player discussions were like this. Back on topic, I like the way his stats look. Mid premiership material definitely I remember he was rated better in FM 08 and would always sign with a lower premiership team at the start of the first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 Cheers el_sid To be honest, I wish more people would make player threads of players they actually "known" from real life, as I personally think it provides a much better insight. I mean, we can all sign a random player and judge him by his attributes and perfomance but you won't know a lot about the player this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie7980 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I brought this guy for my aston villa side when i took over (2010-2011 season)for £4m,average of 7.5 in midfield over 50 games.sold him season after for £18m (he wanted to play for man u) very good buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Good to hear As I've mentioned I rate him highly both in real life and FM09. 7.5 average is really good for 50+ games mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshotbg Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 He`s always good! Get him at the beginning of the game. He usually costs 1.1 mil EURO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 what instructions do you guys play him with? and as a amc or mc? because tbh .. as much as i love this type of player.. ala defour etc... i cant get them to perform... help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 I just play him as a typical MCa, eg MC with attacking runs and through balls almost a playmaker type. Obviously I can't speak for others but he generally plays well in that role... Nothing too complicated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Excuse me, honest opinions 3.4m for Lyon yes or no. first season, isn't a must have and coaches say last resort. I don't need a person in that position either so.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 If you don't need him why buy him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Good point as said in the Lyon thread I didn't get him, thanks Hopey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJoe Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Great player, I have him an at Newcastle, which is listed has is favourite club. Only we had him IRL. Dosnt take long to get noticed by bigger clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1990 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I have him for Sunderland. Solid player, gets 7s mostly every game. He hasn't scored or had an assist yet which is somewhat disappointing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubentus_Juventus Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 How do you this guy i play a four four two this guy being the more attacking of the two mc's and i am Catania any players instructions for me! PLEZZZ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Materazzi23 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Great player Here a screenshot from 2016 From second shot you can see that he doesn't have an average ratind under 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz1874 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 good one mate, excellent post, and a top player, i have signed him a few times and is always class. Good work fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pindinho(: Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 nice thread, gonna go for him in my Genoa save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProLagJoe Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Great post. Best i've ever seen on these forums. Very detailed. 10/10 Wish I could do one like this on someone, but the only players I know well are Stoke ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristoaster Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I've got this player but am having trouble getting him to perform. Playing a 4-3-3 and using him as a MCa, with often forward running, mixed runs with ball, no long shots, high through balls and slightly attacking mentality. Is that about right? Seems to me that'd be the best setting for him but against anyone except the worst teams in Europe (ie the qualifying rounds for the Euro Cup) he he can't even get a 7 rating :-/ any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewsufc Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I sign him pretty much every game. He's a very good CM. He'll sign for 1.2m at the start of the season and be worth 7-10m within a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 For my Portsmouth side, he really is a shining star, cannot fault the lad, always puts in the effort where others don't.. But wouldn't think of signing him for anyone in top half of Prem, just wouldn't cut it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evon Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Looks very similar to Defour and costs less. But I can never buy him. I either play as Man Utd or Q.P.R and he's out of both club's ranges. He's not good enough for Man Utd or rather he's not needed and he won't go to Q.P.R. So it seems I'll never have him even though he looks a good player. Even when I played as Udinese he wasn't needed or I didn't have enough money I can't remember which. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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