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FMUpdates England Levels 7 & 8 - Southern, Isthmian & Northern Leagues

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We're back!

After the success of my FM2011 file the Uncle Ron expansion to allow you to play Levels 7 & 8 in the English National League System will be available for Football Manager 2012 under the umbrella of FMUpdates.

As ever, this download will provide you with the most advanced, realistic, detailed and reliable League expansion around. Accept NO substitutes!

Join the FMUpdates forum to recieve the latest information on our releases

Or alternatively follow FMUpdates on Twitter @FM_Updates

The Advanced England League Expansion includes:

  • Fully activated Level 7 Regional Premier Divisions
  • Fully activated Level 8 Regional First Divisions
  • Inactive Level 9 County Divisions created to allow promotion / relegation to Regional First Divisions
  • Northern League Cup, Northern League President's Cup, Northern League Chairman's Cup, Southern League Cup, Isthmian League Cup, Southern League Championship Match, Isthmian Charity Shield, Northern Premier Peter Swales Shield
  • NEW ***The Above cups will become inactive if you disable leagues following promotion to Level 6***
  • FA Cup rebuilt to include Extra Preliminary, Preliminary and 1st Qualifying Rounds
  • FA Trophy rebuilt to include all qualifying rounds
  • All County FA Senior Cups
  • Player of the Month, Manager of the Month, Team of the Week, Top Goalscorer, Player of the Season & Manager of the Season Awards for Regional Premier and First Divisions
  • FA Ground Grading Requirements
  • Missing City data
  • Missing Club data
  • Media Sources for Premier League, Football League and Non-league football
  • Real Fixtures for the Premier League down to the Regional First Divisions

SEE POST #2 BELOW FOR DOWNLOAD INFORMATION AND ACTIVATION

Please do not PM me with any questions. I will NOT respond as my time is devoted to other things. If you have any questions please ask them in this thread so that others have the opportunity to reply.

***PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS FILE HAS BEEN CREATED IN THE ADVANCED EDITOR THEREFORE SPORTS INTERACTIVE OFFER NO SUPPORT FOR GAMERS WHO DOWNLOAD AND USE THIS FILE - PLEASE DO NOT REPORT ANY ISSUES INVOLVING YOUR GAME WITH THIS FILE IN THE SI BUGS FORUMS***

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magicmastermind124

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FMUpdates England Levels 7 & 8 - Southern, Isthmian & Northern Leagues

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As Uncle Ron has mentioned the England Levels 7 & 8 expansion will be released under the FMUpdates umbrella.

You can register on the FMUpdates forum to receive the latest information on our releases. Just click on the logo.

We will always post a direct link to the download on this thread and we will not force you to download through the FMUpdates forum.

v6.4 IS NOW AVAILABLE!

This release is now available in two versions - one with County Cups and one without.

Version 6.4 for FM2012 Database 12.2.0 ONLY - DOWNLOAD HERE***By downloading this file you agree not to re-release it or host it in its original form, or in any edited form, without first seeking and obtaining our express prior permission - this includes redistribution of this file in 'Megapacks'***

Version 6.4 for FM2012 Database 12.2.0 ONLY *WITH COUNTY CUPS DISABLED* - DOWNLOAD HERE***By downloading this file you agree not to re-release it or host it in its original form, or in any edited form, without first seeking and obtaining our express prior permission - this includes redistribution of this file in 'Megapacks'***

Version 6.4 is compatible with the latest FM2012 Database (12.2.0) and the latest FM2012 Version (12.2.2) only. Later versions will not be supported until tested however minor versions will usually be fine.

The default version has active County Cups when Level 7 is active in the game. Once you make Level 7 inactive the cups will not be playable until Level 7 is activated again.

See the bottom of this post for the complete changelist.

Levels 7 & 8 League Activation **PLEASE READ & FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS**

1. Extract the .dbc file "v6.4 FMUpdates FM2012 England Levels 7 & 8" to the Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2012\editor data folder in your My Documents (PC) / Documents (MAC) folder. If there is no 'editor data' folder then please create one and copy the folder into it.2. Load FM2012

3. Select ‘Preferences’ and go to the ‘Display/Sound’ tab. UNTICK use skin cache. TICK ‘Always Reload Skin on Confirm’

4. When completed, leave preferences and ‘Start A New Game’

5. In the dialog window that pops up, TICK the change box.

6. Select the LATEST file (v6.4) in the list, if not already. Deselect ALL OLD VERSIONS!

7. Start a new game as normal, selecting FM2012 defeault database and select level 8 (English Regional First Divisions) as the lowest active league.

8. Select 'Add Key Staff' and 'Add Key Players to Active Teams'.

9. Ensure 'Use Real Fixtures When Available' is ticked.

10. Select 'Custom Database' and ensure you add 'Load All Players Based in England'

This file is not save game compatible and requires a new game to be started.

You may experience issues because you are loading other editor .xml or .dbc files that are causing a conflict. If you are having problems then please:

1. Delete everything in the 'editor data' folder.

2. Download the latest v6.4 file

3. Extract the .dbc v6.4 FMU FM2012 England Levels 7 and 8 file to the 'editor data' folder

4. Start a new game as per the league activation instructions

Media Instructions

Thanks to daniellewis_789 for allowing us to include his excellent media update in our release, including an exclusive media update for the new competitions added as part of our league expansion.

1. Extract the .dbc file "v7.3 FMUpdates FM2012 British Journalists & Media" to the Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2012\editor data folder in your My Documents (PC) / Documents (MAC) folder. If there is no 'editor data' folder then please create one and copy the folder into it.

2. Load FM2012

3. Select ‘Preferences’ and go to the ‘Display/Sound’ tab. UNTICK use skin cache. TICK ‘Always Reload Skin on Confirm’

4. When completed, leave preferences and ‘Start A New Game’

5. In the dialog window that pops up, TICK the change box.

6. Select the LATEST file (v7.3) in the list, if not already. Deselect ALL OLD VERSIONS!

7. Start a new game as normal

This file is not save game compatible and requires a new game to be started.

FAQ

* Can you explain the English Non-league system?

The BBC Sport website has an excellent guide to how the English non-league system operates - LINK

This file includes levels 1 to 8 activated, which is down to step 4 in the English Non-League pyramid:

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* Why is my team in the Northern Premier League, shouldn't they be in the Isthmian League?

One of the qwerks of the English non league steps is how much change there is every season. This all depends on which teams are selected for promotion from Level 9 that may not easily fit into the regional geography of Levels 7 and 8. For Football Manager this is a problem as whilst rules have been set for each league and the vast majority of teams, unfortunately you can't programme common sense into the data editor. On the rare occasion you may find a team sorted into the wrong division, be rest assured that when the first opportunity arises to place them back into their correct division the game will sort them correctly.

* Why do I need to add All Key Staff?

I recommend you tick 'Add key staff'. That way all the staff you need, i.e. a physio and assistant manager will be generated for the clubs where there is not one set in the database.

* Is this release compatible with my save game?

As with all other editor data files, this release is not save game compatible.

* Are you planning on providing a data update for these teams so they have the correct players and staff etc?

This is not a player data update, no players have been added or their stats amended and I have no intention of adding this information.

* What is the rulebook?

The editor is limited in what match and competition rules can be input. As an example, clubs in Levels 7 and 8 are only permitted to give a player a contract, known as League Forms, for one playing season only.

I've reviewed the Isthmian, Southern and Northern League Handbooks and Rules and I have devised a simple rule book for gamers to follow (if they wish) to help make playing these leagues more realistic. The Rulebook PDF is combined within the file download.

* There's something wrong with your file/I'd like to help you with this release, where do I go?

If you want to help with this project and others please check out FMUpdates.com.

Finally, Please Note:

By downloading this file you agree to not re-release it or host it in its original form, or in any edited form, without first seeking and obtaining express prior permission from FMUpdates.com - this includes redistribution of this file in 'Megapacks'. Please PM me if you wish to discuss link the download to your site.

Changelist:

Version 6.4 | Released 22nd June 2012

eng_fa_trophy_v17: Changed date of rounds for 2012/13 season onwards
eng_reg_prm_division_v18: Changed number of clubs from 22 to 24 for 2013/14 season onwards
eng_reg_first_division_v21: Changed number of clubs in Isthmian leagues from 22 to 24 for 2013/14 season onwards
eng_reg_first_division_v22: Changed number of teams being promoted to Step 3 to 3 teams for 2012/13 season to accomodate changes in teams for subsequent season
eng_fa_trophy_v18: Changed number of teams entered for 2013/14 season onwards
eng_v130: Changed number of teams entered for 2013/14 season onwards in the FA Cup and other league cups

Version 6.21 | Released 20th March 2012

eng_fa_trophy_v16: Fixed bug with incorrect teams in 2011/12 season

Version 6.2 | Released 8th March 2012

eng_v129: Fixed file for compatibility with 12.2.0 database
eng_fa_trophy_v15: Fixed file for compatibility with 12.2.0 database
eng_reg_first_division_v20: Fixed file for compatibility with 12.2.0 database
eng_league_cup_data: Added some Team Cup Histories in the League Cup


Version 6.12 | Released 7th December 2011

eng_v128: Changed Transfer Window settings to reflect SI's transfer settings
eng_city_data_v2: Removed Competition Coordinates changes which caused strange league movements
eng_fa_cup_data: Added 5 years of Team Cup Histories in the FA Cup
eng_charity_data: Added complete Community Shield History
eng_reg_first_division_v19: Fixed Playoff issue where teams were seeded in a draw instead of facing fixed teams
eng_reg_prm_division_v17: Fixed Playoff issue where teams were seeded in a draw instead of facing fixed teams

Version 6.11 | Released 22nd November 2011

eng_v127: Fixed the Devon St. Lukes County Cup issue where Man Utd entered the cup

Version 6.1 | Released 15th November 2011

eng_v124: Updated all County Cups where possible to reflect changes for 2011/12 season
eng_v124: Enabled County Cups
eng_v125: Fixed issue where Bromsgrove Rovers and Ilkeston Town were not extinct
eng_v126: Fixed the County Cups of those that were showing in the comp error log file.
eng_reg_prm_division_v16: Added Real Life Fixtures for 2011/12

Version 6.0 | Released 28th October 2011

eng_prm: deleted FM2011 Version
eng_first: deleted FM2011 Version
eng_second: deleted FM2011 Version
eng_third_v2: deleted FM2011 Version
eng_conf_v2: deleted FM2011 Version
eng_con2_region_v1: deleted FM2011 Version
eng_reg_prm_division_v11: Added relegation rules to divisions
eng_reg_first_division_v13: Added relegation rules to divisions
eng_reg_first_division_v13: Added 21 team Southern League South/West for 2011 season with 1 relegation place
eng_v110: Disabled County FA Cups to allow league structure to be tested
eng_reg_first_v2: Activated FM2012 version of file
eng_county_v1: Activated FM2012  version of file
eng_county_division_v1: Activated FM2012  version of file
eng_reg_config_v6: Activated FM2012 version of file
eng_fa_trophy_v6: Activated FM2012 version of file
eng_fa_trophy_v7: Create 265 team FA Trophy for 2011/12 season following withdrawal of Andover
eng_v111: 71 team Southern League Cup created for 2011
eng_v112: Reviewed 2011/12 FA Cup for early club participation due to withdrawal of Andover
eng_v113: Rules 3 Football League - Minumum homegrown players from nation changed from 4 to 6
eng_v113: Rules 3 Football League - Removed Minimum homegrown players from nation in squad (10 player rule no longer applies)
eng_reg_prm_division_v12: Added Matches Won into Isthmian League sorting rules @ no.3
eng_reg_first_division_v14: Added Matches Won into Isthmian League sorting rules @ no.3
eng_reg_config_v7: Revised names of Southern Leagues and references
eng_reg_config_v7: Revised names of Northern Leagues and references
eng_reg_config_v7: Revised names of Isthmian Leagues and references
eng_reg_config_v7: Revised names of Southern League awards
eng_reg_prm_division_v13: Moved start of Southern Premier to 13/08/11 and end to 28/04/12 for 2011 season, plus amended play-off dates
eng_ref_first_division_v15: Moved start of Southern Div One to 13/08/11 and end to 28/04/12 for 2011 season, plus amended play-off dates
eng_v114: Added 2010 competition histories for Northern Premier League cups
eng_v114: Peter Swales Shield qualfiers = Premier Division Champion v Chairmans Cup Winner
eng_v114: Added 2010 competition histories for Isthmian League cups
eng_v114: Added 2010 competition histories for Southern League cups
eng_v115: Set runner up from Chairmans Cup to qualify to Peter Swales Sheild if other qualifyer is same team
eng_v116: Removed U14 regens
eng_v116: Added TV move date for FA Cup Extra Preliminary Round and some extra dates for first 3 rounds
eng_club_data_v3: Deleted failed club changes
eng_county_data_v2: Deleted failed club changes
eng_v117: Deleted Failed Club Changes
eng_v117: Moved Promoted L10 clubs to L9
eng_v118: Added Series Rule "Players Cup Tied If Not Signed Before First Match" to round default
eng_v119: Added fixture dates for FA Cup
eng_v119: Amended draw dates for FA Cup
eng_v119: Added Squad Registration Rules for L7&8
eng_v119: Changed Draw Date for first 3 round of the FA Cup
eng_fa_trophy_v9: Added fixture dates for FA Trophy
eng_fa_trophy_v9: Amended draw dates
eng_fa_trophy_v9: Changed Draw Date for first 2 rounds
eng_fa_trophy_v10: Added Series Rule "Players Cup Tied If Not Signed Before First Match" to round default
eng_fa_trophy_v11: Moved Final date to 19th May 2001 from 2012/2013 season
eng_reg_prm_division_v14: Deleted 2010 Fixtures and 2010 versions of leagues
eng_reg_first_division_v16: Deleted 2010 Fixtures and 2010 versions of leagues
eng_reg_first_division_v17: Removed break periods from League Schedule
eng_fa_trophy_v12: Enabled dynamic final dates from 2012/2013 season
eng_v120: Fixed incorrect base date year for 19th May FA Cup final
eng_v121: Removed squad registration and for L7 and 8, altered squad selection rules to remove duplication
eng_fa_trophy_v13: Added 'Fixture Dates' to Preliminary, 1st Qualifying, 2nd Qualifying, 3rd Qualifying and Final to avoid clashes with early FA Cup Rounds and FA Cup finals in even seasons
eng_reg_prm_division_v15: Fixed end dates for Southern League Premier Division for 2011 season
eng_reg_config_v8: Fixed names of Northern and Southern leagues
eng_reg_rivals_v1: Added missing rivals for all Levels 7 and 8 teams
eng_fa_trophy_v14: All qualifying rounds set as 'high domestic cup fixture priority'
eng_v122: All qualifying rounds set as 'high domestic cup fixture priority'
eng_v123: Renamed some cup names to the current sponsored name
eng_v123: Fixed issue where some cups loaded up when the game did not load down to the required level
eng_v123: Enabled the deferring of the Evo-Stik President's Cup for 1 season, meaning no cup in 2011/12 but works as normal from 2012/13

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Gripper @ SI

The place to post any data issues you may have with any level 7 and 8 clubs is as follows:

Isthmian League (Ryman) Data Issues thread

Southern League (Evo-Stik) Data Issues thread

Northern Premier League (Evo-Stik) Data Issues thread

Each of those leagues has a dedicated Head Researcher, who will consider all posts for any future data updates. Also, if you are interested in helping with the research for your local level 7/8 club, please let the Head Researcher know via either Private Message or a post in those threads. The level of data is only as good as the amount of quality support the Head Researchers get, as you would appreciate how difficult it is to get good data for all 60-something teams in each of the three regional set-ups.

On behalf of SI research team, I welcome uncle ron's work as a great addition to the FM portfolio.

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This database last year was amazing guys! its a shame you're not taking it further, but i will deffo download and have a saved game with it guys, good luck, How many weeks will it be after release will it be avaliable?

We may be taking it further.

We plan to perfect Levels 7 and 8 first and then see whether it could be taken further.

We'll only be able to confirm potential release once FM2012 is out as a lot of checking is needed within the new editor.

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I love this database due to the care and effort put into it. It really does feel like something that belongs in the game from the start, unlike most other databases which are just thrown together and fixed until they work and that's that.

Going to download this as soon as it's available.

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We may be taking it further.

We plan to perfect Levels 7 and 8 first and then see whether it could be taken further.

We'll only be able to confirm potential release once FM2012 is out as a lot of checking is needed within the new editor.

i hope to around too level 10. good luck with this ron and others, oh okay thats fair enough.

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Thank god this is still in the pipeline! Fantastic work last year getting everything as close to real life as possible! Personally I would stick to what you did levels wise. There is no need to go any further. I say this because I find most people end up getting promoted in levels 11 to 7 at Tue first attempts so would be pointless. Stick to level 8, don't fix what ain't broke!

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I can't imagine playing FM without this database anymore. I'm a big fan of FA Cup rebuilt to include Extra Preliminary, Preliminary and 1st Qualifying Rounds and FA Ground Grading Requirements implemented into the game and I know it can't be done without the advanced panels in the editor. All I really want is to have a bug free and stable databse in March 2012 after the 3rd patch when I will start a long-term save because that's what I do every year.

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Also a big fan of this database, if you could go one or two levels lower that would be amazing, but this is the database I always load for playing in England, even over some of the level 10/11/12 databses that are out there, simply for its high quality. Keep up the good work :)

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Quality takes priority over quantity, so just stick to Level 8 as this is the lowest level which includes real players for most of the teams. Thanks for providing us with one of the most solid FM11 databases Ron. KUTGW!

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Looking forward to this as this is the most professional DB in FM. I am still playing FM2011 version with Truro and have reached 2029 and still enjoying it. Will probably wait until this is released before buying 2012
Thank god this is still in the pipeline! Fantastic work last year getting everything as close to real life as possible! Personally I would stick to what you did levels wise. There is no need to go any further. I say this because I find most people end up getting promoted in levels 11 to 7 at Tue first attempts so would be pointless. Stick to level 8, don't fix what ain't broke!
Ron and the boys will no doubt produce an excellent database again.
I can't imagine playing FM without this database anymore. I'm a big fan of FA Cup rebuilt to include Extra Preliminary, Preliminary and 1st Qualifying Rounds and FA Ground Grading Requirements implemented into the game and I know it can't be done without the advanced panels in the editor. All I really want is to have a bug free and stable databse in March 2012 after the 3rd patch when I will start a long-term save because that's what I do every year.
Also a big fan of this database, if you could go one or two levels lower that would be amazing, but this is the database I always load for playing in England, even over some of the level 10/11/12 databses that are out there, simply for its high quality. Keep up the good work :)
Quality takes priority over quantity, so just stick to Level 8 as this is the lowest level which includes real players for most of the teams. Thanks for providing us with one of the most solid FM11 databases Ron. KUTGW!

Thanks for all your kind words about this project. I'm glad you have all enjoyed your previous FM saves with this League Update.

We will be concentrating on perfecting Levels 7 and 8 before even considering taking this any lower.

As for a potential release date, until the FM12 editor is released and we can check the compatibility of the existing data, we're unable to offer any specific dates.

All I can say is that as usual we'll take our time to get things working properly and tested before releasing. So for now continue to enjoy your FM11 saves.

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For anyone who has played with this update previously....

Are there any improvements, information missing or enhancements within Levels 7 and 8 that you would like to request for FM2012?

Not level 7&8 per se, but how about correct reserve and youth set-ups incorporated into your already excellent file?

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Hi guys, it's great to be working on this file again this year. I've been hard at work implementing all the league fixtures for every league since they were announced. Rest assured that once I release the activation for the Advanced Rules I will concentrate on releasing this file.

You can find more information about FMUpdates in the 2nd post. Come have a look around if you wish :)

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Sorry if this has been mentioned but will you be doing a version with the County's cup disabled? Havnt made up my mind if i want to be involved in these cups when im in the championship/prem (if i ever get there).

Thanks

See #28

The answer is yes

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The complete lack of info does suggest the editor won't be very different to the last one. Hopefully the problem with not being able to load up 2 league files will be solved. I'd love to combine uncle ron's file with a lower league Scottish file.

Assuming little difference, do you estimate 2 or 3 days, or 2 or 3 weeks?

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The complete lack of info does suggest the editor won't be very different to the last one. Hopefully the problem with not being able to load up 2 league files will be solved. I'd love to combine uncle ron's file with a lower league Scottish file.

Assuming little difference, do you estimate 2 or 3 days, or 2 or 3 weeks?

It'll be ready when it's ready.

Lots of things to check, plus Mr Magic needs toget the advanced panels working for FM2012.

Stay patient and you will be rewarded....

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Plus I'm working on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, so won't get as much time initially to work on this until the beginning of next week.

Rest assured I will assess the data as soon as I can and figure out what needs to be done. Until then, there's no point in speculating. It'll come out when it is ready :) and it will be great!

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Brilliant! As an AFC Totton fan I can't wait to download this! I'm new to FM so I don't really know anything about it or what you do with these updates. Are all the players and information on clubs correct? E.g. On FM this morning I go to AFC Totton and the players are all just random made up players and there is little or no information about the club in the 'Information' section. When you do these additions are all those sort of things correct?

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Brilliant! As an AFC Totton fan I can't wait to download this! I'm new to FM so I don't really know anything about it or what you do with these updates. Are all the players and information on clubs correct? E.g. On FM this morning I go to AFC Totton and the players are all just random made up players and there is little or no information about the club in the 'Information' section. When you do these additions are all those sort of things correct?

Off-topic, so apologise.

If you are interested in improving AFC Totton data for any official SI releases in future, please let me know and I'll put you in touch with the Head Researcher for the Southern League.

Interruption over, back to waiting for uncle ron's inevitably superb update.

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