nacho Novo

Okay im sure you have all heard of Nacho Novo Being able to play for scotland if he can get a british passport so why is this not in the game >_< ???

If he gets Scottish as a second nationality in your game then he'll be able to play for them.

ah he has but he still can't play lol

yeah i know all of that but second nationality scottish but there is still no option to call up lawl thanks for the help anyways ter =]

Nacho McNovo!

I love the wee man, but he'll never play for Scotland.

What a joke it is to let foreigners play for other countries, we might aswell just scrap international football and have some sort of united league competition instead. I dont care if Novo lives in scotland for the next 100 years he will never be scottish, and Almunia will never be english, rediculous.

What a joke it is to let foreigners play for other countries, we might aswell just scrap international football and have some sort of united league competition instead. I dont care if Novo lives in scotland for the next 100 years he will never be scottish, and Almunia will never be english, rediculous.

And on that mentalily...

Richards, Cole, SWP, Heskey etc...

Half of france?

And so on.

And on that mentalily...

Richards, Cole, SWP, Heskey etc...

Half of france?

And so on.

half of france yes, alot of them are african.

but richards, cole, swp, and heskey are all english, born in england

yeah i think the rule is stupid and if i was a player like ross mccormack or steven fletcher and nacho novo comes in and takes my place in the team , then id be a little ****ed off.

Like Kris boyd ?

yeah i think the rule is stupid and if i was a player like ross mccormack or steven fletcher and nacho novo comes in and takes my place in the team , then id be a little ****ed off.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uORAyORWRAA

nacho mcnovo. who'd've thunk hey?

And on that mentalily...

Richards, Cole, SWP, Heskey etc...

Half of france?

And so on.

Missing the point and worryingly racist. These guys might be black but they're English-born. Novo, Almunia etc would qualify only on residency grounds, having applied for citizenship.

As for the France issue, it's a thorny subject. The majority of the players in question were either born in the French DOM/TOMs (Thierry Henry, for instance, was born in Martinique) where both the French and Martiniquais national teams have a claim to him (but France got him first, for obvious reasons), or in former French colonies like Senegal or Algeria (Patrick Vieira born in Dakar, Zidane descended from Algeria) where nationality could be disputed. Even David Trezeguet is of Argentine lineage! In any case, this situation is totally different, in particular from the England players you mentioned, and still from the Novo/Almunia point. The players being selected by France have, by and large, lived in france either their entire lives (second-, third- etc generation immigrants) or certainly since childhood, and therefore probably should be considered French. Novo and Almunia would only qualify for citizenship on the grounds of having worked abroad in this country for five years during their adulthood. To allow this sort of thing in International football would be a mockery.

As being a scottish citizen i wouldn't mind novo playing i think he would be a amazing boost to scotland =/

john barnes. jamaican born and bred

I win

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And on that mentalily...

Richards, Cole, SWP, Heskey etc...

Half of france?

And so on.

*Slaps you in face with glove*

*Decides that's not enough and beats you down*

Racists GTFO

I wonder if it is possible for players in this circumstance to set them as having declared for a country, but unavailable for selection until they gain nationality.

This is possible, I have played a number of players for Scotland who aren't Scottish. It is also possible for a player to declare for a nation.

BTW for all those people who are slamming Scotland for considering Novo, I don't remember too many people complaining about the Republic Of Ireland in the 90's/early 00's, in fact they were a much loved team despite being an English B team.

I guess its normal you know cause football goes that way you know nacho novo is a good one if scotland wants him and he wants scotland than why not?

I guess its normal you know cause football goes that way you know nacho novo is a good one if scotland wants him and he wants scotland than why not?

because he isn't scottish?

lots of players wont play for any country except their own country, even if their 2nd nationality want them- matter of principle!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uORAyORWRAA

thanks for that

I can never remember whether you become inelligible to play for another country if your called up to your own squad or whether you have to actually play

I WANT FM09 NOOOWOWOWWWW!!

I'm sorry I couldn't contain myself. Forgot what I meant to say...

I can never remember whether you become inelligible to play for another country if your called up to your own squad or whether you have to actually play

You have to play for the full 'A' squad in a FIFA sactioned match. An example is Adu who played only a couple of minutes or something, but got away with it because it wasn't an official match so he can still play for Ghana.

At least that's how I remember it.

You have to play for the full 'A' squad in a FIFA sactioned match. An example is Adu who played only a couple of minutes or something, but got away with it because it wasn't an official match so he can still play for Ghana.

At least that's how I remember it.

Cheers bud

he could play for them but he won't in FM09 if i am manager and if I can get Boyd back he will play

I'd rather have Novo

hope you die in your sleep nacho novo

I managed to get Papac to become a Scottish citizen in my last game with Rangers, just a pitty he was about 32 and has already played dozens of times for Bosnia (i think thats his country anyway)

"BrianQuinn FTQ"

Care to explain FTQ?

"hope you die in your sleep nacho novo"

bye.

because he isn't scottish?

maybe he feels he is it now?

hope you die in your sleep nacho novo

Hope you get banned, you little ****ant.

maybe he feels he is it now?

Which is what the problem is. I could go live in pakistan for the rest of my life, i would never be pakistani it's that simple.

you wouldnt tho would you, move to pakistan

"BrianQuinn FTQ"

Care to explain FTQ?

How that is allowed on here I dont know. We all know what it means.

How that is allowed on here I dont know. We all know what it means.

No.

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No.

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niether do i but when it comes to acronyms im clueless. MUFC

Perhaps its because we get subjected to it all the time by Celtic supporters but...

FTQ stands for...

f*** the Queen.

And "i hope you die in your sleep Nacho Novo" is a song sung by Celtic fans advocating that IRA gunmen should execute him.

Greatest fans in the world mind.... *sigh*

National identity and patriotism is a joke anyway, so is race and ethnicity.

National identity and patriotism are based on perceived similarities between people of the same country for example. That's not real and everybody knows it. You lead very different lifestyles and have very different beliefs to your neighbours and also to the people in the neighbouring neighbourhood and neighbouring cities and even what the statistics people tell you are the "average" lifestyles people in your country lead. As soon as this illusion disappears, all sense of National identity is gone, and along with that, patriotism.

Race and ethnicity is a joke because nobody even knows the exact definition of it. There can be a million ways to explain what they mean. Race generally means your country and ethnicity generally means your heritage, but these can get mixed up so much you would have examples that don't even make sense if you stick to a rigid definition of the two concepts.

International matches should be taken for fun rather than a thing of national pride, or even completely taken away, as highlighting difference in races only promotes racism (where is the racism when there is no such thing as race?), as we have seen here. I don't even mean the blatant racism we usually see where loud idiots proclaim their country's superiority and mock other's inferiority. I'm talking about a more sinister kind, the kind where they don't say it out loud so you can't do anything about it but you know it's still there.

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Back on topic, yeah I got him to play for Scotland (he did well), but it is hard when players don't like being nationalised for another country. I hope that it will be easier in FM09 to ask players (or they are better at realising when they need it) to get a different citizenship. The only time the players seem to get it is when they are super young and have just come back from a feeder they are more likely to take that citizenship!

It makes me laugh, all those scotland fans who abuse Aiden McGeady and James McCarthy for choosing The Republic of Ireland to play national football, because they are decendants, ie their grandparents are Irish.

They say that McCarthy and McGeady are bigots, for using Scottish Schools, hospitals etc, and choosing to play football for another country. And that they are using the fact that they are Catholics, and stating this is the ONLY reason for the choosing to do such a thing and play for The Republic, due to Scotland being a majority Protestant nation???? (Yeah Right) and turning their back on their "TRUE" country.

Although now on the other hand Ratcho Novo, has decided he's never going to be good enough to play for his Country so he might as well try his hand with scotland, and thats acceptable. So from the same point of view as McGeady and McCarthy being "turncoats" as they put it, why isnt Novo being tarred with the same brush? Surely him being a Catholic and turning his back on a Catholic nation to play for a so called Protestant nation is also secterian?? No??

Nacho McNovo.

Take your talk of bigotry and sectarianism elsewhere eh.

The Old Firm (Ugly Sisters) are truly an embarrasment.

Why talk about it elsewhere?

Brush it under the carpet? Pretend it doesnt exist, sorry mate we can't? Its in our everyday lives!

The Old Firm? No Guilt by association.

On the same hand, keep your views to yourself???

:confused:

I thought the topic was whether Novo should play for Scotland or not.

But its been steered down the "they said that and thats far worser than wot we would've said so it is and that no"

Boring.

So its a discussion forum right?

Sometimes, the point can change, and still be on topic

Look once a great men says it doesnt make a difference where you are born aslong yes you live and feel connected to the palce where ever you live.

About the rangers and celtic booth plçay for scotland both are sons of the same father so who cares if one is blue and the other is green. Football is fun not a war zone.

In football manager i also coach teams that i am not fan of because its a game its fun to play its not a reality. I have a friend that accused also to coach rival teams but i told him that its a game and in real life we all are humans for good sake.

Football its a lovely sport with emotion fun you win you lose thats the game lets keep it fair and clear from all the dark arround. We are the fans we are the once that love and are abnle to change the game how its was once. A family event with fun a and sportmenship.

I wish you all a nice weekend full of fun cause its football day mates;)

Maybe you cannot call him up because he doesn't want to play for Scotland? In one of my games Ever Banega got a Spanish passport because he was at Valencia for a few years. I was the Spain manager and I couldn't call him up, I checked his personnel section and under 'General Happiness' is said something like he wants to play for Argentina .