someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I only started playing the game a couple of seasons before the FM switch. Is there many faetures that have been in the game in the past that are not there now? I heard that audio commentary was once in the game, only it didn't really work, I can imagine why. Unless the features are terrible, surely its better to add every year and build on what you alredy have? Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Audio Commentary? I've never seen that before. Cheats, if you can call it a feature. Like the ARSE thing, that's gone. Also, i forget which version, but if you used Bobby Robson (I think) as your name, there would be a leg break in the opposition team every game. I think. It was a pretty old version of CM i believe. Something along those lines any way. I'm sure someone will correct me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 There was indeed audio commentary at one time. That's going back to before the FM series, though. I remember when you couldn't manage a nation from the start unless you used some cheat whereby you had to call yourself the name of the current manager of that nation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFW Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Didn't Clive Tildsley (probably spelt wrong) do some commentary? Although that could have been just in my head. Or a different game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 what about tactical options? Was there ever some that that got taken out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFW Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 what about tactical options? Was there ever some that that got taken out? Wibble Wobble.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 There were the wibble-wobble screens that some people want back in the game. thes let you set exactly where you want a player to be when the team has the ball and when they don't. SI took it out as it was unrealistic to go in that much detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfraser Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 what about tactical options? Was there ever some that that got taken out? There used to be with/without ball screens (wibble wobble), but not any more since CM4, IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Duffy Posted September 4, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted September 4, 2008 Didn't Clive Tildsley (probably spelt wrong) do some commentary? Although that could have been just in my head. Or a different game. It was in CM2 I believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpico Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 It was in CM2 I believe Yep. And it was blooming awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDoul Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 It was in CM2 I believe ....and was next to useless on account of not being visible via the extravagant medium of text commentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 There were the wibble-wobble screens that some people want back in the game. thes let you set exactly where you want a player to be when the team has the ball and when they don't. SI took it out as it was unrealistic to go in that much detail. Thats not a bad idea though is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 Whwn I was really young I played Alex Fergusons player manager on the PS1. It had a set piece editor where you could intruct, on a chalkboard, player positions and runs. The thing is it actually worked!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man U King Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 there used to be scout videos didn't there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paoloboy Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Finishing used to be Shooting. I'd prefer it to be Finishing -> Shot accuracy and Long shots -> Shot power. Finishing should consist of many things eg. Shot accuracy and composure etc. not just one mysterious Finishing attribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headland Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 everyone is going on bout the new 3d but im sure prem manager 99 used to have it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 Whwn I was really young I played Alex Fergusons player manager on the PS1. It had a set piece editor where you could intruct, on a chalkboard, player positions and runs. The thing is it actually worked!!! Anyone else ever play this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man U King Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Anyone else ever play this? I got it in my bed room somewere:thup: when agents use to offer you players was good giggs always used to run the ball out for some reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 I got it in my bed room somewere:thup:when agents use to offer you players was good giggs always used to run the ball out for some reason Classic Yeah the agents, "you have been approached by an agent offering you a rare exotic talent" or something like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man U King Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Classic Yeah the agents, "you have been approached by an agent offering you a rare exotic talent" or something like that spot on I may have to dig it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFW Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Classic Yeah the agents, "you have been approached by an agent offering you a rare exotic talent" or something like that Sounds like what happened at West Ham with Tevez and Mascherano! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khriztian Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Agents aproaching you with "tapes" of a talent"?" . By tapes I mean a video of a play on the match engine. I think it was back in cm03/04. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssestig Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 my managerial talent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxiteles Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I remember in '93, there was neither finishing nor shooting but only something like "goalscoring efficiency". Though I think this bit was a little off topic. On topic: In former versions, it was possible to buy "buying rights" of a player. It was like gaining rigths to a preset price and a first buy option after a certain date in exchange of money. Last thing: I really really miss wibble wobble Last last thing: I do not remember if fact or superstition, but the GK attribute "one on ones" also applied for outfield players. I remember buying strikers with high "one on ones" (I had to use the GK attributes view in the player search screen because it was impossible to see otherwise for outfield players) in 03/04. I also remember doing this secretly so that my friends in our LAN game would not discover this and only I bought strikers with perfect finishing in "one on one" positions. My favorite player was an obscure 33 year old Italian serie c striker called Mirko Gubellini. His other stats were awful but scored a hell lot of goals for my champion side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therubberducky Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Training schedules where you could make pretty specific training regimes, far more detailed than it is now. It was a hassle though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 This "wibble wobble" thing sounds decent. What happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptr Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The 'wibble wobble' was just a bit silly in my opinion. IRL you can't say to your players "this is how I want you to line up when the ball is in this particular 1/9th of the pitch" because it depends entirely on whether your team has just lost posession, is dealing with a long-ball, and most importantly, what the opposition team are doing! On topic, on the original CM IIRC - you went into a live auction with a number of other teams when you wanted to bid for a player. Then whichever teams stumped up enough cash went on to another auction for the player wages - whoever won the wage-auction got the player. It was a very long time ago, so my memory may not be entirely accurate, but I remember it being quite exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jqmota Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Audio Commentary? I've never seen that before.Cheats, if you can call it a feature. Like the ARSE thing, that's gone. Also, i forget which version, but if you used Bobby Robson (I think) as your name, there would be a leg break in the opposition team every game. I think. It was a pretty old version of CM i believe. Something along those lines any way. I'm sure someone will correct me. It's usually quite hard to see audio commentary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 things i remember from older versions that arent around anymore- 1. manager personalities. when sorting out your name, age, etc at the beginning you could choose a personality for yourself. ranging from 'withdrawn' to 'confident'. the players also had a personality and if yours didnt match with the players they disliked you. 2. killer tactics. you could play virtually 5 strikers upfront and choose the 'long ball' tactic and youd end up thrashing teams 6-1 or 7-2. a personal favourite of mine. 3. no players would turn you down if you were a small club. if you had the money to buy them and could afford their wage demands theyd come. 4. i think somebody else has mentioned it but leg breaks. when a player had done it hed be out for 6 months and would never play as well again when he returned from injury. gutting really. 5. the player descriptions in the manual. the first italian league version came out seperately in the early ninetys and it had a very comprehensive player description section in the manual covering a large number of players in seria b to help you manage in the lower league. it was great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 First option, but i dont think this is allowed anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davestu Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I used to love the Audio Commentary. Each game used to take forever, but me an my Dad would busy ourselves DIY'ing or something while it went on. That was CM2 There used to be cheat whereby if you offered enough money for a player that the bid was accepted immediately (without having to wait at all, which come to think of it is another feature no longer present!) you could go back and adjust it to £0 and you would get the player for free. That was CM2 as well. In the CMI you used to go a live wage auction and you had 3 attempts to get the best offer. Original "Diablo's" were 4-2-4 and 4-1-2-1-2. Oh i heard a rumor that the Collyer's were inspired to create the game partially by a PBM called Necom Games League Soccer that they played. I also used to play this game in the late 80's early 90's and returned for nostalgic purposes in 2005. Have always wondered if this was true???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Whelans Socks Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 They need to bring back the complain about a ref option. It never usualy worked but when it did it was pretty damn funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_returner Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Matches being postponed because of the weather. It made lower league management much more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridcully Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I seem to remember in some of the early CM versions you could insure your players so their wages were paid if they got injured & the cost of sending to the specialist was also covered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_lad Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The with/without the ball tactics screen is by far and away the thing I miss most from previous editions of FM (well, CM but you know what I mean!). It gave your tactics that extra dimension. Currently your tactics are limited to a rigid 4-4-2 or whichever tactic you use without a real ability to adapt instantly to when your team loses the ball. By using the with/without ball screen you are able to position your players to adapt to the conditions, i.e. when your defending in your own half, one of your strikers is able to drop back to form a 5 man midfield, but when you get the ball back an additional midfielder is able to work as an extra striker etc. These types of instances I feel will be worked on on training grounds on a daily basis and think it would be great to see this aspect of the tactics returning if not now then for FM2010. If not, I'll just have to keep dreaming of my true tactic tinkering days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 This "wibble wobble" thing sounds decent. What happened? There were huge discussions on these boards about it. Numerous threads, really numerous... And apparently SI were convinced by those who said that it was a bad thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 You could exit the game without saving by pressing * in the first CM's iirc. Though it wasn't really a cheat I considered it to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitz9O Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 One of the newest things to have come and gone from FM is the farrows/sarrows/barrows from 2008. Good job two, it made some very exploiting unconventional tactics. __________________ FML Moderator FML Blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccircle Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The 'wibble wobble' was just a bit silly in my opinion. IRL you can't say to your players "this is how I want you to line up when the ball is in this particular 1/9th of the pitch" because it depends entirely on whether your team has just lost posession, is dealing with a long-ball, and most importantly, what the opposition team are doing!On topic, on the original CM IIRC - you went into a live auction with a number of other teams when you wanted to bid for a player. Then whichever teams stumped up enough cash went on to another auction for the player wages - whoever won the wage-auction got the player. It was a very long time ago, so my memory may not be entirely accurate, but I remember it being quite exciting. Auction - if you outbid by £1 on the third and last bid you would win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccircle Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Also, to prevent piracy you had to enter a code on the start up screen which was found in the instructions. From memory every page in the instructions had 5 results (2-1, 1-1 etc) and it would say Pg12 Result 3 - you then had to enter a score Might have been repeated with attendances in a later edition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydfc4ever Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 there used to be a pull-out which stated the rules of each leauge (subs, foreign players etc) i used to have pinned to the wall behind my computer for constant reference. it was that sheet that made me play my first game outside of England! (I went to Brazil to try their leagues) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 There were some nice team statistics in one of the CM versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydfc4ever Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 oh, and the asterix next to the 3 best players in a squad. helped me decide who to try and steal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazars Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 oh, and the asterix next to the 3 best players in a squad. helped me decide who to try and steal! I miss this feature, because while not necessarily the best 3 players, it did signify the 3 key players in that team. It also applied for International teams, which was great when you took over some random country, because you had an idea of who were the key players. Very handy for when you start as a manager or if you're looking to poach some targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandiar Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Audio Commentary? I've never seen that before. Surely you couldn't SEE audio commentary ever... :-> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandiar Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 They need to bring back the complain about a ref option. It never usualy worked but when it did it was pretty damn funny. I believe this was taken out at request of the Referees Association. Miles has talked about this, i think this time last year when discussing FM2008 features. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandiar Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I miss this feature, because while not necessarily the best 3 players, it did signify the 3 key players in that team. It also applied for International teams, which was great when you took over some random country, because you had an idea of who were the key players.Very handy for when you start as a manager or if you're looking to poach some targets. I remember this, it was extrememly useful and i'd like to see it back. Also, i liked when the Chairman would tell you that he'd like a big name signing to instill some excitement around the club. I think that was FM07? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nehpets81 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 oh, and the asterix next to the 3 best players in a squad. helped me decide who to try and steal! That really takes me back! - It told you your "best" three players when you took over a new team too - guess this was the precurser to the ass man team report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Also, i liked when the Chairman would tell you that he'd like a big name signing to instill some excitement around the club. I think that was FM07? That's still there, I tried starting at Chelsea on a save and Abram signed 2 players because I hadn't spent the budget or brought anyone in that was a big enough name. That was the end of that save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Printing the fixtures in a HTML or notebook file, you can see the scorers, away or home, attendance, etc etc I want that back!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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