pret Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ahead of a proposed move to Liverpool, I'm wondering how many of his attributes will be changed. Let's face it, he's hardly the player on FM that he is IRL. He's never had an average rating of 7 after a season in the Premier League and I'm in 2017, and the best club he's played for is Sheffield United. Basically I'm wondering what will happen to him in the next update of FM because no way is he good enough to play for Liverpool as he as at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRobbo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Unless the Newcastle researcher has already changed him, none will be changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 and why should he, as of yet he is relatively unproven at this level, good half a season so far but until he proves himself for a few years consistantly i cant see his stats jumping much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotshotUK Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Andy Carroll £35m? What a Joke!!!! I gonna get RID OF HIM in the summer!!! Thank you!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcormack Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 last seasons championship top scorers 1 Peter Whittingham Cardiff City 22 2 Nicky Maynard Bristol City 20 3 Gary Hooper Scunthorpe United 19 4 Charlie Adam Blackpool 18 5 Michael Chopra Cardiff City 18 6 Andy Carroll Newcastle United 17 7 Robert Earnshaw Nottingham Forest 17 8 Kevin Nolan Newcastle United 17 £35 million really? would you get that for any of these other players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 £35 million really? would you get that for any of these other players? How many of them would score a goal every other game for the first half the premier league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimi m Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 last seasons championship top scorers1 Peter Whittingham Cardiff City 22 2 Nicky Maynard Bristol City 20 3 Gary Hooper Scunthorpe United 19 4 Charlie Adam Blackpool 18 5 Michael Chopra Cardiff City 18 6 Andy Carroll Newcastle United 17 7 Robert Earnshaw Nottingham Forest 17 8 Kevin Nolan Newcastle United 17 £35 million really? would you get that for any of these other players? Yes, but he was only 18,19 last year thats a pretty good tally for a teenager,,but hes definately not worth 35 mill maybe 20 at most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pret Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Remember he is very young, so it's an investment, plus, he's english, hence, inflated price tag, (Bent anyone?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yes, but he was only 18,19 last year thats a pretty good tally for a teenager,,but hes definately not worth 35 mill maybe 20 at most. No, he was not a teenager last season. he was 20 at the start of the season, and turned 21 during it. All players are re-evaluated during January based on their improvement/regression since the last update. Carroll will have been re-evaluated by the Newcastle researcher already, and all that will change as a direct result of the transfer will be that he will be at Liverpool rather than Newcastle (oh, and wages) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboLad Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ahead of a proposed move to Liverpool, I'm wondering how many of his attributes will be changed. Let's face it, he's hardly the player on FM that he is IRL. He's never had an average rating of 7 after a season in the Premier League and I'm in 2017, and the best club he's played for is Sheffield United. Basically I'm wondering what will happen to him in the next update of FM because no way is he good enough to play for Liverpool as he as at the moment. He's already pretty decent if you play him right. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6852/01312011194704.jpg Thats him at Liverpool after I bought him for 13 million earlier tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Perfect Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 £13m is a far more realistic fee for Carroll. Thankfully he has improved immensely since his half season on loan at Preston. He was rubbish, scored once and had no positional sense. Or workrate. Or right foot. Or left foot. Or aerial ability. I kid you not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Liverpool is gay. They could sign Sergio Agüero if they pay 45M €. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbert_o154 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I do hope by that you mean they're happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Liverpool is gay. They could sign Sergio Agüero if they pay 45M €. Why's that then hes just signed another 2 year contract extension today taking his contract till 2016 so he obviously dose't want to move :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why's that then hes just signed another 2 year contract extension today taking his contract till 2016 so he obviously dose't want to move :confused: Are you sure ? Atletico Chairman Erneste Cerezo today said that we will sell Agüero who pay 45M € , even Real Madrid. He just signed new contract at 5.1.2011 , I don't think it's possible that he signed a new contract today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Are you sure ? Atletico Chairman Erneste Cerezo today said that we will sell Agüero who pay 45M € , even Real Madrid. He just signed new contract at 5.1.2011 , I don't think it's possible that he signed a new contract today. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_6714122,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_6714122,00.html http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/01/31/2330989/sergio-aguero-can-leave-if-a-club-pays-the-right-price and yes, I checked from Atleti's official website, He extended his contact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/01/31/2330989/sergio-aguero-can-leave-if-a-club-pays-the-right-priceand yes, I checked from Atleti's official website, He extended his contact. There you go then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuhrerul Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 shouldn't this go in the data issues forum? if we make a thread for every player that moved clubs this winter................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can I raise an angry complaint now just in case he is given a ridiculous 'big club' bump up in stats in the new patch? He's VERY slow, has NO acceleration, is very weak in the air given his size, his finishing isn't that special. All in all he's barely good enough for the Premier League. If he turns into a 'CA 165/PA 180' type player with superb stats it's wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 There you go then anyway, I definetely would sign him ; I am pretty sure that he would accept an offer from Liverpool. Ernesto Cerezo cares money, Agüero needs a bigger club but he is too loyal to say that. Nevertheless, in my opinion, he will leave after this season , he signed a contract because he wants to make money for Atletico. Otherwise, like mesut özil case, a team could get him in bargain since it would be the last year of contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can I raise an angry complaint now just in case he is given a ridiculous 'big club' bump up in stats in the new patch?He's VERY slow, has NO acceleration, is very weak in the air given his size, his finishing isn't that special. All in all he's barely good enough for the Premier League. If he turns into a 'CA 165/PA 180' type player with superb stats it's wrong. Mmm i dont think hes worth 35 million granted but i think your opinion is abit harsh on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 anyway, I definetely would sign him ; I am pretty sure that he would accept an offer from Liverpool. Ernesto Cerezo cares money, Agüero needs a bigger club but he is too loyal to say that. Nevertheless, in my opinion, he will leave after this season , he signed a contract because he wants to make money for Atletico. Otherwise, like mesut özil case, a team could get him in bargain since it would be the last year of contract. Well if madrid chairman wanted money why did they reject 38 million off tottenham yesterday ?? plus his minimum fee as been lowerd aswell today as part of his new deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can I raise an angry complaint now just in case he is given a ridiculous 'big club' bump up in stats in the new patch?He's VERY slow, has NO acceleration, is very weak in the air given his size, his finishing isn't that special. All in all he's barely good enough for the Premier League. If he turns into a 'CA 165/PA 180' type player with superb stats it's wrong. Definitely agree with you, price shouldn't encourage SI to give him greate stats. a PA over 170 for him would be a huge mistake. Premier League Clubs pay too much money especially players those play in premier league. For instance James Milner , Darren Bent to Tottenham , Robbie Keane to Liverpool , they were all stupid fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Well if madrid chairman wanted money why did they reject 38 million off tottenham yesterday ?? plus his minimum fee as been lowerd aswell today as part of his new deal He wants 45M €. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He wants 45M €. Well you said chairman cares about money 45 million euro's is about 42 million is't it only 4 million off so he cant be that botherd and im sure he would't be offering agureo another 2 years on top of his current contract if he was desperate to get rid of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Well you said chairman cares about money 45 million euro's is about 42 million is't it only 4 million off so he cant be that botherd and im sure he would't be offering agureo another 2 years on top of his current contract if he was desperate to get rid of him There is no official announcement that tottenham really made an offer for agüero. Beside reddknapp refused that they are interested in agüero. They made an offer for Forlan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 There is no official announcement that tottenham really made an offer for agüero. Beside reddknapp refused that they are interested in agüero. They made an offer for Forlan. Well regardless if its true or not hes signed a 2 year exstension which was offerd to him by chairman obviously so he cant want rid that much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'm a Liverpool fan living in the north of the North East, so I do watch a lot of Newcastle games. I would say his stats a pretty much spot on in the 11.2 database. He's very good in the air, his finish and composure aren't fantastic but not bad. Only thing I can think of that is maybe a little bit off is his work rate, he normally puts a very good shift in, maybe an increase of 1 in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Well regardless if its true or not hes signed a 2 year exstension which was offerd to him by chairman obviously so he cant want rid that much I wanna ask that why he is waited the last hours of transfer session to extend his contract ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I wanna ask that why he is waited the last hours of transfer session to extend his contract ? Not exactly last hours he signed his new contract early this afternoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Cool Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 In my game he scored 23 goals in 35 premier league games for AI controlled Newcastle in the 10/11 season. And is currently on 10 goals after 19 premier league games in february of the 11/12 season. Seems about right to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Not exactly last hours he signed his new contract early this afternoon Come on man, no need to play with words There's an idea behind that, I just wanna point out that. Sorry if I offended you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Come on man, no need to play with words There's an idea behind that, I just wanna point out that. Sorry if I offended you. You did't affend me lol nice friendly debate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpoolfan Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I wasn't going to start my game again but i am going to now, i don't want Torres in my side, I don't agree with the Carroll fee 35m is way too much, but i hope he proves the price tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 In my game he scored 23 goals in 35 premier league games for AI controlled Newcastle in the 10/11 season. And is currently on 10 goals after 19 premier league games in february of the 11/12 season. Seems about right to me. WTH is wrong with him in my game? 10/11 - 3 goals in 26 games (newcastle relegated) 11/12 - 7 goals in 18 games (at arsenal) 12/13 - 6 goals in 25 games 13/14 - 1 goal in 4 games 14/15 - 5 goals in 20 games (at liverpool, oddly enough) total transfer cost - £12.5million, and with those stats he aint worth even that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTkaN Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 You did't affend me lol nice friendly debate Agüero made a statement two or three years ago and said exactly that : "I will never play for a club that its name start with R letter." ( He implied River Plate and Real Madrid ) As an Atletico Fan, I would wanna see him at Liverpool rather than Real Madrid or Barcelona ; this is why I am insisted on this thread Moreover, until now , in all champions league victories since fm 2007 , agüero was at my side. To say, I don't wanna start the game with a superior team like Real Madrid and Barça. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'm almost certain he was getting an upgrade in any case, regardless of a £40million transfer. and since it will be the newcastle researcher, he'll get a fair deal Mind you the liverpool researcher would also be as fair and objective as poss. That's the way they work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Definitely agree with you, price shouldn't encourage SI to give him greate stats. SI don't give stats. Researchers do and, although a very few researchers are SI employees, most of us are not, and although we have guidelines within which to rate players, our opinions are trusted within those guidelines. The Newcastle researcher will already have re-evaluated Carroll based on his performances for them, and the Liverpool researcher will do likewise in the summer once he has seen Carroll for a few months himself. The ratings will have nothing to do with his transfer fee or who he plays for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merdain Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 the stats are going to have to be amended, if he has the same stats as 11.2 he will probably become a squad rotation player at best then after the first season get sold for a few million. the bigger news will be if any stat changes are made to torres, based on his inconsistent season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 the stats are going to have to be amended, if he has the same stats as 11.2 he will probably become a squad rotation player at best then after the first season get sold for a few million. The Newcastle researcher will already have re-evaluated Carroll based on his performances for them, and the Liverpool researcher will do likewise in the summer once he has seen Carroll for a few months himself. The ratings will have nothing to do with his transfer fee or who he plays for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can I raise an angry complaint now just in case he is given a ridiculous 'big club' bump up in stats in the new patch?He's VERY slow, has NO acceleration, is very weak in the air given his size, his finishing isn't that special. All in all he's barely good enough for the Premier League. If he turns into a 'CA 165/PA 180' type player with superb stats it's wrong. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with regards to his aerial ability, and he isn't as slow as you're making out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDan! Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with regards to his aerial ability, and he isn't as slow as you're making out. Seen him live, he's actually surprisingly faster than some people think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Chris, the NUFC researcher is a very good researcher and won't go over the top with anything. He doesn't get carried away and is very realistic. Do not expect to see big differences in his attributes. He might get a PA rise, but hopefully that'll be about right. There's nothing wrong with him in terms of attributes on 11.2. He can perform very well and sometimes under AI control he can be a 1 in 2 player, which is realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisW Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He still has not signed for liverpool yet, maybe minutes though ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He as now 5 year deal not sure what wage hes on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He still has not signed for liverpool yet, maybe minutes though ;-) He has signed until 2016 and has been given No. 9. http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyglossop Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 no way he is going to replace torres in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknufc Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Newcastle have sold xisco and carrol if we sell james pearch and lovenkrands were defo relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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