Sad Git Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Would you like to keep the current slider system in FM? Choose your option:- 21 - (I like the sliders!) 20 - (Me too!) 19 - 18 - 17 - 16 - 15 - 14 - 13 - 12 - (I'm not sure) 11 - 10 - (is this the average?) 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - (I like them slightly less than the option above) 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 - (Please please return to the old system...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm generally Number 12 about how to reply to your post :confused: My general opinion about the sliders is that the number of notched could be reduced but i wouldn't want them to dissapear altogether. So maybe around 13/14 on your scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Do you want us to post a number of the level our happiness with the sliders based on your scale? If that is what you mean then I am at 15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trux Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 21 but thats not to say that I wouldn't like a different system. Its just my little brain can't think of an alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Sliders: Murder Death Kill. Excessive Boggle. Happy ~Happy~ Joy Joy Feelings. :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
This field intentionally l Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 How can anyone respond to your poll? wwwfan hasn't published the 2342 page pdf file that explains the options yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Strange Poll this is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 11 - keep them but fewer numbers to simplify them, thus more in line with how a manager would prepare the team tactically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsgouro Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The guy simply makes a sarcastic "poll", to point out the ridiculously high ammound of slider possitions we need to tweak in order to built a tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamfai Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 yes ONLY IF THE NUMBER IS SHOWING. Lazy to count!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 How can anyone respond to your poll? wwwfan hasn't published the 2342 page pdf file that explains the options yet. :D:D That had me fishing shreddies out my keypad .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ljuba82 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Godd point for those who can figure.... Big 1 for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Git Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 What I was trying to say in an ironic way (sheesh! some people wouldn't get irony if you shoved a 6-foot iron bar up their bums) was:- what was wrong with the old system? All you did was select the option you wanted from a tab and everything was clear and intuitive:- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I quite liked it Sarcasm can get a bit lost here at times though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm about a 13, but depending on the situation I pause to think, and it may rise to 15 or drop to 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigman1985 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 sad git, i think that should be an option and sliders maybe reduce the numbers on the slider? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBamber Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Thought I'd make my comment about the sliders in this thread. The thing I want to add is that how many people really know what the sliders in their tactics mean? Do you think their are managers (IRL) up and down the country going - right team, I want to play short passing 6/20. What does is mean - whats the difference between 1 and 5 - they're both labelled 'short' - whats the difference. Similarly with the defensive line. The individual player tactics made more sense - long range shooting rarely, mixed or often. If your a manager (IRL again) - thats makes sense, if your talking to a midfielder you'd probably only say one of those three things. And to training. Even worse in my opinion. What on earth do the sliders mean. To the average user - no actually, to any user, its non understandable. The more experienced user may know how to manipulate those sliders into getting improved stats - but it doesn't strike of a "management experience". Does anyone on here really think that Sir Alex Ferguson goes into training on a monday and moves a few sliders around on a board and goes to his coaches "right - thats how I want you to manage Cristiano's training routine this week". For me, those along with the transfer system (overall this year to be fair - still has many problems but its on the right track) are the three key features on the game, and in my opinion, SI are getting two of them really wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trux Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 The mentality slider causes the most problems at least with people understanding it. Would be better if you could see a visual representation with the numbered shirts on the tactical screen. e.g when setting 1 of your strikers to a slightly deeper starting role you could see that for every lowered click of the mentality slider the shirt would move lower slightly to represent the change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromley Raven Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 The mentality slider causes the most problems at least with people understanding it.Would be better if you could see a visual representation with the numbered shirts on the tactical screen. e.g when setting 1 of your strikers to a slightly deeper starting role you could see that for every lowered click of the mentality slider the shirt would move lower slightly to represent the change. I agree that a visual representation would be good. I also think that the mentality slider does too much. There's no reason you couldn't separate it into two sliders: one for position on the pitch, and the other for how ambitious the passing is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncherdave Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Haha, great poll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I like the sliders, I just wish it was easier to understand what each of them do and how they interlink with other options in the tactical menu. The whole "Managers don't say do this 6/20" argument is a poor one imo, because there are no numbers represented in the game, its only us on here who have come to refer to them as numbers. If the team was set to play short passing, but you thought they were playing it a bit too short, you can knock it up a couple of notches. With the simple "Direct, Long" options, you can't do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrrier Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (sheesh! some people wouldn't get irony if you shoved a 6-foot iron bar up their bums) Isnt irony what my mum uses to press my jeans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromley Raven Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Something I don't like about the sliders is that they're labelled incorrectly. For example Mixed Passing doesn't mean Mixed. It means medium length. Similarly Closing Down Own Half doesn't mean close down in your own half. It means moderate closing down. Personally I would like a list of text options rather than sliders, and they should do what they say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 10 maybe, old system perhaps a little to retrictive, new system too complicated. What just occured to me recently is on the passing is why is mixed in the middle? surely the slider implies the general style of the passing from short passing to direct and long but mixed on the slider seems to imply mixed is between short and direct. Surely mixed passing is a combination of all three which is decided on by the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigman1985 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 i think ridding the sldier system would cause a big overhaul of the game, which si will have to do eventually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromley Raven Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 i think ridding the sldier system would cause a big overhaul of the game, which si will have to do eventually FM09 supposedly has a new match engine, rather than a modified version of FM08. Therefore they should have done it for FM09 if they were going to at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atonement Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Isnt irony what my mum uses to press my jeans? the ironing is delicious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I 'll choose 18. Depending on fresh and exciting ideas the opposition may come up with, I may tweak it to a lower value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'd say about a 16 is good needs improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMUFC08 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 im about 14 because i like them but if you change one then it also effects another and youve got to change so much as to what on older versions would be a reletively small and simple change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzetLeicester Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I would like a visual discription for each notch...whats the difference to short passing 1 and 3? I don't know because they both say short. Mentality is a joke you should have... Ultra-Defensive Defensive Fairly Defensive Neutral Fairly Attackive Attackive All-Out Attack Thats seven options to choose from, not however much there currently is (ie: way too much). It is also much, much, much easier to decipher. I want to play an attackive style but want of my 2 strikers to drop in the whole, whilst the other to be on the last man...then I will choose Fairly Attacking and All-Out Attack respectively. Want one attack minded CM and one defense minded CM in neither an attackive or defensive style (IE: Neutral)...Fairly Attackive and Fairly Defensive respectively. As it stand right now, the tactics screens is in desperate need of an overhaul. Way too complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigman1985 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 attackive? attacking will do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeves Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 pff, 1. the whole system needs an overhall, not just ridding us of the rubbish sliders. They should hire Rijkaard to tell them how do it while he's still out of work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzydeepy Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I am probably a 14 - The sliders can be confusing but there are little/no better alternatives to be honest. And btw Sad git - wouldn't have been easier to have done a proper poll on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 14, I'll live with them, but ain't a massive fan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko An. Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am probably a 14 - The sliders can be confusing but there are little/no better alternatives to be honest. And btw Sad git - wouldn't have been easier to have done a proper poll on this? Like someone else said before, you people really don't get the point of the poll. It's the same as the sliders system. I can say, for me, that the sliders ruined the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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