Dennis_Ajax Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I remembered I donated 60 euro's back in 2109 to be part of the alpha testing of FM20. It's mid summer 20 now, my question is: is it playable or do I need to wait for a new developer team who will take care of the FM engine in the future? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcaine100 Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 Nope its still not playable, its a inconsistent, illogical and frustrating mess. After playing non stop for 15 years i just cant get any fun out of it anymore, just makes no sense and have no sense of control. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 If you already own the game why not play it and discover your own opinion of it? Playable tends to have such an open ended meaning that if you switch it to just the more generic gaming term then yes its been perfectly playable all along. Is it playable for @Dennis_Ajax? Well that's probably only a question you can answer. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray27 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I am enjoying this version to be fair, had been on fm15 for 5 years before and can now not go back to that, I admit some weird things happen during games and player interactions can be weird but I just put that down to being a game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I play it a lot, so it obviously has entertainment value, but it also frustrates me. You have to ignore a couple of things that if you focus too much on them will actually suck the fun out of the experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Yes, but you have to ignore a few ME annoyances. There are no (or very unlikely to occur) gamebreaking bugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Travis Bickle said: Yes, but you have to ignore a few ME annoyances. There are no (or very unlikely to occur) gamebreaking bugs. This 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I think he was interested to know if the ME was enjoyable or not, rather than being warned about technical issues. To be honest, it all depends on the attention we put on it and what kind of weight we give to those "annoyances". In example for me 1v1 missed are incredibly frustrating and gamebraking, as much as offsides broken or defensive set piece routines not executed as instructed. At the same time I'm curious to know what pushes the OP to think that a different dev team would make a better ME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Travis Bickle said: Yes, but you have to ignore a few ME annoyances. There are no (or very unlikely to occur) gamebreaking bugs. No gamebreaking bugs? What about the broken code for right click when you sell a player? This is the biggest bug after CM. What about semi-pro training is totally broken (sessions become unavailable). That's a few examples. I do enjoy FM, but this year, is the worst of terms of bugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Game breaking is another term that gets horribly misused if something freezes the game entirely, crashes it and there is no way to get beyond then yes it's game breaking. Otherwise it's an overhyped I don't like this so let's make it sound worse by calling it game breaking issue. You not wanting to continue doesn't equal unable to actually continue. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Cadoni said: No gamebreaking bugs? What about the broken code for right click when you sell a player? This is the biggest bug after CM. What about semi-pro training is totally broken (sessions become unavailable). That's a few examples. I do enjoy FM, but this year, is the worst of terms of bugs. 30 minutes ago, santy001 said: Game breaking is another term that gets horribly misused if something freezes the game entirely, crashes it and there is no way to get beyond then yes it's game breaking. Otherwise it's an overhyped I don't like this so let's make it sound worse by calling it game breaking issue. You not wanting to continue doesn't equal unable to actually continue. Basically the above. If you can play the game to 90%+ normality then it is not broken. To be fair, the semi-pro training is bad, and I've heard of severe issues with scheduling in Italy. There's a number of other bugs that greatly annoy me. B team players become "club icons" in France, sometimes hard Brexit doesn't fire properly in England...but they aren't gamebreaking. The basic function of the game still works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 In my opinion instead, it's "gamebreaking" when because of those annoyances the game is no longer enjoyable to someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean66683 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 it's playable, but you have to use the genpress tactic tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Ajax Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Travis Bickle said: Yes, but you have to ignore a few ME annoyances. There are no (or very unlikely to occur) gamebreaking bugs. You can sell all your players for 300 million. This glitch is not even discovered on this forum yet? It has been in the game for months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Dennis_Ajax said: You can sell all your players for 300 million. This glitch is not even discovered on this forum yet? It has been in the game for months What do you mean? I've never witnessed this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Travis Bickle said: What do you mean? I've never witnessed this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Cadoni said: Alright that's pretty bad, but it isn't gamebreaking if you don't use it. It is an exploit, a lot of games have exploits. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lvpool Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Outside the ME the game is great. The ME, however, is extremely poor...especially if you like to watch matches fully like I do. There are huge issues with 1-on-1s/easy chance conversion (too many missed) & set peices/long shots (too many scored) leading to an unbalanced watch. Below is a screenshot of the last game I've just played that illustrates the issue. I score 1x 30yd long shot & 1 normal finish in the box but miss 4 other guilt edge chances in the process, literally inexplicable misses. Charlton score a 30yd long shot. This = a v. fustrating watch & I could screenshot examples of this every 2nd or 3rd game pretty much (w/ AI scoring predominately through set peices or long shots) I win 60% of my games & am on 4 B2B promotions so overall having a successful save (& maybe you argue ME gets to the right result in the end) but the type of goals scored is shockingly unbalanced & a cr*p watch. Fine I guess if like many, you just skip through the games but poor if you want to watch the full matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Travis Bickle said: Alright that's pretty bad, but it isn't gamebreaking if you don't use it. It is an exploit, a lot of games have exploits. It's not an exploit. It's a bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Dennis_Ajax said: You can sell all your players for 300 million. This glitch is not even discovered on this forum yet? It has been in the game for months Then just do not do this. What´s so difficult? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 To be fair, OP hasn't evens aid what he considers un-playable, so this thread is a bit subjective. The transfer glitch thing, is only a glitch if the user does it themselves, so not really game breaking unless you yourself use that Semi-pro training, not seen an issue with this, other than as a semi pro club you only get 2 days of training which you'd expect being semi pro. I only watch key highlights and in 2D at that, but I've watched a couple of games at full and you can see patterns, but other than that I've not seen anything in this ME that I would consider game breaking. OP needs to be more specific on what he thinks is unplayable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Carambau said: Then just do not do this. What´s so difficult? You don't pay for broken code. If I will use it or not it's up to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lvpool Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Lvpool said: Outside the ME the game is great. The ME, however, is extremely poor...especially if you like to watch matches fully like I do. There are huge issues with 1-on-1s/easy chance conversion (too many missed) & set peices/long shots (too many scored) leading to an unbalanced watch. Below is a screenshot of the last game I've just played that illustrates the issue. I score 1x 30yd long shot & 1 normal finish in the box but miss 4 other guilt edge chances in the process, literally inexplicable misses. Charlton score a 30yd long shot. This = a v. fustrating watch & I could screenshot examples of this every 2nd or 3rd game pretty much (w/ AI scoring predominately through set peices or long shots) I win 60% of my games & am on 4 B2B promotions so overall having a successful save (& maybe you argue ME gets to the right result in the end) but the type of goals scored is shockingly unbalanced & a cr*p watch. Fine I guess if like many, you just skip through the games but poor if you want to watch the full matches 2nd game of the day below. LOOOOL, another AI set peice goal & 2 ridiculously easy chances missed for me. State of this ME...t's unbelievable. Could post these all day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 The only person who can say it's playable for the OP is the OP themselves. Since they own it, they can always fire it up 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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